Tom Brown: Of Course Hearn Wants Andrade Off His Platform, PBC To Pay For Charlo Fight

[Enlightened-One]

When Bob Arum claimed he was losing money promoting Terence Crawford, Eddie Hearn said he sympathises, because he faces the same predicament with Demetrius Andrade.

Everyone appears to be blaming Charlo for not facing Andrade, but Demetrius can't get a fight against anyone.

And there has to be a reason for that. It doesn't have anything to do with fear/cowardice either.

There are 2 sides to everything

Andrade is boring and has no fans
Charlo takes less money to fight garbage

They are both at fault. Its why boxing is at its all time worst

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients used in the meals being prepared!

[Ruthless-RKO]

When Bob Arum claimed he was losing money promoting Terence Crawford, Eddie Hearn said he sympathises, because he faces the same predicament with Demetrius Andrade.

Everyone appears to be blaming Charlo for not facing Andrade, but Demetrius can't get a fight against anyone.

And there has to be a reason for that. It doesn't have anything to do with fear/cowardice either.

There are 2 sides to everything

Andrade is boring and has no fans
Charlo takes less money to fight garbage

They are both at fault. Its why boxing is at its all time worst

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients being used in the meals being prepared!

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

[Enlightened-One]

There are 2 sides to everything

Andrade is boring and has no fans
Charlo takes less money to fight garbage

They are both at fault. Its why boxing is at its all time worst

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients being used in the meals being prepared!

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

Let's pretend that Jermall Charlo never existed.

Would you agree there's a plethora of 160lbs/168lbs talent aligned with DAZN?

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates?

Please refrain from providing a response that mentions Jermall Charlo's name - it's simply a weak red herring that has absolutely nothing to do with the question being posed.

"Why has Demetrius Andrade got an itchy backside?"

"It's Jermall Charlo's fault! He must be responsible somehow!"

[apollo creed]

There are 2 sides to everything

Andrade is boring and has no fans
Charlo takes less money to fight garbage

They are both at fault. Its why boxing is at its all time worst

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients being used in the meals being prepared!

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

Plain and simple.

It looks like Charlo wants to stay safe and talk nonsense, wainting for Canelo's call.

[Ruthless-RKO]

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients being used in the meals being prepared!

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

Plain and simple.

It looks like Charlo wants to stay safe and talk nonsense, wainting for Canelo's call.

Fair enough there is risk vs. reward.. But the reward is a career high payday $7m.
Same as what BJS got agaisnt Canelo.

Jermall has more chance at beating Andrade than Canelo.

Supposed to be PRIZE-FIGHTERS!!

[gilgamesh]

When Bob Arum claimed he was losing money promoting Terence Crawford, Eddie Hearn said he sympathises, because he faces the same predicament with Demetrius Andrade.

Everyone appears to be blaming Charlo for not facing Andrade, but Demetrius can't get a fight against anyone.

And there has to be a reason for that. It doesn't have anything to do with fear/cowardice either.

I blame Andrade for not being able to get a big fight with anyone. He stinks the joint out every time he fights.

Shakur Stevenson is lucky to have big promotional backing or he'd probably be in the same position right about now.

[maverick23]

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients being used in the meals being prepared!

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

Let's pretend that Jermall Charlo never existed.

Would you agree there's a plethora of 160lbs/168lbs talent aligned with DAZN?

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates?

Please refrain from providing a response that mentions Jermall Charlo's name - it's simply a weak red herring that has absolutely nothing to do with the question being posed.

"Why has Demetrius Andrade got an itchy backside?"

"It's Jermall Charlo's fault! He must be responsible somehow!"

There are several good 160/168s (more 168s) who fight on DAZN but which 160 fighters are aligned with Eddie? Billy Joe won’t be fighting for a while and was at 168, Jacobs is at 168 now, Golovkin (who isn’t promoted by Eddie) is slated to fight Murata. Who else does Eddie promote at 160 that could fight him?

If the 2 other champs are down to fight each other then why not go after Jermall after he said himself that he wanted to unify the division?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Let's pretend that Jermall Charlo never existed.

Would you agree there's a plethora of 160lbs/168lbs talent aligned with DAZN?

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates?

Please refrain from providing a response that mentions Jermall Charlo's name - it's simply a weak red herring that has absolutely nothing to do with the question being posed.

"Why has Demetrius Andrade got an itchy backside?"

"It's Jermall Charlo's fault! He must be responsible somehow!"

Only Hearn can answer that question for you. I'm not Eddie. Unless he has.

People call Andrade boring? I have watched more boring fighters.

It comes down to risk of losing to him. Which no one wants to.

Which boxers with DAZN are actually contracted with Matchroom though?

Canelo isn't, neither is GGG. They both work alongside Matchroom though for events and undercards etc. Eddie doesn't own DAZN. Who else is there? Munguia? He's with GBP. When he moved up, why didn't he ask for a WBO title shot? wouldn't he be mandatory? Again, ask GBP or Munguia why they haven't.

Who else is there? BJS is at 168, nearly retiring.

1 ➡ Jermall Charlo
2 ➡ Gennadiy Golovkin
3 ➡ Demetrius Andrade
4 ➡ Jaime Munguia
5 ➡ Erislandy Lara
6 ➡ Chris Eubank Jr.
7 ➡ Sergiy Derevyanchenko
8 ➡ Ryota Murata
9 ➡ Maciej Sulecki
10 ➡ Liam Williams
11 ➡ Rob Brant
12 ➡ Vincent Feigenbutz
13 ➡ Esquiva Falcao
14 ➡ Luis Arias
15 ➡ Felix Cash
16 ➡ Issac Hardman
17 ➡ Fiodor Czerkaszyn
18 ➡ Kanat Islam
20 ➡ Juan Macias Montiel

That's BoxRec's top 20.

Who else fights on DAZN or signed with Hearn's Matchroom Boxing?

[margaret thatcher]

"'has promoter x submitted an offer"

[Enlightened-One]

Let's pretend that Jermall Charlo never existed.

Would you agree there's a plethora of 160lbs/168lbs talent aligned with DAZN?

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates?

Please refrain from providing a response that mentions Jermall Charlo's name - it's simply a weak red herring that has absolutely nothing to do with the question being posed.

"Why has Demetrius Andrade got an itchy backside?"

"It's Jermall Charlo's fault! He must be responsible somehow!"

Only Hearn can answer that question for you. I'm not Eddie. Unless he has.

People call Andrade boring? I have watched more boring fighters.

It comes down to risk of losing to him. Which no one wants to.

Which boxers with DAZN are actually contracted with Matchroom though?

Canelo isn't, neither is GGG. They both work alongside Matchroom though for events and undercards etc. Eddie doesn't own DAZN. Who else is there? Munguia? He's with GBP. When he moved up, why didn't he ask for a WBO title shot? wouldn't he be mandatory? Again, ask GBP or Munguia why they haven't.

Who else is there? BJS is at 168, nearly retiring.

1 ➡ Jermall Charlo
2 ➡ Gennadiy Golovkin
3 ➡ Demetrius Andrade
4 ➡ Jaime Munguia
5 ➡ Erislandy Lara
6 ➡ Chris Eubank Jr.
7 ➡ Sergiy Derevyanchenko
8 ➡ Ryota Murata
9 ➡ Maciej Sulecki
10 ➡ Liam Williams
11 ➡ Rob Brant
12 ➡ Vincent Feigenbutz
13 ➡ Esquiva Falcao
14 ➡ Luis Arias
15 ➡ Felix Cash
16 ➡ Issac Hardman
17 ➡ Fiodor Czerkaszyn
18 ➡ Kanat Islam
20 ➡ Juan Macias Montiel

That's BoxRec's top 20.

Who else fights on DAZN or signed with Hearn's Matchroom Boxing?

I've only looked at the top eleven names, but the following fighters are either aligned with DAZN somehow, or have recently had their fights covered by DAZN or will have impending bouts broadcast by DAZN:

Gennadiy Golovkin, Chris Eubank Jr., Demetrius Andrade, Jaime Munguia, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Ryota Murata, Maciej Sulecki, Liam Williams and Rob Brant.

If I checked some of the other names, I suspect some of them have also recently appeared on DAZN fight cards (or may do in the near future). I know for certain that Esquiva Falcao was being considered as a potential GGG opponent in August.

Eddie Hearn/DAZN is clearly capable of orchestrating decent bouts for fighters not-named Demetrius Andrade!

And that's the crux of my argument!

[apollo creed]

Andrade can get fights though, he wants big fights, that's the fights he can't get, just like Charlo WANTS big fights.

Andrade considers Jermall a big fight, Jermall doesn't consider Andrade a big fight though.

FACT is an offer was made to Jermall, and he said no.

A career-high offer $7m to fight on DAZN.

Alternitively, they said Andrade can fight on FOX and will accept the same purse Derev took.

All Hearn is trying to do it make a big unification fight at Middleweight.

Plain and simple.

It looks like Charlo wants to stay safe and talk nonsense, wainting for Canelo's call.

Fair enough there is risk vs. reward.. But the reward is a career high payday $7m.
Same as what BJS got agaisnt Canelo.

Jermall has more chance at beating Andrade than Canelo.

Supposed to be PRIZE-FIGHTERS!!

True.

Charlo probably is trying to somehow "marinate" the fight between him and Canelo for a bigger jackpot. Charlo has no good options in his stable at 160 lbs. Maybe if he somehow gets a fight-deal with Eubank Jr? or he moves up at 168 lbs to fight guys like Dirrell, Truax, Uzcategui, Lionell Thompson, Plant or maybe Benavidez?

[margaret thatcher]

ya, but please answer me these questions

1. was an offer submitted to charlo's team
2. are boxers supposed to be prize fighters or pride fighters
3. would andrade be at all a notable win on charlos resume

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just because someone has fought on DAZN, although not contracted to GBP or Matchroom, doesn’t mean they will fight again. Most of them have lost.

Anyone is a potential. DAZN offer career high paydays.

[KiwiRider]

Also, who is Brown to say the fans don't wanna see Andrade vs. Charlo.

Oh that made me chuckle Ruthie
Your right, who is Brown to say the fans don't wanna see that fight?
The fans can express almost unanimously that they don't want to see that fight, or any other Andrade fight for that matter.

[Enlightened-One]

Just because someone has fought on DAZN, although not contracted to GBP or Matchroom, doesn’t mean they will fight again. Most of them have lost.

Anyone is a potential. DAZN offer career high paydays.

And yet Demetrius Andrade can’t get a decent fight against any of the big names that appear on DAZN.

In fact, he can’t even get a fight against anyone moderately impressive.

Is that Jermall Charlo’s fault or Boo Boo’s own promoter (and primary boxing content provider for DAZN) Eddie Hearn?

The answer to that question SHOULD be obvious.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just because someone has fought on DAZN, although not contracted to GBP or Matchroom, doesn’t mean they will fight again. Most of them have lost.

Anyone is a potential. DAZN offer career high paydays.

And yet Demetrius Andrade can’t get a decent fight against any of the big names that appear on DAZN.

Is that Jermall Charlo’s fault or Boo Boo’s own promoter (and primary boxing content provider for DAZN) Eddie Hearn?

The answer to that question SHOULD be obvious.

I’m not playing the blame game. They both want the big fights, the unification is there between them. Record purses are there for them..

[Enlightened-One]

Just because someone has fought on DAZN, although not contracted to GBP or Matchroom, doesn’t mean they will fight again. Most of them have lost.

Anyone is a potential. DAZN offer career high paydays.

And yet Demetrius Andrade can’t get a decent fight against any of the big names that appear on DAZN.

Is that Jermall Charlo’s fault or Boo Boo’s own promoter (and primary boxing content provider for DAZN) Eddie Hearn?

The answer to that question SHOULD be obvious.

I’m not playing the blame game. They both want the big fights, the unification is there between them. Record purses are there for them..

Do you think the alleged $7m Charlo offer was legit, because Eddie Hearn seems deeply reluctant to fund decent fights for Andrade against other big-name opposition?

It’s not as if Al Haymon is going to confirm or deny anything either.

So we only know one side of the proverbial story.

[Ruthless-RKO]

And yet Demetrius Andrade can’t get a decent fight against any of the big names that appear on DAZN.

Is that Jermall Charlo’s fault or Boo Boo’s own promoter (and primary boxing content provider for DAZN) Eddie Hearn?

The answer to that question SHOULD be obvious.

I’m not playing the blame game. They both want the big fights, the unification is there between them. Record purses are there for them..

Do you think the alleged $7m Charlo offer was legit, because Eddie Hearn seems deeply reluctant to fund decent fights for Andrade against other big-name opposition?

It’s not as if Al Haymon is going to confirm or deny anything either.

So we only know one side of the proverbial story.

He gave Mikey $7m to fight Vargas. Vargas got $3m..

That’s up to Al if he wants to talk or not.

[Enlightened-One]

I’m not playing the blame game. They both want the big fights, the unification is there between them. Record purses are there for them..

Do you think the alleged $7m Charlo offer was legit, because Eddie Hearn seems deeply reluctant to fund decent fights for Andrade against other big-name opposition?

It’s not as if Al Haymon is going to confirm or deny anything either.

So we only know one side of the proverbial story.

He gave Mikey $7m to fight Vargas. Vargas got $3m..

That’s up to Al if he wants to talk or not.

Eddie Hearn has admitted he loses money staging fights for Demetrius Andrade, with Boo Boo only having two bouts remaining of his Matchroom contract, and by that time he’ll be 34 years of age and coming towards the end of his career.

Since signing with Matchroom, Demetrius Andrade has fought Walter Kautondokwa, Artur Akavov, Maciej Sulecki, Luke Keeler and Liam Williams.

In the context of a fighter demanding to engage in marquee bouts against the likes of Canelo, GGG and Charlo, that’s an appalling set of opponents.

Therefore, I think there’s a real possibility that Matchroom will consider allowing Andrade’s contract to expire sometime during 2022, without even attempting to renew it (if Hearn feels he can’t make money orchestrating a decent fight for Demetrius).

[Ruthless-RKO]

DAZN have probably made a loss on most DAZN cards to be honest.

Jermall’s resume at 160 aint all that good either.

If he wants the big boys, he needs to make a one time deal with DAZN. Don’t you agree?

He’s on the wrong side of the proverbial street.

[Enlightened-One]

DAZN have probably made a loss on most DAZN cards to be honest.

Jermall’s resume at 160 aint all that good either.

If he wants the big boys, he needs to make a one time deal with DAZN. Don’t you agree?

He’s on the wrong side of the proverbial street.

Jermall Charlo is on the wrong side of the street.

And just like Bob Arum, Al Haymon won’t work with his rivals unless mega money is involed.

And I’d like to see Jermall Charlo face Demetrius Andrade, even though Boo Boo definitely doesn’t deserve it.

And Eddie Hearn isn’t always truthful, his claims about the PBC guys, barring Luis Ortiz, are often unrealistic and rarely verified, because he knows Al Haymon will never refute anything anyone says about him, unless he’s forced to in a court of law.

And if Eddie Hearn can’t make money from Boo Boo, then he’ll drop Andrade as soon as his contract expires (as per the Michael Hunter situation).

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

When Bob Arum claimed he was losing money promoting Terence Crawford, Eddie Hearn said he sympathises, because he faces the same predicament with Demetrius Andrade.

Everyone appears to be blaming Charlo for not facing Andrade, but Demetrius can't get a fight against anyone.

And there has to be a reason for that. It doesn't have anything to do with fear/cowardice either.

There are 2 sides to everything

Andrade is boring and has no fans
Charlo takes less money to fight garbage

They are both at fault. Its why boxing is at its all time worst

You're missing the point though, people are so busy blaming Jermall Charlo for the fact that Demetrius Andrade can't get fights against decent opponents, they've actually become oblivious to the blatantly obvious!

The 160lbs and 168lbs roster of fighters at DAZN is stacked with talent, with most of them aligned to Matchroom.

So why isn't Eddie Hearn pitting Demetrius Andrade against his fellow stablemates? No one is asking this simple question.

Surely Jermall Charlo can't be blamed for Eddie Hearn's in-house matchmaking? And if you think he he is, I'd love to know the reason why?

It seems that if Andrade breaks wind, then someone will inevitably blame Jermall Charlo for adversely affecting Boo Boo's digestive system (via telepathy), rather than Demetrius himself for the food he consumes or his chef (Eddie Hearn) for the ingredients used in the meals being prepared!

I agree.

Charlo could fight him for big money and doesnt.
Ggg would rather fight squash matches

They all suck.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Bandog]

How many fighters (not named AJ, Canelo or their opponents) command $7m payday's from Matchroom/DAZN? Not many (if any?).

How much does Andrade earn per fight? Would it be optimistic to say he maxes out at $1.5m, with his opponents receiving a fraction of that?

Is Hearn claiming he was willing to lose millions promoting the Andrade-Charlo event? I'm not sure I believe him.

Or was the $7m part of a bigger multi-fight DAZN deal?

It was part of the US DAZN deal.

Hearn has lost DAZN plenty.. He paid Ramirez $4m to fight Hooker on DAZN, then paid Mikey Garcia $7m to fight Vargas (who was paid $3m)..

https://www.fightsports.tv/hearn-makes- ... ight-deal/

DAZN’s (recent) middleweight roster included names, such as Danny Jacobs, GGG, Canelo, Jaime Munguia, Billy Joe Saunders, Chris Eubank Jr., David Lemieux etc.

If Eddie Hearn can make money matchmaking Andrade against those guys, then Demetrius would be facing fellow stablemates, but he isn't.

Eddie Hearn has already conceded (during an iFLT TV interview) that he loses money promoting Andrade's events.

Since mods have not done my request yet about deleting my account...Checking in to see what lies EO is telling today. The fact is, none of the stablemates will agree to fight Andrade. NONE. The only two exceptions may be Jacobs, but him and Andrade are close friends, and have not heard of any offers with Limieux, which is a joke fight anyway. Problem solved. You (EO) will cry duck for anyone, but will not, for some reason, cry duck when Mall Charlo does it.
I've explained before about the Mell Charlo situation before...8-9 yrs ago? Derevenchenko has the same trainer and won't allow him to fight Andrade, Lara most recently turned Andrade down not the other way around. It's a circle jerk with EO, and Thatcher is his pivot man. Both are pathetic trolls. Peace - out.

[margaret thatcher]

andrade gets a shot at mell, pulls out of the fight to face a weaker opponent

andrade fights trash like jason quigley, but wont fight arguably his best opponent ever, jani


ya, it's everyone elses fault, andrade's done everything right lol