so is he now scotlands greatest

[SticknMove]

Josh is the most successful.

If he can stay at the weight comfortably then let the elite below step up.

[Steveh583]

He hasn't even fought at elite level yet let alone won against an elite level opponent. He's still got time to do it but to say he his currently the greatest ever Scot is pushing it just now, it wasn't exactly a classic division he's cleaned out , prograis turned out to be well overrated , barancky was shown to be nothing more than a fairly decent level come forward brawler that suffered a hell of a ko defeat last year, and Ramirez was nothing more than a standard wbo type champion.

Hasn't he just beaten the two top guys in the division and is now clearly #1 in his division?

Yes but prograis has turned out to be completely overrated and Ramirez is just an bang average wbo type world level fighter, he hasn't got any wins against elite opposition like Buchanan and lynch have. Also it's not a great division he has cleared out and every top guy in it that he has beaten have been very close fights that could of went either way.

personal bias

[Steveh583]

I had to check Prograis record to see what had happened for him to now be deemed overrated...none the wiser

yeah bizarre comment. itseems when a classy fighter loses to an evenly matched opponent they are then overrated

[margaret thatcher]

there's no way the ramirez fight could've gone either way either, the judges were generous to ramirez as it was and they still had it for jt

[Counter-puncher]

there's no way the ramirez fight could've gone either way either, the judges were generous to ramirez as it was and they still had it for jt

Indeed, i've seen it said that after 4 rounds it looked like Taylor might be in trouble, I didn't see that

[Counter-puncher]

I had to check Prograis record to see what had happened for him to now be deemed overrated...none the wiser

yeah bizarre comment. itseems when a classy fighter loses to an evenly matched opponent they are then overrated

'loses' with a judge giving him 6 rounds and you can't say that judge was generous (IMO)

[mickey1975]

Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Even down here in England I've never understood why boxers from 2 team cities clearly align themselves to one team. Where I'm from we have Dalton Smith coming through but a lot of my mates don't like him for the fact he comes out wearing Sheffield Wednesday stuff.

Because it probably sells tickets at first. As you move through the ranks it's a hindrance. Hatton and Bellew are staunch supporters but never alienated the other team.

[coghaugen11]

Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Sounds like a lovely chap.

He won’t be around long.

[My Name Is Earl]

Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Cheers. I know he split the city. I think he's had issues with Edinburgh Castle also, with them not being too
upbeat about hosting him.

Must be a bastard for Nicola not to be able to jump on his bandwagon, given his past indiscretions. Your new laws
would have in the big house nowadays.

[My Name Is Earl]

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Even down here in England I've never understood why boxers from 2 team cities clearly align themselves to one team. Where I'm from we have Dalton Smith coming through but a lot of my mates don't like him for the fact he comes out wearing Sheffield Wednesday stuff.

Because it probably sells tickets at first. As you move through the ranks it's a hindrance. Hatton and Bellew are staunch supporters but never alienated the other team.

It'd be interesting to see if Hatton would have been so popular if a United fan. City were shit, so i reckon people
around the country appreciated he wasn't a glory-hunter. I only know a couple of Utd fans who loved boxing
but didn't embrace the Rickster. Mind you, they wouldn't even entertain any gigs at City's ground.

Does Warrington have plenty of Yorkshire fans despite the Leeds 'thing'?

[mickey1975]

Most of Yorkshire are Leeds fans, even with pro teams of their own.

[mickey1975]

Ricky was very clever in saying he was fighting for the whole of Manchester. Crolla is a huge Man Utd fan and they really got behind him in the end.

[coghaugen11]

Most of Yorkshire are Leeds fans, even with pro teams of their own.

No they’re not.

[coghaugen11]

Both Sheffield clubs have fan bases as big or bigger. Dimlow.

[mickey1975]

Both Sheffield clubs have fan bases as big or bigger. Dimlow.

You're obviously not very clued up. Wednesday have good support from their own people. Not across Yorkshire. Have a look at attendances. Donny Whites, Bradford White, Hull Whites, Barnsley Whites, nearly everywhere up here has a 'Whites'.

[coghaugen11]

I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

[coghaugen11]

What’s Danny Wilson doing now? He was a really good manager. Rumour was he was taking the Doncaster job.

[mickey1975]

I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

[My Name Is Earl]

What’s Danny Wilson doing now? He was a really good manager. Rumour was he was taking the Doncaster job.

'Mary's Prayer' was a cracking tune.

Wilson did a great job with Barnsley back in the day.

[My Name Is Earl]

I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

Yeah, that's where the "in your cup final" chant was based on.

The 'bigger' teams are more blase about it now.

[banjo]

Hard to judge him properly just yet but no, he isn't Scotlands greatest IMO.

[coghaugen11]

I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

Wednesday could’ve filled it twice over. An all-Sheffield cup final you’re looking at four times over.

[coghaugen11]

I saw Chris Waddle in Jamie Reeves’ gym near Bramall Lane.

[mickey1975]

Both Sheffield clubs have fan bases as big or bigger. Dimlow.

You're obviously not very clued up. Wednesday have good support from their own people. Not across Yorkshire. Have a look at attendances. Donny Whites, Bradford White, Hull Whites, Barnsley Whites, nearly everywhere up here has a 'Whites'.

Wednesday have big support in South Yorks and North Notts.

I'm sure they do.

[Counter-puncher]

I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

Wolves (4th division at that point) and Burnley did 80,000 for the sherpa van trophy final 1989. sold out really quickly too.