What's next for Eleider Alvarez?

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Eleider Alvarez's Trainer Believes Time Has Come To Retire

Eleider Alvarez and his coach made a pact together.

When he would suffer his next defeat, it was understood that the boxer had to hang up his gloves in order to leave his sport in good health.

This is the scenario that will occur after the painful loss against Joe Smith, which took place on Saturday night at the MGM Grand's Conference Center in Las Vegas.

Alvarez (25-2, 13 KOs) was uncompetitive against Smith (25-3, 21 KOs), who landed numerous damaging punches until he scored a knockout victory in the ninth round. Alvarez suffered a broken nose during the fight.

Alvarez's head trainer, Marc Ramsay, had already noticed a decline in his boxer's abilities when his fighter was preparing for the rematch with Sergey Kovalev - a fight where Kovalev outboxed Alvarez over twelve rounds.

"We thought we were going to do one last lap together and that we were going to make sure it was fun," Ramsay told Mathieu Boulay of The Montreal Journal.

“We were going to keep moving forward as long as it made sense. Against Smith Jr, this is the first time that we saw that we were really not in the game. I want us to stop this. We must not forget that there is life after boxing.

"We had difficulties during this camp [for the Kovalev rematch]. We continued to have them thereafter. I watch him in the gym. Eleider isn't the same guy anymore. I've been seeing it for a while. The legs are not there as before. His metabolism slowed down. He just isn't able to keep up and neither is his body.

“His metabolism is not what it used to be. The rounds in sparring are getting more and more complicated, regardless of the partners he has in front of him. We knew that the end was drawing near with him."

Several observers will try to find the precise reasons for the one-sided loss against Smith. Among the points that will be raised, there will be the training camp which was held in Quebec with the COVID-19 restrictions. However, Ramsay quickly dismissed this argument.

"It has nothing to do with it," said Ramsay. "We did what we had to do in the gym to be ready for this fight. It's not a question of tactics or preparation. Eleider is simply at the end. In boxing, this is obvious more than it is in other sports. You can't hide on a fourth line like in hockey.

“We were not in the game from the first round. Still, I hoped that Eleider could change the pace of the fight with a power shot. I could see Smith was burning gas and I was still hoping it might work.

“As the rounds went by, Eleider's defense was declining as well. After the eighth round, I warned him that it was his last round for him to do something. However, I wanted a good defense and a bomb. I didn't want him to take bad shots like he had in previous rounds."

[DrDuke]

Suffering 2 losses with the last of them by KO in last three fights isn't good for a 36 y.o. boxer. And he was outclassed in both these losses. It looks like a top level is already too much for him. So, retirement sounds reasonable.

[gregregegg]

Should retire i think (if he has the money).. Looked gunshy last fight and got KO'd.
That being said, If he dosent have the money and his alternate is laying brick in Columbia for a buck an hour, Then probs Keep having a crack, still a few decent fights left for him, i just dont think he will win title anytime coming.

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That being said, If he dosent have the money and his alternate is laying brick in Columbia for a buck an hour, Then probs Keep having a crack, still a few decent fights left for him, i just dont think he will win title anytime coming.

After he beat Kov, he got a new Top Rank contract, worth $1m per fight, and if he lost the belt, it would go down to a min $200k per fight..

So i'm guessing the Kov rematch he got $1m..

Then min $200k for the Seals fight??

Must have gotten a min $200k for Joe Smith too. I think ti was around $400k

[lazboy]

That being said, If he dosent have the money and his alternate is laying brick in Columbia for a buck an hour, Then probs Keep having a crack, still a few decent fights left for him, i just dont think he will win title anytime coming.

After he beat Kov, he got a new Top Rank contract, worth $1m per fight, and if he lost the belt, it would go down to a min $200k per fight..

So i'm guessing the Kov rematch he got $1m..

Then min $200k for the Seals fight??

Must have gotten a min $200k for Joe Smith too. I think ti was around $400k

Heard the commentators say if Alvarez won the Kovalev rematch, he would have been offered a lucrative, possibly multi million dollar deal with Top Rank... In hindsight, if that happened, it would be equivalent to Dazn signing Jesse Vargas.... lol. Avoided that one Bob.

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Promoter Wants Eleider Alvarez To Think Over Career Before Retirement Decision

Yvon Michel, promoter for former WBO light heavyweight champion Eleider Alvarez (25-2), does not want the boxer to make a hasty decision regarding the rest of his career.

On Saturday night, Alvarez suffered only the second defeat of his career when he was knocked out in nine rounds by Joe Smith (26-3, 21 KOs) in a WBO eliminator.

In the days that followed, Alvarez explained that he was planning to retire from the sport.

Alvarez's trainer, Marc Ramsay, agreed with his boxer - stating that he was no longer the same fighter in training camp and his legs were dmininshed.

However, Michel believes his fighter should give it at least two weeks for the dust to settle - and then decide his future.

"It's never good to make decisions on the fly," said Michel in an interview with RDS. "Everyone thought [Sergey] Kovalev had to retire after his loss to Eleider, and yet in his next two fights he made more money than in his entire career. But hey, we obviously have to see what he wants to do.

“At the same time, I understand Marc's reaction. He told me that he saw the imprint of time on Eleider and that it was more and more difficult in training. If Eleider doesn't have the taste for more and Marc thinks it's not a good idea, I won't go to bat to find him fights. But if everyone comes back enthusiastically, then I'll do what I have to do.

“A guy like Eleider is always going to get offers. Take [Dillian] Whyte, he lost and there's already talk of a rematch. But is he going to want to face young people like [Joshua] Buatsi or [Edgar] Berlanga, given that this is what awaits him."

At the same time, Michel believes the style of Joe Smith would always present a big problem for Alvarez.

“The result of a fight is often a question of styles," Michel said. "I think Smith's style is always going to annoy Eleider. When he has a slightly less intense guy in front of him and the fight turns into a game of chess, Eleider will perform significantly better.

“When you fight against an opponent of Smith's caliber, you have to be on your legs to make him miss the mark and take him on a counterattack or even be able to hurt him. Eleider didn't have the legs and he couldn't hurt him. Basically, he never found his rhythm.

"Having said that, I'm not the one in the gym taking the hits. It is very important to come out of a healthy career and that is why it is essential to have determination and enthusiasm in training to never cut corners. A guy like Jean Pascal was precisely able to redefine himself after a slump."

[Evander]

Looked shaky when Kovalev won the rematch.

[lazboy]

To be fair to Alvarez, he has a terrible trainer (Lemieux’s trainer).

[Cent0089]

He can still earn some bucks in boxing. Everybody write off Jean Pascal and he can still fight decently

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Eleider Alvarez Training With Pedro Diaz, Breaks From Marc Ramsay

“It was Eleider who did all the legwork [to set this up]. We wanted it to be like that,” said Yvon Michel to Mathieu Boulay of the Journal de Montréal.

“We support him in his decision to go there and he had his first training (last Tuesday).

“At the Mondo Gym, he will find himself in a gymnasium where he will be surrounded by Latino boxers. [His trainer] will speak Spanish around him. "

“Eleider and Pedro will report to me weekly. I trust what Pedro will tell me. He was never a compromised coach. If Eleider is dragging his feet, he'll find out pretty quickly," Michel said.

“If he manages to convince us, he could have a fight, but we're not there yet. If he achieves that goal, it will be a fitness fight. No question of sending him against another boxer who is ranked worldwide. "

“There were two things that bothered me more,” said Ramsay. "The first is his weight between fights. I wanted him to stay around 200 lbs. The last time we met he was 225 lbs.

“Then I wanted him to prepare a post-career project. He still hasn't planned anything yet."

[KiwiRider]

Smith is a solid second tier guy. You know exactly what he brings, and exactly where someone is at after a fight with him.
That fight said it all for Alvarez as far as career projection.
I'm sure he can make a bit from the right match ups, and put some bums on seats at the right venues.