Billy Joe Saunders reveals he’s contemplating retirement

What shoudl he do?

Poll ended at 10 Jul 2021, 09:28

Retire
19
31%
Carry on
9
15%
Don't care...
27
44%
Clearly he just wanted to cash out big..
6
10%
 
Total votes: 61

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Billy Joe Saunders reveals he’s contemplating retirement

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Billy Joe Saunders reveals he’s contemplating retirement

Billy Joe Saunders has told talkSPORT he is considering retiring from boxing following his defeat to Canelo Alvarez last month.

In the aftermath, Billy Joe posted one brief social media statement, but has now given his first full interview to White and Jordan on talkSPORT.

Explaining what he’s been doing since the loss, Saunders began: “I’m just coming down from it all, having a good, long think and enjoying the kids time really.

“I went into surgery, I had a broken eye socket, it was broken in three places.

“I’ve got some plates, I’m like Terminator now, they’ve got me full of metal…

“As soon as I got home I just took time out for family and enjoyed the time off without any boxing. It’s been nice.”


Reflecting on the fight itself, he continued: “I’ve had a load of people say, ‘You were doing well, we had you one up, we had you level, we had you one down or whatever.’

“But he’s a world class fighter and he caught me with a world class shot, so you’ve gotta give the man that credit and respect.

“I’ve been in these situations and done it to opponents before and I’ve took plenty of credit for it, so you’ve gotta give it back to him for it.

“He’s a very, very good fighter. He’s a very good fighter, very tricky.

“When I got in the ring with him I thought, ‘Is this it?’ I expected more, but I suppose everybody’s gonna be like that going into that sort of fight.”


Midway through round eight the contest changed in an instant.

Saunders stooped low, but Canelo anticipated his movement and countered with a perfect right uppercut.

The 31-year-old recalled: “When I got hit, I got hit with the shot and I remember it very, very clearly.

“I thought, ‘Ooh, that’s a good shot, that’s a good shot.’ And I started bouncing about, but my eye had dropped down.

“I could see like two or three all the time and I realised after 30 seconds it wasn’t my legs, it was my eye.

“It’s a bad injury, an injury I thought I’d never get, but you never know what’s gonna happen in boxing.”


When the end came after round eight, TV cameras showed Saunders shaking his head in his corner and speaking to assistant Ben Davison before trainer Mark Tibbs waved off the contest.

This led to many suggesting he quit – a claim he insists is not accurate.

Saunders responded: “As a fighter, I wanted to go on. I sat down and I could hear Ben [Davison] telling me in the corner it was over before I even sat down.

“I was shaking my head to say, ‘No way.’

“It was the right stoppage, I can’t argue, I know my best interests was at hand.

“Obviously it’s gutting and no-one wants to lose, it is gut-wrenching, but this is sport and it’s boxing.

“You can only ever say that the better man won on the night. That’s it.

“I would’ve loved to see how the next four or five rounds were because I put so much heart and effort into it.

“That’s sport.”


In reply to those criticising him over the bout’s conclusion, he added: “You’re always gonna have your people who come and have their two pence worth.

“But my team who’s in that corner know the conversation. I was going out for the ninth round orthodox and when people say, ‘He quit,’ you’ve gotta look at the situation.

“My team are there to do a job, they’re there to look after my best interests.

“I’m there to go on all night. When we step in that ring, that’s our lives and I’m willing to put down the life.

“But never in my life would I ever say, ‘Nah, I’m finished, I’m done.’

“I boxed a minute and 20 seconds with a broken eye socket, a broken cheekbone in three places.

“A minute and 20 seconds is alright fighting the average man, but when you’re fighting the best man on the planet, I could’ve easily opted out but I never.

“That was the cornerman’s decision. It is what it is, I can’t argue with that.”


Regarding whether he might now retire, Saunders concluded: “At the end of the day, I’m 31 years old, if I don’t ever wanna work again, wanna sit back, wanna chill, I can do that.

“And so it should be, I’ve put a lot of time into boxing and I’ve paid my dues. The sport’s been very, very good to me…

“I’m 31, I haven’t took no punishment, I haven’t been battered from pillar to post, brain dead and can’t put a sentence together, so I need to sit back and look at my options.

“Because the options have to weigh up – the thought of me just coming in and fighting for a world rating or something, belts don’t feed the kids.

“Everything would have to stack up and [be] the right fight.

“Because coming down from fights like that, it’s very hard, where do you go from there?

“I’ll have a chat with my dad because he’ll have a big say in it.

“To be fair it will be more or less down to my dad in the conversation more than me if I’m honest.

“It’s one of them where it’s 50/50. Whether I think, I will have one more or a couple more, but they’ve gotta be the right sort of fights.

“If he says, ‘Leave it son, don’t go back for more,’ then that’s probably what I’ll do.”
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Don’t care.
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Post by ironbeard »

Great stuff! It all makes sense to me. BJS may have appeared in public as an utter prick over the years, but everything he says in this interview adds up.

If he were my son, I would make the case for retirement. He is set for life. What does he have to prove? He has a family that his health is more important to than a few more million $$$ and an enhanced legacy.
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Probably he'll retire.

There are some big money at the high level. Through a couple of recent decades there has been a tendency of being tracked safe to a big fight and then disappearing.

If he doesn't find any options outside of sports, he'll probably come back one day.

As a boxing fan I'd chose to see him against the current top SMW or LHW competitors.
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“You’ve never seen heart like this… you’ve never seen heart like it” - Billy Joe Saunders; May 2021.
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I think regardless of the injury, he'd still be saying these same things,

He's kinda using the injury, to steer towards retirement, as in, I don't need to take damage, or beatings.
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Dioufy wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:00 “You’ve never seen heart like this… you’ve never seen heart like it” - Billy Joe Saunders; May 2021.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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He’s had an excellent career in that he’s still got his marbles and made a lot of cash. He should retire if he feels he’s happy with that. What a punch that was that caught him. Devastating injury.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 09:28
Billy Joe Saunders has told talkSPORT he is considering retiring from boxing
Good, as the only three fights I want to see him in are against

Canelo
Wilder
A Polar Bear

:zzz:
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Fray Bentos wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 09:28
Billy Joe Saunders has told talkSPORT he is considering retiring from boxing
Good, as the only three fights I want to see him in are against

Canelo
Wilder
A Polar Bear

:zzz:
Class.
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Re: Billy Joe Saunders reveals he’s contemplating retirement

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I think injury permitting he could be tempted to rematch Jr. I don’t think any other fight would pay well enough to get him back in the ring.
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Only 2 fights I’d still like to see him have. Golovkin and Eubank Jr. If they don’t happen then he should retire as the risk/reward isn’t there.
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Retire.
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Post by polecateddy »

Undoubtedly originally had some world class potential at middleweight, but clearly his enthusiasm waned and in all likelihood only went to super-middle because he couldn’t maintain a professional diet. I think he’ll be almost entirely forgotten.
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Fray Bentos wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 09:28
Billy Joe Saunders has told talkSPORT he is considering retiring from boxing
Good, as the only three fights I want to see him in are against

Canelo
Wilder
A Polar Bear

:zzz:
...and the Hadron Collider :lol:
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Hes got loads of property and business interests hasn't he?
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JamesPhilips wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 13:25 Hes got loads of property and business interests hasn't he?
Who cares
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coghaugen11 wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 13:41
JamesPhilips wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 13:25 Hes got loads of property and business interests hasn't he?
Who cares
I do, good to see he hasn't wasted it on rubbish like some 12st bauble holders have from this country in the past.
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Mods can we rid of the weirdos please?
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coghaugen11 wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 14:19 Mods can we rid of the weirdos please?
Just delete your account.
No, instead, see if you can go, as a gesture to real forum users, a full week without referring every topic back to 90's middleweight/super middleweight, no matter how tedious the link is. I KNOW the whole forum wants this to stop.
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Is BJS still under contract with Matchroom, or has that expired now ? I guess this will have a big bearing on what he does next.
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I'm hoping the smashed in face may teach Saunders some manners and decency,we'll see
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Reads like he putting blame og stoppage on his corner; trying to give excuses why THEY quit ...

He is truly delusional ... trying to say he was saying "no way" about quitting ... when really we all seen him sat there looking terrified and sorry for himself with quit all over his face when he mouthed meekly "no" when asked if he wanted to continue.

His legacy is made now; BJS who talked shlt and quit soon as he got hit.
He has made enough money - what else is boxing going to give him now? no way he gets redemption for the way he quit against Canelo.
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Does his explanation about having lasted the rest of the round with a smashed to pieces eye socket not hold some water as a counter argument to those who want to condemn him for quitting ?
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tonyevs wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 15:42 Reads like he putting blame og stoppage on his corner; trying to give excuses why THEY quit ...

He is truly delusional ... trying to say he was saying "no way" about quitting ... when really we all seen him sat there looking terrified and sorry for himself with quit all over his face when he mouthed meekly "no" when asked if he wanted to continue.

His legacy is made now; BJS who talked shlt and quit soon as he got hit.
He has made enough money - what else is boxing going to give him now? no way he gets redemption for the way he quit against Canelo.
You don't have to like him, I don't particularly, but that is a ridiculously one sided assessment of an excellent career. Nigel Benn openly tells people he quit against Collins and didn't even train for that bout and gets laughs and applause! Billy has lost to the P4P no 1. He didn't get hit once in his career and quit immediately. He qualified for the Olympics at 17. All these things still happened whether people like him or not.
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