Manny Pacquiao vs. Errol Spence - August 21, 2021 (OFF)

[emallini]

Wonder how this fight will sell. I for one can't watch it since there will be no triumph in it. If Spence wins then yay he beat up an ancient former flyweight champion. If Pac wins then yay, he will have whooped someone will have to be regarded as retarded after that for failing to get a win with everything on his side.

To think that promoters are spending a fortune on this nonsense. Won't this fight just sell like any other Pac fight? Doubt Spence is bringing that many fans to the screens.

Can't you just enjoy the fight? Instead of caring so much what people will say after.

Enjoy the fight. That's the problem, either you'll be watching a jr middleweight beat up on an ancient former flyweight champion or watching an affc beating some retard. I'd rather not watch such garbage.

Might be a good fight

[gilgamesh]

Porter has not been considered the B side of hardly any fight he’s been in so your point is pale. Tonight was yet another illustration of the reluctancy to call fouls inside the ring to these blue chip fighters. Haney egregiously held Linares since the end of round 10. Literally running at Linares arms out to initiate a hug for two rounds, not even attempting any offensive assault and what we got was not only fake warnings by the ref but he actually takes a point from Linares for hitting behind the head which, by the way was a result of excessive holding by a Haney who was clearly on geek street since the end of round 10. This is what makes Boxing a joke and it’s become so common now how crooked this F’ng sport has always been that no one even complains about it anymore. Even horrible decisions now are laughed off and blamed on “hey, it’s boxing. Watcha gonna do lol”

At some point, this shiit just gets rediculous to the avid fan that just can’t stand another instance of unfairness inside the ring especially when no other sport demands as much from these warriors literally playing a game where their life is on the line.

He's been the B side in every single major fight he's ever been involved in with the exception of maybe Danny Garcia.

He was the B side against Thurman, he was the B Side against Spence.

Porter was WBC Champ and Spence Jr was IBF Champ so what are you talking about. Which belt would rather have? You’re wrong again.

Doesn't matter who had which belt. Spence was the A side. Everyone knew he was gonna win.

And frankly I'd rather have the IBF belt. I hate the WBC, and don't respect that organization in the slightest at this point.

[gilgamesh]

Wonder how this fight will sell. I for one can't watch it since there will be no triumph in it. If Spence wins then yay he beat up an ancient former flyweight champion. If Pac wins then yay, he will have whooped someone will have to be regarded as retarded after that for failing to get a win with everything on his side.

To think that promoters are spending a fortune on this nonsense. Won't this fight just sell like any other Pac fight? Doubt Spence is bringing that many fans to the screens.

It'll sell just fine. It probably will raise Spence's name recognition, considering Pac was still good enough to beat a top guy his last bout out I don't think it'll be seen as a meaningless win for Spence.

Especially if Pac makes it competitive, which I suspect he will.

[Bandog]

wtf us up with the trolling?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Spence Promises To "KO Pacquiao Into Retirement," Fight To Have VADA Testing, No Rematch Clause

Like many of Manny Pacquiao’s previous opponents, Errol Spence Jr. is promising to make his upcoming Aug. 21 showdown against the Filipino fighter the swan song of the future Hall of Fame fighter’s legendary career.

“I’m preparing my body to get into training camp mode and do the best that I can, to get into the best shape that I can, and be as strong as I can, to knock out Manny Pacquiao and send him off into retirement,” Spence told Barbershop Conversations.

The WBC and IBF welterweight champion Spence (27-0, 21 KOS) also shared that the Pacquiao (62-7-2, 39 KOs) fight will have VADA testing, and there is no rematch clause in the contract.

“I think he’s going off to become president of the Philippines, or something like that,” Spence said, perhaps hinting at the 42-year-old Pacquiao’s plans for what’s in store after the summer showdown.

“I expect the same Manny Pacquiao that we get every time. He’ll come to fight, and I’ll definitely come to fight. I’ll be a lot stronger and physically better than my previous fight, [a unanimous decision win over Danny Garcia in December]. If [Pacquiao is] looking at [the tape of the Garcia fight], he should be looking at the Chris Algieri, Lamont Peterson and the Kell Brook fight. If he's looking at the last fight looking for weakness, he's going to be in trouble.”

The 31-year-old southpaw Spence said he was preparing for a fight with Yordenis Ugas, but Pacquiao took precedence once it was proven a deal could get done with the senator.

"Ugas was in play. If I didn’t get the Pacquiao fight, I was going to fight Ugas for the WBA [welterweight title]. Now that I got the Pacquiao fight, [the Ugas fight is] on the backburner,” said Spence.

Pacquiao has not fought since beating Keith Thuman via split decision on July 20, 2019.

During the pandemic, boxing’s only eight-division champion was linked to potential fights with the likes of Mikey Garcia, Ryan Garcia, Conor McGregor and Terence Crawford.

Ultimately, it was Spence who won the prize to fight Pacquiao on FOX Sports pay-per-view in a still-to-be-announced location in Las Vegas.

[ironbeard]

Still hard for me to figure out the logic Team Pac utilized to decide on choosing to fight Spence at this time. I appreciate the courage factor, but I question the business and (most importantly) the health considerations.

Unless he can somehow clip Spence early like he did Thurman, slowing down his onslaught, this could be a brutal beat down that will hurt Manny’s quality of life going forward.

[adislav123]

Still hard for me to figure out the logic Team Pac utilized to decide on choosing to fight Spence at this time. I appreciate the courage factor, but I question the business and (most importantly) the health considerations.

Unless he can somehow clip Spence early like he did Thurman, slowing down his onslaught, this could be a brutal beat down that will hurt Manny’s quality of life going forward.

is spence some monstrous slugger with an inhumane output of brutalzing punches?

who ever delivered a beat down on manny?

he's still after the belts and wants to fight the best to test himself to see if, which no doubt he does, still got it?

he's experienced, smart and knows his body well enough to hang em' up the moment he'll feel in sparring age finally catching up, knowing he can't compete with the top guys anymore.

i favour spence in super close, non stop back and forth action fight.

spence has to bring his a game cause manny definitely will.

[ironbeard]

Still hard for me to figure out the logic Team Pac utilized to decide on choosing to fight Spence at this time. I appreciate the courage factor, but I question the business and (most importantly) the health considerations.

Unless he can somehow clip Spence early like he did Thurman, slowing down his onslaught, this could be a brutal beat down that will hurt Manny’s quality of life going forward.

is spence some monstrous slugger with an inhumane output of brutalzing punches?

who ever delivered a beat down on manny?

he's still after the belts and wants to fight the best to test himself to see if, which no doubt he does, still got it?

he's experienced, smart and knows his body well enough to hang em' up the moment he'll feel in sparring age finally catching up, knowing he can't compete with the top guys anymore.

i favour spence in super close, non stop back and forth action fight.

spence has to bring his a game cause manny definitely will.

I hear you. Manny is absolutely a freak of nature. But, this is a bridge too far, IMO.

Manny will not have fought in two years. He has never gone that long between fights, let alone in his 40s. Manny and his team cannot be sure how much he may have lost since Thurman, and he squeaked by on the early KD in that one. Thurman is no Spence, IMO.

Again, I respect the courage, gifts, skills, and legacy of Pacman. I hope that he still has enough to avoid a severe, protracted beat down.

The wild card is whether Spence will be back to his pre-wreck level. He did not appear as high volume nor power levels v Danny.

[Bandog]

I give huge credit for Manny taking this fight. (Floyd never would have) Certainly the first half of the fight could be competitive, but Spence will break him down and either stop him or Manny's corner stops it. Manny will have his moments because he is so awkward and experienced.
If anyone remembers Manny getting severely hurt to the body, I think it was the Margarito fight? Spence will beat Manny up if he wants, or outbox him to an easy decision, and it will probably be his last fight. TKO 9 or 10

[Evander]

Gotta think Errol Spence would beat Manny Pacquiao at this point in their careers.
However, I'm the same guy who thought Keith Thurman would beat Manny Pacquiao so what do I know
See the odds on Spence to win have come down from -500 to -334, interesting.

[gbh32001]

I will bet my house, barring injury for both Pacman will TKO Spence if he opt for aggression, I will give him close or split decision if he opt to box. This is Hopkins VS Pavlik 2 in the making

[gregregegg]

I will bet my house, barring injury for both Pacman will TKO Spence if he opt for aggression, I will give him close or split decision if he opt to box. This is Hopkins VS Pavlik 2 in the making

how nice is ya house? i could be talked into taking that action...

[margaret thatcher]

manny has 1 stoppage win in the last 11 years bruh

[IKSRTFO]

manny has 1 stoppage win in the last 11 years bruh

To be fair, out of the guys he hadn't stopped in those 11 years, none of them had been stopped before he fought them. Only Margarito, Horn, Rios, and Algeri were stopped afterwards.

[Bandog]

I will bet my house, barring injury for both Pacman will TKO Spence if he opt for aggression, I will give him close or split decision if he opt to box. This is Hopkins VS Pavlik 2 in the making

Spence will beat Pac into retirement. I'm not sure how or why Pac is fighting Spence, but I guarantee he will probably regret it. I know Spence was about 75-80% in the Garcia fight after the accident and long layoff, but this is a bad, bad, decision by team Pac. No lose situation maybe, but stupid.

[thereverend]

I think Spence will fight carefully and win a decision. I don't think it'll be a lopsided fight. Pac is still formidable. The last time Pac was KO'd was the Marquez fight, I think it's unlikely but a possibility.

[Bandog]

I think Spence will fight carefully and win a decision. I don't think it'll be a lopsided fight. Pac is still formidable. The last time Pac was KO'd was the Marquez fight, I think it's unlikely but a possibility.

I hope that all that are predicting a Pac win or even a close fight come back on here and give credit to Spence IF he wins clearly, instead of denigrating his win by saying Pac was old, excuses, excuses. If I am wrong, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. I just don't see any way Pacquiao can win. To me it is only a 1% chance Pac will win.

[Enlightened-One]

I think Spence will fight carefully and win a decision. I don't think it'll be a lopsided fight. Pac is still formidable. The last time Pac was KO'd was the Marquez fight, I think it's unlikely but a possibility.

I hope that all that are predicting a Pac win or even a close fight come back on here and give credit to Spence IF he wins clearly, instead of denigrating his win by saying Pac was old, excuses, excuses. If I am wrong, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. I just don't see any way Pacquiao can win. To me it is only a 1% chance Pac will win.

The 42½ year old Pacquiao is old.

You've already "denigrated" Pacquiao, because you only give him a 1% chance of scoring an upset, which means you deem Manny's bout against Errol Spence Jr. as being a mismatch.

By the time he steps foot inside the ring against Spence Jr., Pacquiao would have only engaged in one bout within a 31-month period.

Manny’s victory over Keith Thurman is the only notable (legit) welterweight opponent he’s beaten within the last 65 months (since the third bout against Timothy Bradley).

Those are the numbers.

[margaret thatcher]

I think Spence will fight carefully and win a decision. I don't think it'll be a lopsided fight. Pac is still formidable. The last time Pac was KO'd was the Marquez fight, I think it's unlikely but a possibility.

I hope that all that are predicting a Pac win or even a close fight come back on here and give credit to Spence IF he wins clearly, instead of denigrating his win by saying Pac was old, excuses, excuses. If I am wrong, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. I just don't see any way Pacquiao can win. To me it is only a 1% chance Pac will win.

what if they say spence loaded his gloves and used peds in the past, do those excuses count, you sure have no problem using them yourself for other fighters

btw, pac is old bruh, he should get whooped here, you think he has 1 percent chance because its a mismatch, pl

[Bandog]

I think Spence will fight carefully and win a decision. I don't think it'll be a lopsided fight. Pac is still formidable. The last time Pac was KO'd was the Marquez fight, I think it's unlikely but a possibility.

I hope that all that are predicting a Pac win or even a close fight come back on here and give credit to Spence IF he wins clearly, instead of denigrating his win by saying Pac was old, excuses, excuses. If I am wrong, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. I just don't see any way Pacquiao can win. To me it is only a 1% chance Pac will win.

what if they say spence loaded his gloves and used peds in the past, do those excuses count, you sure have no problem using them yourself for other fighters

btw, pac is old bruh, he should get whooped here, you think he has 1 percent chance because its a mismatch, pl

Pac is old, Pac is short, Boo hoo. Get your excuses ready dumb ass.

[margaret thatcher]

I hope that all that are predicting a Pac win or even a close fight come back on here and give credit to Spence IF he wins clearly, instead of denigrating his win by saying Pac was old, excuses, excuses. If I am wrong, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. I just don't see any way Pacquiao can win. To me it is only a 1% chance Pac will win.

what if they say spence loaded his gloves and used peds in the past, do those excuses count, you sure have no problem using them yourself for other fighters

btw, pac is old bruh, he should get whooped here, you think he has 1 percent chance because its a mismatch, pl

Pac is old, Pac is short, Boo hoo. Get your excuses ready dumb ass.

lol why would i have excuses like that, errol is simply the better fighter at this point. 42 is the new 24 actually, manny actually has the age advantage doesnt he

speaking of excuses, how about the amazingly brilliant 'no excuses,...........but loaded gloves and peds doe!!'

classic

[532740]

Manny Pacquiao announces Errol Spence Jr. Fight on Aug. 21 in Las Vegas with a promo poster on social media.

https://www.correlsense.com/pacquiao-vs ... ve-stream/

Pacquiao (42y.o) lost his throne without fighting as the World Boxing Association (WBA) decided to strip the senator's super welterweight title due to inactivity on January 29, 2021, while Errol Spence Jr. (31y.o) is currently a unified welterweight world champion, having held the IBF title since 2017 and the WBC title since 2019.

[BigGar]

I worry for Pacquiao in this one. Cannot see how he can win unless Spence has lost a lot since the accident.

I so wish it was the Pacquiao that fought Cotto…..

[margaret thatcher]

Manny Pacquiao announces Errol Spence Jr. Fight on Aug. 21 in Las Vegas with a promo poster on social media.

https://www.correlsense.com/pacquiao-vs ... ve-stream/

Pacquiao (42y.o) lost his throne without fighting as the World Boxing Association (WBA) decided to strip the senator's super welterweight title due to inactivity on January 29, 2021, while Errol Spence Jr. (31y.o) is currently a unified welterweight world champion, having held the IBF title since 2017 and the WBC title since 2019.

how dare you mention that manny is 42!

[532712]

Manny is still bringing it. Hope he wins but think Spence will prove too youthful.