Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 10 Sep 2021, 12:45

Valdez - Decision
2
11%
Valdez - T/KO
11
61%
DRAW
1
6%
Conceica - T/KO
0
No votes
Conceica - Decision
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22%
 
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Bob Arum intends for Oscar Valdez to face Robson Conceicao this fall, not Shakur Stevenson

Despite young rising star Shakur Stevenson repeated calling out Oscar Valdez for a fight he wants before the year is out, it doesn’t seem that Stevenson will get his wish with Top Rank promoter Bob Arum telling ESPN that Valdez will instead face Robson Conceicao this September in Arizona. This obviously isn’t going to be thrilling news for Stevenson, who is on the hunt for a world title at 130, but it is what it is as they say.

Valdez (29-0, 23 KOs) is most recently coming off the biggest win of his career, upsetting Miguel Berchelt this past February to become WBC world champion. His next opponent Conceicao (16-0, 8 KOs), is a 2016 Olympic gold medal winner but has yet to step onto the big stage in the professional ranks, mostly beating low level opposition to this point.

The fight against Conceicao clearly won’t be as big of an event as it would be against Stevenson, but it would appear Arum has more designs on marination, not quite ready to toss two of his young stars into the ring with one another.
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It appears that Arum is cashing out on Robson Conceição. This is a huge step up for the Brazilian, who has a superb amateur pedigree, a gold medal, and a trivia contest question regarding his very controversial loss to Lomassiah 10 years ago.

If Conceicao had power he would be a force to be reckoned with, but he does not. He has pretty much everything else, although Coria exposed his vulnerability to the left hook.

However, even though he was knocked down extremely hard in round 2 v Coria, and, in my opinion, never fully recovered, he had the depth of toughness, experience, skills, and heart to gut out a close UD. I had the very strange fight 95-93 Conceicao.

The Brazilian is very long for his size. He possesses an excellent jab that he tends to forget about as the fight progresses. He cannot afford to do that v Valdez.

Conceicao also has an excellent body attack that he combines with big, sweeping hooks upstairs that open him up to the left hook, which will likely be deadly v Valdez.

Arum obviously believes that Conceicao has reached his perfect ripeness for picking, and this is the best outcome/payday that he can grant the Brazilian; essentially feeding him to the lion. It will likely be a relatively lucrative payday for a man who fought his way off the dirt streets of Brazil’s horrid slums to win gold in 2016, and get a (long) shot at a world title at the age of 32.

I really like Oscar, but I will be pulling for a huge upset by Conceicao in this one.
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top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:26 top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
What about that Robeisy Ramirez. Nothing with him either. TR pick and chose
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:26 top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
I think the opposite; they matched him to cash him.
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ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:52
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:26 top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
I think the opposite; they matched him to cash him.
they matched him with 0 ambition for his own career achievements or development, thats what i mean

if they really cared much then he would've been matched better, hyped more, and not just dumped on undercards

his first interesting, headlining fight ,his first fight vs an opponent of any note, is one at 33 where he is a big underdog b-side and will prob get beaten up, basically being used as fodder
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 16:31
ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:52
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:26 top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
I think the opposite; they matched him to cash him.
they matched him with 0 ambition for his own career achievements or development, thats what i mean

if they really cared much then he would've been matched better, hyped more, and not just dumped on undercards

his first interesting, headlining fight ,his first fight vs an opponent of any note, is one at 33 where he is a big underdog b-side and will prob get beaten up, basically being used as fodder
So…we agree from different angles.

I think that they evaluated him as not having the pop nor chin to graduate up level with success. They padded his record to realize the ROI potential based on their evaluation. This is his potential, in their view.

I hate to agree with them, but the Coria fight supports their career track for him. It is likely that he will be brutally stopped somewhere along the line in this fight. If he puts up a valiant, entertaining effort, he will get another decent opportunity, if he chooses to go on with his career.

If he pulls the massive upset, there will likely be a rematch, or he may be fed to Shakur, which would be a much less risky fight on paper than Valdez.
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Btw, if all goes according to plan, T/R may match Conceicao v Nakathila in an Africa v SA fight after this.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:50
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:26 top rank has matched robby like they dont really give an eff about him
What about that Robeisy Ramirez. Nothing with him either. TR pick and chose
they at least were keeping him active, 8 fights or something in his first 16 months pro, which helped put the loss behind him, but he's only fought once in 2021.
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ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 16:47
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 16:31
ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 15:52
I think the opposite; they matched him to cash him.
they matched him with 0 ambition for his own career achievements or development, thats what i mean

if they really cared much then he would've been matched better, hyped more, and not just dumped on undercards

his first interesting, headlining fight ,his first fight vs an opponent of any note, is one at 33 where he is a big underdog b-side and will prob get beaten up, basically being used as fodder
So…we agree from different angles.

I think that they evaluated him as not having the pop nor chin to graduate up level with success. They padded his record to realize the ROI potential based on their evaluation. This is his potential, in their view.

I hate to agree with them, but the Coria fight supports their career track for him. It is likely that he will be brutally stopped somewhere along the line in this fight. If he puts up a valiant, entertaining effort, he will get another decent opportunity, if he chooses to go on with his career.

If he pulls the massive upset, there will likely be a rematch, or he may be fed to Shakur, which would be a much less risky fight on paper than Valdez.

i think with how he was handled he was never gonna reach his full potential anyway, there was really very little push from the start. even as an olympic gold medalist he's basically just been kept in his pen waiting for the slaughter. i see it too often with talented top rank guys, they stagnate badly. maybe they got excited with him winning gold, and then when they had him signed up they realized that perhaps a brazilian w/o the most entertaining style just wasnt gonna be worth putting much into

they care in so far as he can fatten up their prized champ, so it's true theres some 'care' there, but pretty much nothing in terms of robby himself

my guess would be that his career with top rank is short lived/non-existant after this if valdez beats him up
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 19:05
ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 16:47
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 16:31

they matched him with 0 ambition for his own career achievements or development, thats what i mean

if they really cared much then he would've been matched better, hyped more, and not just dumped on undercards

his first interesting, headlining fight ,his first fight vs an opponent of any note, is one at 33 where he is a big underdog b-side and will prob get beaten up, basically being used as fodder
So…we agree from different angles.

I think that they evaluated him as not having the pop nor chin to graduate up level with success. They padded his record to realize the ROI potential based on their evaluation. This is his potential, in their view.

I hate to agree with them, but the Coria fight supports their career track for him. It is likely that he will be brutally stopped somewhere along the line in this fight. If he puts up a valiant, entertaining effort, he will get another decent opportunity, if he chooses to go on with his career.

If he pulls the massive upset, there will likely be a rematch, or he may be fed to Shakur, which would be a much less risky fight on paper than Valdez.

i think with how he was handled he was never gonna reach his full potential anyway, there was really very little push from the start. even as an olympic gold medalist he's basically just been kept in his pen waiting for the slaughter. i see it too often with talented top rank guys, they stagnate badly. maybe they got excited with him winning gold, and then when they had him signed up they realized that perhaps a brazilian w/o the most entertaining style just wasnt gonna be worth putting much into

they care in so far as he can fatten up their prized champ, so it's true theres some 'care' there, but pretty much nothing in terms of robby himself

my guess would be that his career with top rank is short lived/non-existant after this if valdez beats him up
Obviously, T/R only cares about Arum’s personal interests. TCraw is ample proof of that.
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Oscar Valdez Signs New Multi-Fight Agreement With Top Rank

Undefeated WBC super featherweight world champion Oscar Valdez has signed a new multi-fight promotional agreement with Top Rank.

“It’s a pleasure to promote a young athlete like Oscar Valdez. He is a true gentleman who is grateful for the help we’ve provided, and he works collaboratively with the company for the mutual benefit of both parties,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. “I have been very fond of Oscar from the moment we signed him, and I am proud of everything he has accomplished. I would like to recognize Frank Espinoza, a fantastic manager who has been integral in helping Oscar reach this point.”

Valdez (29-0, 23 KOs), a two-time Mexican Olympian, turned pro with Top Rank following the 2012 London Olympics and continues a partnership that has seen him win world titles in two weight classes and become one of the faces of Top Rank on ESPN.

Valdez said, “I am proud to be part of the Top Rank family. I want to thank Bob Arum and Todd duBoef for their confidence in my abilities. I will not let them down. I also want to thank my manager, Frank Espinoza, for securing a great deal for me. This is a wonderful moment in my career, and I’m grateful to God for my blessings.”

A former WBO featherweight world champion, the 30-year-old Valdez upset the odds and boxed a brutal masterpiece in his last bout, knocking out Miguel Berchelt in an all-Mexican showdown to win the WBC super featherweight world title. Valdez is scheduled to return this fall on an ESPN platform.

Added Espinoza, “We are ecstatic that Top Rank and Oscar Valdez are continuing what has been a long and successful partnership. Bob Arum and Todd duBoef recognize Oscar as a special fighter with all the characteristics to make him an all-time great. Oscar has the discipline and passion it takes to reach the top levels of the sport. We’re very proud of what Oscar has achieved so far, and we’re confident he will delight boxing fans with more exciting and memorable fights.”
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Oscar Valdez Set For Homecoming Title Defense, September 10 In Tucson

Oscar Valdez will receive a homecoming on the heels of the biggest win of his career.

A return to Tucson is in store for the two-time Mexican Olympian and unbeaten two-division titlist, who will headline a September 10 ESPN card from the AVA Amphitheatre at Casino del Sol Resort in Tucson, Arizona. Valdez will make the first defense of his WBC junior lightweight title, with Robson Conceicao—a 2016 Olympic Gold medalist and current rising contender—as the leading candidate, pending sanctioning body approval as the unbeaten Brazilian is currently not ranked by the WBC in any weight division.

The title defense has been in talks for weeks, with Top Rank on the hunt for a right date and location. Several dates were in play for August and September as well as October 1, before settling on September 10 as first revealed via social media by The Athletic’s Lance Pugmire.

The event will mark Valdez’s first fight since his sensational 10th round knockout of long-reigning WBC junior lightweight titlist Miguel Berchelt this past February at MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas.

“Oscar Valdez is really excited about fighting in Arizona again after his big win against Miguel Berchelt,” Frank Espinoza Jr. of Espinoza Boxing Club, Valdez’s career-long manager told Boxing Scene. “I know he’s very excited to perform in front of fans. As always, Oscar Valdez will be ready to put on a show for everyone watching!”

Valdez (29-0, 23 KOs) last appeared in Tucson atop a September 2017 show from Tucson Convention Center, roughly 20 minutes from Casino del Sol. Valdez—originally from Sonora, Mexico but who grew up in Tucson and still has family in the area—also topped an ESPN show that night, making the second defense of his WBO featherweight title in a sensational 12-round war with Genesis Servania, where both fighters hit the deck before Valdez prevailed by unanimous decision.

“Summer just got hotter in Tucson! Oscar Valdez gets a lot of love here,” Michelle ‘Raging Babe’ Rosado told BS.com, as her Raging Babe company takes the local lead for the event. “I’ve said for years that Tucson is a hidden gem of a fight town. They love their [Arizona] Wildcats and their boxing.

“I expect fans to travel from Phoenix to Tucson for Valdez’s homecoming.”


The fight with Servania attracted more than 4,100 fans in attendance, with a full house expected for his first fight back as a two-division world champion. Valdez has raised his profile on the strength of his tour-de-force performance versus Berchelt, ending his countryman’s four-plus year title reign.

With the win, the next course of progression for Valdez was to re-establish him as a box-office attraction. Tucson has always served as a fun fight town, one that appears to be ripe for world class boxing following the pandemic.

“We’ve had great success in Tucson, and Top Rank was sharp enough to return,” notes Rosado. “I’m thrilled the event is happening at Casino Del Sol. The property is beautiful and it’s where the late Hall-of-Fame promoter Don 'War-A-Week' Chargin often pitched his tent.”
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First fight in Tucson in 4 years..
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So Conceica isn't ranked with WBC at all.. YThey need approval.

1 | Miguel Berchelt
2 | O'Shaquie Foster
3 | M. Yaqubov
4 | Tevin Farmer
5 | Rene Alvarado
6 | Eduardo Hernandez
7 | Andrew Cancio
8 | Samir Ziani
9 | Pablo Vicente
10 | Albert Bell
11 | Azinga Fuzile
12 | Joey Noynay
13 | Lamont Roach
14 | Xavier Martinez
15 | Ricardo Nunez

That's the most latest I coud find..
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Fight Confirmed

Oscar Valdez is set to head home.

The unbeaten two-division and reigning WBC junior lightweight titlist will next face 2016 Olympic Gold medalist and current 130-pound contender Robson Conceicao. The bout will top an ESPN+ telecast to take place September 10 at AVA Amphitheater at Casino Del Sol at Casino del Sol in Valdez’s childhood hometown of Tucson, Arizona.

In the chief support, Gabriel Flores Jr. continues his rise as a junior lightweight contender as he faces no-nonsense Luis Alberto Lopez in a scheduled ten-round affair.

Top Rank formally announced the show on Tuesday, confirming an earlier report from Boxing Scene.

“Oscar Valdez is coming off a career-best performance and wants to put on a spectacular showing in front of the great Tucson fans,” said Top Rank chairman and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum. “Conceição has been waiting for this shot ever since he turned pro, and having promoted him for his entire career, I know he’ll be at his very best.

“We have a great co-feature, as the young Flores wants to prove he is a contender to watch, and he can do that by beating a tough Mexican in Luis Alberto Lopez.”

Valdez will make the first defense of the WBC junior lightweight title he claimed in a tenth-round knockout of Miguel Berchelt this past February 20, delivering one of the year’s best performances in unseating the long-reigning champ. The win saw Valdez (29-0, 23KOs)—a two-time Mexican Olympian—become a two-division world champion after having previously held the WBO featherweight title. Included in his three-year featherweight title reign was a twelve-round win over Genesis Servania, with both fighters scoring knockdowns before Valdez prevailed by unanimous decision in their September 2017 war at Tucson, Arizona.

The 30-year-old now returns home with another title in tow.

"I am very excited to fight in my second home, Tucson, Arizona, where I will have my first defense of the WBC super featherweight world title,” Valdez said. “It motivates me to know that I will defend the title in front of my friends and my family, and I will be willing to put it on the line as in all my fights. I'm coming to give a great show to my people, and I can't wait to see you on Sept. 10."

Conceicao (16-0, 8KOs) was teased as the title challenger for months. His status was upgraded after entering the WBC junior lightweight Top 15 rankings in the most recent ratings update, clearing the way for his first career title fight.

“I've been waiting my whole life for this opportunity, and that's why I'm training with great determination,” vows Conceicao, who is coming off of a seventh-round knockout of Jesus Ahumada this past April 13 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. “I will represent my family and Brazil. I already won a gold medal for my country and now I will bring home a world title. With great determination, I will deliver a great performance. It will be a true spectacle!"

The evening’s co-feature attraction will see Flores once again appear in supporting capacity to Valdez. The two shared the ESPN stage on February 20, with the 20-year-old Flores—originally from Stockton, California and now based out of Las Vegas—earn his best win to date with a sixth-round stoppage of former title challenger Jayson Velez.

“This is the next step in my journey towards a world title, and I will convincingly defeat Lopez,” Flores said. “I’m going to prove once again that I’m ready for the next level.”

Mexicali’s Lopez (22-2, 12KOs) enters riding a five-fight win streak since moving up from featherweight.

“I appreciate matchmaker Brad Goodman and Top Rank for the opportunity to fight Gabriel Flores Jr,” Lopez said of the fight. “I know he’ll be prepared to give everything on Sept. 10, but so am I, and I guarantee nothing but my very best. I’m a man of few words, and I’ll let my actions do the talking inside the ring.”

Preceding the main card and as previously reported by BS.com, Junto Nakatani will make the first defense of his WBO flyweight title versus former junior flyweight champ Angel 'Tito' Acosta. The bout will mark the celebrated U.S. debut for Nakatani (21-0, 16KOs), an all-action 23-year-old southpaw from Sagamihara, Japan.

Also on the show, blue-chip welterweight prospect Xander Zayas (9-0, 7KOs) will appear in a scheduled six-round contest.

Rounding out the undercard in scheduled eight-round bouts are lightweight prospect, Raymond Muratalla (12-0, 10 KOs), 2016 Mexican Olympian and junior welterweight prospect Lindolfo Delgado (12-0, 11 KOs), René Telléz Girón (15-1, 9 KOs) and Mexican junior welterweight knockout artist Omar Aguilar (21-0, 20 KOs).

Per Top Rank’s announcement, tickets will go on sale beginning July 27, starting at $25 and made available through Etix.com.
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Is Conceica ranked with WBC yet?
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Oscar Valdez (140.6), Robson Conceicao (142.8) Meet WBC 30-Day Weight Requirements
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diuretic helps increase the passing of urine.

Valdez has moved up in weight..

Now there’s gonna be doubts over his win against Berchelt.
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9 times out of 10, the B sample is same as the A sample.
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FFS makes you wonder why Garcia took a hiatus
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handsofstone wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 16:15 FFS makes you wonder why Garcia took a hiatus
Mikey?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 16:28
handsofstone wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 16:15 FFS makes you wonder why Garcia took a hiatus
Mikey?
Ryan :TU:

I knew Nery pissed hot before the link up with Reynoso but what about Julio Cesar Martinez?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 14:15 diuretic helps increase the passing of urine.

Valdez has moved up in weight..

Now there’s gonna be doubts over his win against Berchelt.
Easy does it dude. Let’s not take that kind of leap here. I’m very familiar with water pills as they were huge in college while attempting to make weight. In one night, I could flush 15 pounds down the toilet. But where you may have a point is in the timing of this. Why the hell is Oscar taking this water pill nowhere close to fight night? That is extremely sketchy.

The MO with water pills is to take them one to two days before weigh in. The reason being bc they sap you of nutrients and strength. But if you quickly replenish them right after making weight, your body is tricked into bouncing right back. But why is Oscar taking these water pills over a week before a fight? Perhaps it’s not about weight but illegal drugs in his system during camp? It’s a leap but I have no idea why anyone would take these so far ahead of a weigh in.
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