Teofimo Management wants Loma to agree to stipulations for rematch

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“We’ll do that fight tomorrow as long as Lomachenko agrees to fight for what we did. $1.35 million,” said Teofimo Lopez’s manager Dave McWater

“We took that first fight without a rematch clause and got treated like s*** throughout. So [Loma] can fight us on pay-per-view, take the same money we did, or otherwise go f*** himself,” said McWater.

“My wish is to have a rematch,” said Lomachenko about him wanting a second fight against Teofimo. “Of course, I want revenge. I will be happy to have a rematch.”

from BN24


I wonder if Loma will accept these stipulations would Teo rematch him?

I want to see this rematch and I think Loma would take it no matter what his purse would be. :box:
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Loma is on a min $3m with TR anyway.. So that's what he'll get BARE MINUMUM!

Even the first fight, he gave some of his purse to Teo I think.

Not the first time he did that (see Nic Walters)..

Loma doesn't care about money.

He gives his dad/trainer 40%-50% apparently.
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What Teo's manager has said, jsut sounds like a d!ckhead move.

Remember the fight was supposed to be ppv, it was supposed to have a packed out crowd, covid fvcked those plans up.

It ended up on regular ESPN, which ws great for fans, but meant the fighters had to settle for less pay.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 07:05 Loma is on a min $3m with TR anyway.. So that's what he'll get BARE MINUMUM!

Even the first fight, he gave some of his purse to Teo I think.

Not the first time he did that (see Nic Walters)..

Loma doesn't care about money.

He gives his dad/trainer 40%-50% apparently.
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What Teo's manager has said, jsut sounds like a d!ckhead move.

Remember the fight was supposed to be ppv, it was supposed to have a packed out crowd, covid fvcked those plans up.

It ended up on regular ESPN, which ws great for fans, but meant the fighters had to settle for less pay.
Yup , As well I think Loma is the type of guy that would fight for his pride&legacy and he would not care so much about money.

It seems to be like a warning pricing out strategy like Eubank Sr said that "the first dollar should always drop to the fighter" when GGG vs CEJr fight almost had to be made.
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apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 07:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 07:05 Loma is on a min $3m with TR anyway.. So that's what he'll get BARE MINUMUM!

Even the first fight, he gave some of his purse to Teo I think.

Not the first time he did that (see Nic Walters)..

Loma doesn't care about money.

He gives his dad/trainer 40%-50% apparently.
----

What Teo's manager has said, jsut sounds like a d!ckhead move.

Remember the fight was supposed to be ppv, it was supposed to have a packed out crowd, covid fvcked those plans up.

It ended up on regular ESPN, which ws great for fans, but meant the fighters had to settle for less pay.
Yup , As well I think Loma is the type of guy that would fight for his pride&legacy and he would not care so much about money.

It seems to be like a warning pricing out strategy like Eubank Sr said that "the first dollar should always drop to the fighter" when GGG vs CEJr fight almost had to be made.
Loma recently said he is more about Legacy than money.
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Bandog wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 10:26
apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 07:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 07:05 Loma is on a min $3m with TR anyway.. So that's what he'll get BARE MINUMUM!

Even the first fight, he gave some of his purse to Teo I think.

Not the first time he did that (see Nic Walters)..

Loma doesn't care about money.

He gives his dad/trainer 40%-50% apparently.
----

What Teo's manager has said, jsut sounds like a d!ckhead move.

Remember the fight was supposed to be ppv, it was supposed to have a packed out crowd, covid fvcked those plans up.

It ended up on regular ESPN, which ws great for fans, but meant the fighters had to settle for less pay.
Yup , As well I think Loma is the type of guy that would fight for his pride&legacy and he would not care so much about money.

It seems to be like a warning pricing out strategy like Eubank Sr said that "the first dollar should always drop to the fighter" when GGG vs CEJr fight almost had to be made.
Loma recently said he is more about Legacy than money.
Yup but he made a big mistake by not adding a rematch clause in the contract when he fought Lopez. Now Lopez is gonna act like a diva.
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This sounds like a racial double standard. I am going to make some banner and go chant some slogans somewhere in protest.
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H8Usernames wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 17:48 This sounds like a racial double standard. I am going to make some banner and go chant some slogans somewhere in protest.
make sure to carry a water bottle and sun screen for da heat out there though mate :oo
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I don't know about you lot, but ever since the fight I haven't had any suggestion that Lopez or his team want a rematch no matter the terms.
Of course I would like to see it, as we all would, I just don't get the feeling it will happen.
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i think they will eventually be up for it, but theyve been really obsessed with showing theyre in control of things
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I also get the sense they don't want to give it to him, and will really have to be coddled in order to do so.
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They will fight him probably , but they are afraid of losing, Loma was afraid of power first 5 or so rounds thats why he didn't go in but his rust was also and issue and even Teo said he knew it would take loma more rounds to catch his rhythm due to rust of covid layoff..This time Loma not as rusty but I still give Teo Edge, but Loma deserves a fight as do the fans, you want to get great boxing make this on a tribology..
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and no matter what if loma doesn't howl about money and they walk away he can say he gave it his best shot, and they are afraid of him, some balm in that..
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apollo creed wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 03:05 “We’ll do that fight tomorrow as long as Lomachenko agrees to fight for what we did. $1.35 million,” said Teofimo Lopez’s manager Dave McWater

“We took that first fight without a rematch clause and got treated like s*** throughout. So [Loma] can fight us on pay-per-view, take the same money we did, or otherwise go f*** himself,” said McWater.

“My wish is to have a rematch,” said Lomachenko about him wanting a second fight against Teofimo. “Of course, I want revenge. I will be happy to have a rematch.”

from BN24


I wonder if Loma will accept these stipulations would Teo rematch him?

I want to see this rematch and I think Loma would take it no matter what his purse would be. :box:
This isn't about pride. Lomachenko's team are paid percentages, they won't be happy accepting pay cuts. And Loma has a contract with Top Rank, which will pay him a guaranteed minimum.

Don't pretend that money doesn't mean anything to Lomachenko if you've never met him.

Lomachenko will very likely have to accept a smaller slice of the pie against Lopez, but he won't take the fight if he can face far eaiser foes for similar sums being offered to face Teofimo.
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I get Teofimo's stance here. The way he was dismissed, and treated as the B side coming into that fight. When you're the Champion and the ball is in your court it's your turn to call the shots. I get it completely.

Mosley turned down a 3rd fight with De La Hoya when they were still gonna pay De La Hoya more money even though he had beaten him twice. It still would've been the biggest fight available to him, but he turned it down just for the principle of the matter. I would've also.

You're not gonna treat me as the B Side when I'm the f*cking Champion.
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what if the biggest payday you can get if you turn down the fight is way smaller than what you'd get taking it though?

remember you get paid in dollars and not percents. getting 80 percent of 200k aint worth sheet compared to 30 percent of 5m . is it some hood, 'respeck' thing to care more about what the other guy gets than what you get?

i remember a dude once arguing, for a 50-50ish split type of fight, that a guy should turn down 1 billion if his opponent got 10 billion, just out of the principal of a fair split :lol:
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like, what do we think teo's stance should be if they are both offered 5m, instead of something like 3.5m teo and 1.5m loma?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 23:52 like, what do we think teo's stance should be if they are both offered 5m, instead of something like 3.5m teo and 1.5m loma?
Yea, if teo was self promoted then this claim would make sense. His company promote the fight, loma get his 1.5 and teo/teo promos get the rest.
but in this case i dont get it, just makes him seem negative like he dosent want the fight. Negotiate your purse, or a split, stop giving a fucck about your opponents purse...
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 23:43 what if the biggest payday you can get if you turn down the fight is way smaller than what you'd get taking it though?

remember you get paid in dollars and not percents. getting 80 percent of 200k aint worth sheet compared to 30 percent of 5m . is it some hood, 'respeck' thing to care more about what the other guy gets than what you get?

i remember a dude once arguing, for a 50-50ish split type of fight, that a guy should turn down 1 billion if his opponent got 10 billion, just out of the principal of a fair split :lol:
Dollars is definitely what matters, but Teofimo has plenty of options at 135 and 140. Those are pretty deep divisions right now with lots of solid big money fights to be made. Vasyl needs his revenge for his pride more than Teofimo needs to fight him again just because.

When you're treated as the B side of a promotion because the other guy is the Star and the Champion, and then you beat him, and you're not treated the same as him when you've taken his position you can see how that's a slap in the face to a guy.

I'm sure as time goes by they regret not taking the bigger money fight when the chance was there, but when you're young and impetuous, you want your respect that you earned.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 18:09
H8Usernames wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 17:48 This sounds like a racial double standard. I am going to make some banner and go chant some slogans somewhere in protest.
make sure to carry a water bottle and sun screen for da heat out there though mate :oo
I am going to spray passersby with the sunscreen and throw the waterbottle at a police vehicle.
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H8Usernames wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 01:25
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 18:09
H8Usernames wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 17:48 This sounds like a racial double standard. I am going to make some banner and go chant some slogans somewhere in protest.
make sure to carry a water bottle and sun screen for da heat out there though mate :oo
I am going to spray passersby with the sunscreen and throw the waterbottle at a police vehicle.
you can do that too, just make sure youre hydrated and dont burn mate :oo
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Lopez might be a good fighter, but he's a crap human being.

A chip off the ol block?
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i mean, i dont know that being a bit of a diva when it comes to boxing business makes him a crap human being

and tbf, how many other 23 year olds have we seen step up and take fights vs p4p oppositon lately? tanks, haney, and garcia all have their best wins over guys loma dominated. dudes got training wheels on, at least haney and garcia do
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Thomastearns wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 13:33 Lopez might be a good fighter, but he's a crap human being.

A chip off the ol block?
How do you figure. Seems like he's just employing a case of the 'ol cliche "What goes around, comes around"
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 23:43 i remember a dude once arguing, for a 50-50ish split type of fight, that a guy should turn down 1 billion if his opponent got 10 billion, just out of the principal of a fair split :lol:
Oh Yh I remember that.

Who was that?? :lol:

I’m sure it was on B&I section.
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As I said before Loma/his team made a big mistake by not adding a rematch clause in that contract. Lopez won that fight and now if Loma wants the rematch he'd have to accept Lopez's demands. It is what it is, and I as a fan I'd like to see this rematch in 2021. :box:
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