‘English’ delicate digs at Fury/Saunders/Davison?

[coghaugen11]

Chris Eubank Sr answered ‘no comment’ regarding his thoughts on who his son’s (Chris Jr) next opponent might be and also Fury-Wilder III, however he did delight in talking us through his wisdom gained from life experience.


What made the 16-year-old Chris Eubank choose boxing?

Boxing is the only vocation where you can rise from the bottom to the top.

I arrived in the South Bronx in the early eighties with nothing. I looked over at Manhattan in the distance and said, ‘I want to shop there one day. I want it to be nothing for me to go there and buy whatever I fancy on weekends.’

The only option was boxing. So I started from scratch and vowed to master it, using words of encouragement from the lyrics of Bob Marley.

In less than 10 years I would be casually Concording to Manhattan with my then-wife on Saturdays.

Boxing, boxing, boxing.


What impression do you believe you made on the sport?

In a fight you cannot win, stay in there. Get up. Take more.


Biggest lesson?

In life terms, Karma. It’s real. If you’re done wrong by somebody, then do good to them, or it will only come back again.

I should know. I’ve been from the bottom to the top and back to the bottom, back to the top and back to the bottom, over and again more than anyone.

I am now at my happy medium.


What caused your plummets do you believe?

Like I said, the Karmic wheel of the universe. Only give out goodness and practice humility and you’re good to go. Though that is easier said than done. It took me 50 years to realise and master.

I was locked in a cell on a concrete bed in isolation at 13 in a secure unit, wandering how I was going to be somebody. By 15 I’m making £900 a week selling Versace, Armani and Rayban and wearing Burberry, when the average wage packet was £60.

At 16 I’m in the burnt-out Bronx; graffiti-ville during the crack cocaine epidemic. My dinner was rotten bananas. My breakfast was raw eggs. I’m the caretaker/cleaner of a boxing gym falling apart. I’m on my own because my mother is working as a live-in nurse.

How am I going to be somebody? At 18 I’ve clawed my way to boxing at the Garden as an amateur. I can’t win so what do I do? I bite my opponents shoulder. A despicable act.

At 21 I’m sleeping on my brothers couch in Brighton and all the leading London promoters have rejected me. By 1990 I’ve beaten Nigel Benn for the title in a war of attrition.

By 25 I’m in torment and despair at having left Michael Watson in a coma and a very unfortunate road accident shortly after. Crying myself to sleep at night.

By 1993, 1994 Michael Watson is out of a coma and progressing. I’m fighting at Old Trafford and signing eight-figure TV deals.

By ‘96, I’m out of retirement and every UK broadcaster has rejected me.

After I fought Carl Thompson in Manchester, I’m a National Hero in my beloved United Kingdom. In the mid-2000s, I’m bankrupt. By 2010, the only possession in the world I have left is a Peterbilt US truck. And so and so forth.

I’ve come to understand that you embrace wrongness done towards you because goodness will come from it if you respond in kind.

I spent £2million of my own money - closer to £10million in today’s rate - building 69 flats for the homeless in the mid-90s. Within six months they were graffiti-filled crack dens. I left the project to rot - I shouldn’t of done that.


Do you believe there are too many belts today?

Yeah, the only way you can distinguish yourself if politics won’t allow uniting them all together is to keep winning and prove yourself a complete fighter by beating all styles in the overall top 10 world contenders.

Many can pick up a belt of some kind. But 10 defences of the title proves you are genuine world class. 15 world title wins is another level, and history suggests that 20 world title wins is elite.


Can the fighters of today compete with fighters of yesteryear?

I see fitness, I see nutrition. I see physical strength and jumping jacks. I don’t see the technical ability that I saw Roberto Duran, Mike Tyson, Mike McCallum and James Toney possess.

I don’t see the ring generalship of Roy Jones Jr from these Crawfords or Spences.

I wasn’t doing push ups or weightlifting or sprint the 100 metres, I was concerned with a good few hours straight each day of drilling boxing techniques when I was coming up. Trying to get the pivots right, the balance, the side stepping, the weaving, the combination punching, the angles, the footwork....

I would spar at 100% contact. Not tap spar. These were genuine fights. That’s why I could catch a jab without thinking about it, slip a punch without prior thought and actually counter-punch without prior movement and without blocking.

That’s why I could absorb a punch without telegraphing pain.

I don’t think fighters today are doing this. I have to be careful what I say.... What I will say is that elders are not respected and parents are not honoured in this generation. To detriment.

Why do you think Chris Eubank never got a tattoo? That was right up my street. I always remember my mother telling me as a child not to write things on my hands with pens, which I had a habit of.

[coghaugen11]

How he fought Sugar Boy Malinga after nearly killing Watson and just a week prior to this killing someone with his Range Rover (!) I’ll never know!



He seemed to be front and back page news before and after his first half-dozen WBO title fights.

(the 89-92 Malinga was Malinga’s best, with the div was much stronger)

[coghaugen11]

Boxrec has the location wrong for Eubank-Malinga.

It was the opening night of the newly built National Indoor Arena. They have it down as the NEC.

[JamesPhilips]

English is starting to grate on me. Always finding an excuse to say something vaguely controversial so he can be talked about. But as always ending up talking about himself.

[coghaugen11]

English is starting to grate on me. Always finding an excuse to say something vaguely controversial so he can be talked about. But as always ending up talking about himself.

He’s ‘very careful what he says’

[mickey1975]

English is starting to grate on me. Always finding an excuse to say something vaguely controversial so he can be talked about. But as always ending up talking about himself.

James, we almost went a day without response to this garbage....

[coghaugen11]

They say truth hurts the weak.

[JamesPhilips]

English is starting to grate on me. Always finding an excuse to say something vaguely controversial so he can be talked about. But as always ending up talking about himself.

James, we almost went a day without response to this garbage....

Lol

[Coco]

With think the mods should put Eubank threads in the boxers of the past section.

[Boxerbeetle]

With think the mods should put Eubank threads in the boxers of the past section.

Maybe we should have an entirely new section of the forum just called ‘Eubank’? Stick them all in there.

[coghaugen11]

I thought it would be an interesting discussion on old school vs new school

Calzaghe-Lacy for instance. One employed sports scientists, the other ran in the valleys and trained in a shed

[Steveh583]

With think the mods should put Eubank threads in the boxers of the past section.

thats a great idea

[Deserter]

With think the mods should put Eubank threads in the boxers of the past section.

thats a great idea

Maybe just start a 'Posters of the Past' section and put Coghaugen in there? Can ramble on about Eubank to his heart's content while the tumbleweed just blows through...

[Counter-puncher]

I thought it would be an interesting discussion on old school vs new school

Calzaghe-Lacy for instance. One employed sports scientists, the other ran in the valleys and trained in a shed

There is actually an interesting discussion to be had about too much sports science/S&C versus concentrating on boxing skills, had you simply cut and pasted that particular quote and used it as a point for discussion I imagine it would have got responses. unfortunately, as it was included amongst the usual rambling unfocused Eubank monologue, and in the context of your posting history, people just took it as (yet another) thread from you intended as a Eubank-fluffing paean, and the substantive point that might otherwise have been taken from the thread was obscured.

[Boxerbeetle]

I thought it would be an interesting discussion on old school vs new school

Calzaghe-Lacy for instance. One employed sports scientists, the other ran in the valleys and trained in a shed

There is actually an interesting discussion to be had about too much sports science/S&C versus concentrating on boxing skills, had you simply cut and pasted that particular quote and used it as a point for discussion I imagine it would have got responses. unfortunately, as it was included amongst the usual rambling unfocused Eubank monologue, and in the context of your posting history, people just took it as (yet another) thread from you intended as a Eubank-fluffing paean, and the substantive point that might otherwise have been taken from the thread was obscured.

I believe that particular topic was thoroughly and conclusively covered by Rocky IV anyway.

[coghaugen11]

Most of these keyboard trolls have never stepped foot in a gym in their life though.

[dookus]

Most of these keyboard trolls have never stepped foot in a gym in their life though.

Matthew, that's quite enough about Mr Eubank. Why don't you tell us about your own boxing journey for a change?

[coghaugen11]

Most of these keyboard trolls have never stepped foot in a gym in their life though.

Matthew, that's quite enough about Mr Eubank. Why don't you tell us about your own boxing journey for a change?

Wrong person.

Why don’t we ask Michael, born in 75, what he got to jail for each time?

[dookus]

Most of these keyboard trolls have never stepped foot in a gym in their life though.

Matthew, that's quite enough about Mr Eubank. Why don't you tell us about your own boxing journey for a change?

Wrong person.

Why don’t we ask Michael, born in 75, what he got to jail for each time?

Nah, more interested to hear about your boxing experience

[coghaugen11]

Nah mate Michael of 75 has been there, seen it, done it, got the t-shirt and is either off his fornicating rocker, detached or simply trolling in some mid life crisis

He’s the man