The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time

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Why ain't nobody talking about the great George Dixon?

Let's talk about him!
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Your way is wrong. You're incredibly stubborn and stupid. A pitiful creature.
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elmersalsa wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 18:58
Ambling Alp II wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 10:42
elmersalsa wrote: 29 Jun 2021, 17:27

There is no mistake.
Yes there was. To calculate KO%, you have to divide the the Ko's by the amount of fights. What is you did is simply wrong. It isn't matter of opinion. It is a fact.

In the past when it comes to math, you have said it is your criteria. You are misusing the word criteria. This is math. You have to do it this way, or you are doing it wrong. That is a fact.

To explain it another way, in baseball, there is a way to figure out batting average. You divide the hits by the at bats. That is simply how you do it. It is not "criteria".
An example of criteria would be to say that your criteria for rating the best hitters is to look at batting average, home runs, rbis, slugging %, on base percentage, and hits.
I am calculating by the wins and ko wins for a ko pct. It is my way to know how hard the fighter hits in his victories. It is my criteria. My way.
This doesn’t work.
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Wee Tommy wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 19:27
elmersalsa wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 18:58
Ambling Alp II wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 10:42

Yes there was. To calculate KO%, you have to divide the the Ko's by the amount of fights. What is you did is simply wrong. It isn't matter of opinion. It is a fact.

In the past when it comes to math, you have said it is your criteria. You are misusing the word criteria. This is math. You have to do it this way, or you are doing it wrong. That is a fact.

To explain it another way, in baseball, there is a way to figure out batting average. You divide the hits by the at bats. That is simply how you do it. It is not "criteria".
An example of criteria would be to say that your criteria for rating the best hitters is to look at batting average, home runs, rbis, slugging %, on base percentage, and hits.
I am calculating by the wins and ko wins for a ko pct. It is my way to know how hard the fighter hits in his victories. It is my criteria. My way.
This doesn’t work.
2 +2 =5
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Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 19:02 Your way is wrong. You're incredibly stubborn and stupid. A pitiful creature.
And you are a pussy hole :TU:
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Let's talk about the great George Dixon. Not about me. George Dixon, ok? What do you think about him?
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If anybody in here believes that former World Lightweight Champion Lew Jenkins is one of the top 100 all-time greatest punchers?

The Ring Magazine believes he is.

According to The Ring, then, he is not. He got 43% KO pct if we put into account all his 119 bouts.

For me, it gotta be 50% or better.
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elmersalsa wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 22:11
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 19:02 Your way is wrong. You're incredibly stubborn and stupid. A pitiful creature.
And you are a pussy hole :TU:
That lust is what makes you a Nancy. You don't think anyone around here respects your opinion, do you? You're a laughingstock, a clown for amusement
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Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 06:42
elmersalsa wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 22:11
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 19:02 Your way is wrong. You're incredibly stubborn and stupid. A pitiful creature.
And you are a pussy hole :TU:
That lust is what makes you a Nancy. You don't think anyone around here respects your opinion, do you? You're a laughingstock, a clown for amusement
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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I love me some Dixon.

Mason “The Line” Dixon (born July 4th, 1971) is an American former professional boxer who competed in the Heavyweight division during the 2000s. He reigned as the undisputed heavyweight champion from 2003 until 2011.

In 2006, Dixon had cleared out the entire heavyweight division accumulating a perfect record of 33-0 with 30 knockouts. Despite his dominance Dixon was not accepted by the fans or media as a legitimate champion due to his poor competition. The heavyweight division was viewed as being at its worst ever due to Dixon defeating all opponents with ease, the lack of challengers had the media and fans questioning if Dixon was that good or if it was just because of the weak competition. Dixon had never been tested or pushed to his limits, many fans believed that if he was pushed that he would lose.

During this time, ESPN aired a simulated fight between Rocky Balboa and Mason Dixon, both in their primes, Balboa won the simulated fight via knockout. Around the same time that the simulated fight aired, Balboa requested a boxing license, due to feeling that he had some frustrations locked away and that a few small, local fights would help him let those frustrations out. Dixon’s manager frightened that nobody wanted to watch Dixon fight anymore due to the predictable outcomes proposed that Dixon fight Balboa in an exhibition, expressing that it will help with Dixon’s image and make him millions. Reluctant at first, Dixon accepts.

Dixon breaks his hand in the second round of the fight, but he fights through, taking all that Rocky has to offer and wins the fight by split decision after 10 rounds. Dixon earned the respect of the media, fans and proved that he can battle through adversity.

Dixon is now 34-0 with 30 KO's. 77% KO percentage.
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Did he get to de la hoya yet?
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Why is mike McCallum so low?
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Jaywheel wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 13:08 I love me some Dixon.

Mason “The Line” Dixon (born July 4th, 1971) is an American former professional boxer who competed in the Heavyweight division during the 2000s. He reigned as the undisputed heavyweight champion from 2003 until 2011.

In 2006, Dixon had cleared out the entire heavyweight division accumulating a perfect record of 33-0 with 30 knockouts. Despite his dominance Dixon was not accepted by the fans or media as a legitimate champion due to his poor competition. The heavyweight division was viewed as being at its worst ever due to Dixon defeating all opponents with ease, the lack of challengers had the media and fans questioning if Dixon was that good or if it was just because of the weak competition. Dixon had never been tested or pushed to his limits, many fans believed that if he was pushed that he would lose.

During this time, ESPN aired a simulated fight between Rocky Balboa and Mason Dixon, both in their primes, Balboa won the simulated fight via knockout. Around the same time that the simulated fight aired, Balboa requested a boxing license, due to feeling that he had some frustrations locked away and that a few small, local fights would help him let those frustrations out. Dixon’s manager frightened that nobody wanted to watch Dixon fight anymore due to the predictable outcomes proposed that Dixon fight Balboa in an exhibition, expressing that it will help with Dixon’s image and make him millions. Reluctant at first, Dixon accepts.

Dixon breaks his hand in the second round of the fight, but he fights through, taking all that Rocky has to offer and wins the fight by split decision after 10 rounds. Dixon earned the respect of the media, fans and proved that he can battle through adversity.

Dixon is now 34-0 with 30 KO's. 77% KO percentage.
:lol: :clap: :yay: Best post of the thread!!!!!!!1
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imagine how sheety the division's gotta be for da champ to get 'oh he's actually legit' credit for a split decision over a 60 year old :oo
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yeah? Well you know, that's just like your criteria man.
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I think that he accomplished a lot. An 8 yr reign on top of the world has to mean something.
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mason's likeness to whoppers is uncanny

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There is not enough footage of the great George Dixon and that is understandable. But, it does npt take away the great accomplishments by this great champion.

Four-time world boxing champion in 2 different weight classes. He was undisputed champion 4 times.

In his last reign, he defended the featherweight crown 11 times. It took a great fighter like "Terrible" Terry McGovern. McGovern knocked him out in 4 rounds.
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The next great fighter: Ricardo "Finito" Lopez of Mexico. Considered by the boxing experts as the greatest minimum/strawweight fighter of all-time!
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Yet another undeserving fighter rated way too high. Lopez is better than Dixon or Jackson. Your list sucks.

Roman Gonzalez is much more accomished than Lopez .
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Onetimeonly wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 16:34 Yet another undeserving fighter rated way too high. Lopez is better than Dixon or Jackson. Your list sucks.

Roman Gonzalez is much more accomished than Lopez .
Five more years and we'll be in the top 10!!!! Be still my beating heart.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 16:34 Yet another undeserving fighter rated way too high. Lopez is better than Dixon or Jackson. Your list sucks.

Roman Gonzalez is much more accomished than Lopez .
Finito was a great fighter. Chocolatito is great one, but maybe for next year's edition list. Thanks.
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Now, We got:

100. Jersey Joe Walcott
99. Sonny Liston
98. Vicente Saldivar
97. Gene Fullmer
96. Mike Tyson
95. Eusebio Pedroza
94. Benny Lynch
93. Jack Britton
92. Tommy Ryan
91. Mike McCallum
90. James Toney
89. Tiger Flowers
88. Joe Brown
87. Ted "Kid" Lewis
86. Peter Jackson
85. Beau Jack
84. Lennox Lewis
83. Abe Attell
82. Holman Williams
81. Azumah Nelson
80. Erik "El Terrible" Morales
79. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
78. George Dixon

And now in my countdown, #77 is a great one:

Ricardo "Finito" Lopez! The greatest strawweight/minimumweight fighter ever!
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elmersalsa wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 20:48
Onetimeonly wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 16:34 Yet another undeserving fighter rated way too high. Lopez is better than Dixon or Jackson. Your list sucks.

Roman Gonzalez is much more accomished than Lopez .
Finito was a great fighter. Chocolatito is great one, but maybe for next year's edition list. Thanks.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 21:04
elmersalsa wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 20:48
Onetimeonly wrote: 06 Jul 2021, 16:34 Yet another undeserving fighter rated way too high. Lopez is better than Dixon or Jackson. Your list sucks.

Roman Gonzalez is much more accomished than Lopez .
Finito was a great fighter. Chocolatito is great one, but maybe for next year's edition list. Thanks.
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Finito is only rated at #77. That is not high. It is fair I think.
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