Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin - Who wins?

[DrDuke]

How do you rate Chris with regards to Wallin?

Wallin is better than Arreola has ever been.

Based on what?

At least on the fact, that Wallin can box in comparison to Arreola.

[DrDuke]

How do you rate Chris with regards to Wallin?

Wallin is better than Arreola has ever been.

Ohhhh...ok. So I'm guessing you won't be watching this fight. Just commenting on the matchup.

I will, it's a habit, I watched even Charr-Lovejoy.

[DrDuke]

Based on what?

At least on the fact, that Wallin can box in comparison to Arreola.

So your not basing this on results?

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

[oogiebe]

At least on the fact, that Wallin can box in comparison to Arreola.

So your not basing this on results?

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

Funny, I was going to say the same to you on another post. I'm still ok with this fight. (can't believe you watched Lovejoy...must'eve been painful.)

[DrDuke]

So your not basing this on results?

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

[oogiebe]

The overview should include several factors, you should watch fights, not just record pages of the site.

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

[ironbeard]

Arreola has become the clubhouse slut.

[DrDuke]

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

[mickey1975]

I base my opinion on the fact I don't think Dil is very good. To put him above Ruiz is just silly. He stopped a prime AJ and then lost on points when not even training. Whyte got brutally KO'd by an inexperienced AJ... then Dil gets absolutely iced by Pov and they get him out of the hospital for the rematch.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

And a fight Whyte was losing, until the referee docked Chis 2 points. At that point, Chis looked he couldn’t be bothered and got KO’d.

By the way, I don’t like either of them.

[DrDuke]

I base my opinion on the fact I don't think Dil is very good. To put him above Ruiz is just silly. He stopped a prime AJ and then lost on points when not even training. Whyte got brutally KO'd by an inexperienced AJ... then Dil gets absolutely iced by Pov and they get him out of the hospital for the rematch.

Fair enough.

[oogiebe]

I base my opinion on the fact I don't think Dil is very good. To put him above Ruiz is just silly. He stopped a prime AJ and then lost on points when not even training. Whyte got brutally KO'd by an inexperienced AJ... then Dil gets absolutely iced by Pov and they get him out of the hospital for the rematch.

Agree with everything you posted. Never liked Dil.

[DrDuke]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

[oogiebe]

And? The fight itself was more competetive than Usyk-Chisora.

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

[DrDuke]

Apart from the bit where one of them got knocked out. Are you as forgiving when discussing the first Whyte-Povetkin?

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

And what I should? What for you bring it here?

[oogiebe]

That's it, Usyk-Chisora bout was less competetive overall, than the Whyte-Chisora bout. Moreover, it was pretty clear, that Usyk simply didn't take risks, while he's not a puncher.

And what about Whyte-Povetkin? The fight was competetive early on too, in the 3rd Whyte began to take over, but in the 5th he was already in the land of dreams.

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

Walcott was the moral victor.

LOL! He didn't get my point...again. He's all over the place.

[DrDuke]

Wondering what you make of Walcott/Marciano.

Walcott was the moral victor.

LOL! He didn't get my point...again. He's all over the place.

Maybe there was just no point?

[oogiebe]

LOL! He didn't get my point...again. He's all over the place.

Maybe there was just no point?

Trust me, there was a point and, well, you missed it.

He always does. Or perhaps he conveniantly does.

[DrDuke]

Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

[oogiebe]

Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

Another great argument.

[DrDuke]

Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

Another great argument.

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

[oogiebe]

Lol, you two look like a pretty sweet couple.

Another great argument.

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

I asked you before about Walcott/Marciano (based on your own posts regarding a said fighter winning by ko after being behind) and you've resorted to childish responses. Care to take it on? or are we done here?

[DrDuke]

Another great argument.

As you say, dear God of Arguments.

I asked you before about Walcott/Marciano (based on your own posts regarding a said fighter winning by ko after being behind) and you've resorted to childish responses. Care to take it on? or are we done here?

I hinted to the irrelevance of that example, but you didn't try to prove me wrong, you instead resorted to childish responses and passionately fornicated with your new friend.

[Cyclops]

I do watch fights including Whyte's against better heavyweight opponents than Usyk and Joyce have fought.

Let's look at the facts.

Whyte has beaten Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Helenius (then with one loss), Browne (then unbeaten) and Povetkin
Usyk has beaten Chisora.

Which of them is more 'deserving'(your word, not mine)?

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

Done you there, mate

To be fair, trying to sell Robert Helenius, Lucas Browne and COVID-ridden geriatric Povetkin, who was almost knocked out by a draft on his way to the ring, as part of some sort of murderer's row Dillian's battled through to get to his position is as disingenuous as leaving Wach off the list (who would have beaten Browne at the very least, and held his own with the others). Parker is his best win, Chisora is his 2nd (because Chisora should also hold a win over Parker, a fresh unbeaten hyped up Helenius and Whyte himself) and Rivas his third. They're good wins.

His chin does look a bit iffy though these days, doesn't it? And there''s nothing wrong with Arreola's mandible. He also seems to have a bit of a dig on him still, considering how he decked everybody's favourite blob, Fat Andy Ruiz and had him in considerably more trouble than Joshua ever did. Arreola might just turn out to be a Povetkin-esque banana skin for Dillian.

By the way, Hearn will 'stack' the undercard with Katie Taylor, Lawrence Okolie and Joshua Buatsi against some people that you've never heard of, and it'll be PPV.

[oogiebe]

Browne was pure sh!t. The Povetkin win was worthless at this stage, cause he is a 40 year old guy with the post-covid syndrome. And we saw, how it ended, when he was just an old guy. It was an easier matchup than Wach, whom you didn't mention, because you probably admit, how "good" Wach is. Yes, Whyte was in a good position two years ago, but he blew it. Usyk is better recently alone with the Chisora win, which was more confident than any of Whyte's wins over Chisora, of course, if you're sound enough not to follow the biased analysis of Matchroom.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Whyte KO Chis?

Done you there, mate

To be fair, trying to sell Robert Helenius, Lucas Browne and COVID-ridden geriatric Povetkin, who was almost knocked out by a draft on his way to the ring, as part of some sort of murderer's row Dillian's battled through to get to his position is as disingenuous as leaving Wach off the list (who would have beaten Browne at the very least, and held his own with the others). Parker is his best win, Chisora is his 2nd (because Chisora should also hold a win over Parker, a fresh unbeaten hyped up Helenius and Whyte himself) and Rivas his third. They're good wins.

His chin does look a bit iffy though these days, doesn't it? And there''s nothing wrong with Arreola's mandible. He also seems to have a bit of a dig on him still, considering how he decked everybody's favourite blob, Fat Andy Ruiz and had him in considerably more trouble than Joshua ever did. Arreola might just turn out to be a Povetkin-esque banana skin for Dillian.

By the way, Hearn will 'stack' the undercard with Katie Taylor, Lawrence Okolie and Joshua Buatsi against some people that you've never heard of, and it'll be PPV.

Clearly marching out Helenius/brown and dead man walking Pov is as lame as it gets. But Whyte KO'd Chis in a close fight. not sure Usyk was more impressive than whyte in beating Chisora as Duke says. Nor can someone say that Usyk could've Ko'd Chis but didn't try to. None of us know what goes on in the mind of someone else.

Anyway, I agree that Hearn will do his 'stacking' for the undercard. We'll see that guy "TBA" until a week before the fights.