Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July

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Who wins and how?

Sanchez T/KO
18
25%
Sanchez Dec
20
28%
Ajagba T/KO
25
35%
Ajagba Dec
8
11%
 
Total votes: 71

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Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July

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Great fight on paper. Winner gets himself in the mix and should be an exciting one to watch.
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Finally a bout featuring two living bodies instead of another prospect vs bum matchup.

The poll has two Sanchez by dec options.
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Looking forward to this :box: :box: :box:
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DrDuke wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 03:35 Finally a bout featuring two living bodies instead of another prospect vs bum matchup.

The poll has two Sanchez by dec options.
That's for pointing that out :TU: Corrected it. It reset the poll though.
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Wow this is a good fight. I favour Frank ‘the tank’ Sanchez.
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IMO Sanchez by decision.He is a better boxer but Efe have a puncher chance.
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Both guys have been fighting bums since 2017. And both men are also rather flawed.

I don’t think either man will ever be good enough to progress their careers to the point they’re classed amongst the top-five world-rated heavyweights.

Normally, I’d award two unbeaten prospects kudos for facing each other, but in this case I won’t, because they’re hyped-up timewasters with horrendously padded records.

Both men are in their late twenties and both have been pros for more than four years. And they’ve achieved nothing of any note – they haven’t even shown any visible signs of improvement since 2019.

It’s about time they faced a half-decent opponent, rather than cab drivers or road sweepers!

That said, when it comes to making a prediction, I’m a bit flummoxed.

The Cuban’s amateur record is seriously impressive, from a statistical standpoint, but he’s less accomplished than the Nigerian in terms of international tournaments.

Ajagba is the bigger more heavy-handed fighter, faced better opponents in the pro ranks and will probably be installed as the betting favourite for this bout, but he’s also slower, more robotic and there’s a big question mark about his durability (since he’s been hurt by subpar opposition).

Sanchez is fast, mobile, throws lots of shots and has a really good team behind him, but his punching power is questionable to the point where he’ll be considered feather-fisted by the top guys, his defence is very leaky, and he’s generally fought slightly weaker opponents in the pro ranks than Ajagba has.

I’m favouring Sanchez to win this fight by decision – he’ll probably outwork Ajagba, but I haven’t got much confidence in my prediction.
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So, it opens up here with Sanchez being favored. Gotta agree.
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Re: Frank Sanchez Vs Efe Ajagba 24th July

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Very interesting fight. While both have been pros since 2017, and neither has stepped up much, they have both averaged 4+ fights a year, even with 2020.

I haven’t seen either in action extensively but from what I have watched they are both decent HW boxers, Sanchez possessing the superior skill level, and quickness. Ajagba is slow, but he has decent skills for the behemoth level. He has much more lethal power than Sanchez, and he is decent at setting up hooks and straight rights behind a varied jab attack.

Ajagba has two inch height and (more importantly) 7 inch reach advantages. The question is whether he will be able to capitalize on them v a considerably quicker Sanchez.

I agree that neither of these two show top level potential currently, but the winner of this fight, on this level of a platform will be in line for a shot at a top 20 level opponent, IMO. Maybe the winner of one of the other undercard fights, or the comeback fight for the loser of the headliner?

Looking forward to it.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 04:37 Both guys have been fighting bums since 2017. And both men are also rather flawed.

I don’t think either man will ever be good enough to progress their careers to the point they’re classed amongst the top-five world-rated heavyweights.

Normally, I’d award two unbeaten prospects kudos for facing each other, but in this case I won’t, because they’re hyped-up timewasters with horrendously padded records.

Both men are in their late twenties and both have been pros for more than four years. And they’ve achieved nothing of any note – they haven’t even shown any visible signs of improvement since 2019.

It’s about time they faced a half-decent opponent, rather than cab drivers or road sweepers!

That said, when it comes to making a prediction, I’m a bit flummoxed.

The Cuban’s amateur record is seriously impressive, from a statistical standpoint, but he’s less accomplished than the Nigerian in terms of international tournaments.

Ajagba is the bigger more heavy-handed fighter, faced better opponents in the pro ranks and will probably be installed as the betting favourite for this bout, but he’s also slower, more robotic and there’s a big question mark about his durability (since he’s been hurt by subpar opposition).

Sanchez is fast, mobile, throws lots of shots and has a really good team behind him, but his punching power is questionable to the point where he’ll be considered feather-fisted by the top guys, his defence is very leaky, and he’s generally fought slightly weaker opponents in the pro ranks than Ajagba has.

I’m favouring Sanchez to win this fight by decision – he’ll probably outwork Ajagba, but I haven’t got much confidence in my prediction.
Nice post EO :TU:
I'm in the mind that Frank will outbox Aggie, maybe knock him out, maybe go to a decision win if Aggie's chin holds up. Seems the votes on the poll reflect this also.
And I don't mind this matchup at all.
Like you said, neither are future superstars, but as far as levels go, its not bad..
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Both are overrated, but this is a good even fight that I think frank will win. Cant belive efe had taken this, being a hyped prospect you normal either sell your first L for bulk cash or keep fighting overmatched guys. Fighting a religious unknown guy that will likely beat you.... not the play.

If wilder loses and efe wins I hope they fight each other in an absolute madness of technique lacking, but power there battle.
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Crossroad fight for both of them.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 04:37 Normally, I’d award two unbeaten prospects kudos for facing each other, but in this case I won’t, because they’re hyped-up timewasters with horrendously padded records.
Wow, seriously?

At 15 and 18 fights, these are "horrendously padded" records? That's a crazy take. For the HW division their records aren't padded at all let alone horrendously. They are completely normal, look at anyone else's record at 15 or 18 fights. There are exceptions like Pulev who fought tough fighters immediately, and cases like Wilder that are true "horrendous" examples, but these guys ain't either.
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SportsRatings wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:22
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 04:37 Normally, I’d award two unbeaten prospects kudos for facing each other, but in this case I won’t, because they’re hyped-up timewasters with horrendously padded records.
Wow, seriously?

At 15 and 18 fights, these are "horrendously padded" records? That's a crazy take. For the HW division their records aren't padded at all let alone horrendously. They are completely normal, look at anyone else's record at 15 or 18 fights. There are exceptions like Pulev who fought tough fighters immediately, and cases like Wilder that are true "horrendous" examples, but these guys ain't either.
Frank Sanchez apparently has a 214-6 amateur record. He's been competing in the pros for pretty much four years and there’s no discernible recent improvement in the calibre of opposition he’s faced, nor his in-ring performance levels.

The same applies with Efe Ajagba.

Frank Sanchez and Efe Ajagba are both guilty of facing journeymen calibre opposition. And the career progression of both men (up until this point) had stalled.

I don’t agree with fighters padding their records by engaging in a continuous stream of outrageously bad mismatches, simply because they need to build hype and notoriety by marketing their talents through the use of knockout highlight reels.

Prospects should engage in learning fights by facing opponents with a variety of pugilistic fighting styles and physical/athletic characteristics, coupled with engaging in gradually more challenging bouts.

Anyway, back to what you previously said...

“Normal” practice is not necessarily a good thing!

It’s “normal” for there to be lots of world titles and consequently world champions. This is bad.

It’s also “normal” for the best to not necessarily fight the best. This is also bad.

Prospects being mollycoddled might be “normal”, but it’s still a bad thing to do.
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Mollycoddled :lol:
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The future for Frank at HW is very limited. He really isn't that great and his size almost disqualifies him.

Efe on the other hand is even worse but atleast sort of fits into the super heavyweight mold.

Then again is Tyson Fury really any better than Frank? I'd say not, I think that if the were both boiled down to the same size that Frank would probably win. Future BW champ perhaps?
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KiwiRider wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 15:23 Mollycoddled :lol:
True though. :clap:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 17:24
KiwiRider wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 15:23 Mollycoddled :lol:
True though. :clap:
Ha ha, not a term I've heard this century :-P
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H8Usernames wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 16:27 The future for Frank at HW is very limited. He really isn't that great and his size almost disqualifies him.

Efe on the other hand is even worse but atleast sort of fits into the super heavyweight mold.

Then again is Tyson Fury really any better than Frank? I'd say not, I think that if the were both boiled down to the same size that Frank would probably win. Future BW champ perhaps?
Aww come on man! :brick:
Motivated Fury is better than the lot of them, and it behoves me to say that because I'm not even a fan.
All boxing skills aside, Frank does not have the fast twitch fibres that Tyson has. Tyson would beat him to the punch, or move out of range all day, every day.
Frank Sanchez is Cubas answer to Joe Joyce :D
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frank sanchez is like luis ortiz's son, in style and appearance, meaning frank looks about 45 and daddy luis looks about 80
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margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 19:07 frank sanchez is like luis ortiz's son, in style and appearance, meaning frank looks about 45 and daddy luis looks about 80
:lol: true.
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Frank Sanchez was booked in to spar Muhammad Ali but missed the opportunity due to the Cuban missile crisis.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:48
Prospects being mollycoddled might be “normal”, but it’s still a bad thing to do.


But now they're facing each other, isn't that exactly what they should do?

What would you rather they do other than fight each other?
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SportsRatings wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 20:43
Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:48
Prospects being mollycoddled might be “normal”, but it’s still a bad thing to do.


But now they're facing each other, isn't that exactly what they should do?

What would you rather they do other than fight each other?
Just because Sanchez and Ajagba are facing each other now, does that mean we're allowed to ignore real-world history? Did the last four years not really happen?

Even Christopher Lovejoy and Mark De Mori took a step up in class at some point, does that mean they no longer possess obscenely padded resumes?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 04:37 Both guys have been fighting bums since 2017. And both men are also rather flawed.

I don’t think either man will ever be good enough to progress their careers to the point they’re classed amongst the top-five world-rated heavyweights.

Normally, I’d award two unbeaten prospects kudos for facing each other, but in this case I won’t, because they’re hyped-up timewasters with horrendously padded records.

Both men are in their late twenties and both have been pros for more than four years. And they’ve achieved nothing of any note – they haven’t even shown any visible signs of improvement since 2019.

It’s about time they faced a half-decent opponent, rather than cab drivers or road sweepers!

That said, when it comes to making a prediction, I’m a bit flummoxed.

The Cuban’s amateur record is seriously impressive, from a statistical standpoint, but he’s less accomplished than the Nigerian in terms of international tournaments.

Ajagba is the bigger more heavy-handed fighter, faced better opponents in the pro ranks and will probably be installed as the betting favourite for this bout, but he’s also slower, more robotic and there’s a big question mark about his durability (since he’s been hurt by subpar opposition).

Sanchez is fast, mobile, throws lots of shots and has a really good team behind him, but his punching power is questionable to the point where he’ll be considered feather-fisted by the top guys, his defence is very leaky, and he’s generally fought slightly weaker opponents in the pro ranks than Ajagba has.

I’m favouring Sanchez to win this fight by decision – he’ll probably outwork Ajagba, but I haven’t got much confidence in my prediction.
I agree with pretty much all of this except I had no hesitation in picking Sanchez-Faure. I'm less confident in my picking 'by decision' as I wouldn't rule out a late stoppage. Ajagba is the bigger puncher and he's unbeaten and is probably expecting to remain that way. It should be a good fight and I'm really looking forward to seeing them both in a competitive and meaningful fight. Finally.
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