Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 9, 2021

[The Asleep Lamps]

Of the two matchup I prefer Joshua vs Usyk b/c I haven't already seen it.
Directly after their second bout, I didn't think Wilder could reverse the outcome. But now I think it might be interesting if Wilder doesn't get hit in the ear this time. He made so many excuses after, He should have just said he got hit in the ear.

[Thomastearns]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

He landed virtually nothing on the first 2 fights, so there's no reason for him to believe he can land any more in the next one.

Fury just isn't that easy to hit, and out of the big 3 we all know who the worst boxer is.

Joshua v Fury is still on, but we're going to have to wait.

Whatever chances Wilder may have, and he will have some, Joshua will have at least as twice as many.

Going 12 with with a slim fast AJ is not something Fury will be looking forward to.

Now there's a fight worth looking forwards to.

[cultus]

We don't need FURY vs WILDER, we need FURY vs JOSHUA.

[Enlightened-One]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

Paulie Malignaggi recently raised an excellent point.

Deontay Wilder is willing to engage in trash talk when Tyson Fury isn’t in front of him, when the Brit isn’t in the same room.

The American knows it's more difficult to summon up the nerve and the bravery to talk that same trash when the person is in the room.

Wilder doesn’t seem to have the backbone to engage in trash talking in front of Tyson Fury. He only seems to do it during interviews when the Brit isn’t around him.

He doesn’t have the guts to say those things to Tyson Fury’s face.

And this might be telling, because Deontay Wilder previously built his reputation using fear and intimidation.

This behaviour indicates a loss of confidence.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Alberto Puello-Rances Barthelemy Rescheduled, To Land On Fury-Wilder III Undercard July 24

The lengthy wait endured by Alberto Puello and Rances Barthelemy has been awarded with a considerable upgrade.

The pair of junior welterweights will collide July 24 on the undercard of the third fight between lineal/WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs) and former titlist Deontay Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs) at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The bout was confirmed by PBC representatives after appearing on the Nevada State Athletic Commission monthly agenda hearing, with the referee and judges to be selected during the session this Wednesday.

The bout takes place nearly 11 months after its previously scheduled date last September 6, to have appeared on a PBC on Fox telecast from a crowdless Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles. Those plans were scrapped after Puello was unable to secure a travel visa in time to make the trip from his native Dominican Republic. The September 6 PBC on Fox show moved forward, with Yordenis Ugas outpointing Abel Ramos to win a version of the WBA welterweight title.

Puello (18-0, 10 KOs) was supposed to make the first defense of his WBA interim junior welterweight title on the card. That moment instead came in a sixth-round knockout of Argentina’s Cristian Rafael Coria last December 17 in Santo Domingo. The 26-year-old southpaw is now based out of Las Vegas and set to make his U.S. debut.

Barthelemy (28-1-1, 14 KOs) was hoping for the fight with Puello to proceed as planned last September, as part of his penance for the awful taste left behind from his previous contest.

The former two-division titlist from Cuba—now also based out of Vegas—served as one half of an unwatchable 12-round draw with Robert Easter in their April 2019 lightweight battle. The vacant title fight was considered by the majority of observers to be one of the worst televised bouts in recent boxing history, with such criticism accepted by Barthelemy and Easter who both publicly vowed to do much better in their next respective fights.

“In debt with the public, I know,” Barthelemy claimed at the time. “September 6, I’m paying dues.”

That date came and went without such an opportunity. His stay-busy fight in place of a straightaway shot at Puello didn’t help matters any, as he outboxed Philippines’ All Rivera over ten rounds in a largely forgettable fight this past January on Fox from Shrine Auditorium & Expo Hall in Los Angeles.

Televised coverage for Puello-Barthelemy has yet to be finalized as this goes to publish. The evening’s main event between Fury and Wilder tops an all-heavyweight four-fight Pay-Per-View telecast jointly presented by ESPN+ and Fox Sports. The two entities also joined forces for Fury-Wilder II last February, with select undercard bouts offered simultaneously on ESPN2 and FS1.

[Bandog]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

He landed virtually nothing on the first 2 fights, so there's no reason for him to believe he can land any more in the next one.

Fury just isn't that easy to hit, and out of the big 3 we all know who the worst boxer is.

Joshua v Fury is still on, but we're going to have to wait.

Whatever chances Wilder may have, and he will have some, Joshua will have at least as twice as many.

Going 12 with with a slim fast AJ is not something Fury will be looking forward to.

Now there's a fight worth looking forwards to.

One thing hopefully they change is Wilder attacking Fury's body. Hard to miss that. Imagine getting hit to the liver by Wilder? If we don't get Fury vs Joshua, we'll get Wilder vs Joshua. Also a great fight.

[lazboy]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

He landed virtually nothing on the first 2 fights, so there's no reason for him to believe he can land any more in the next one.

Fury just isn't that easy to hit, and out of the big 3 we all know who the worst boxer is.

Joshua v Fury is still on, but we're going to have to wait.

Whatever chances Wilder may have, and he will have some, Joshua will have at least as twice as many.

Going 12 with with a slim fast AJ is not something Fury will be looking forward to.

Now there's a fight worth looking forwards to.

One thing hopefully they change is Wilder attacking Fury's body. Hard to miss that. Imagine getting hit to the liver by Wilder? If we don't get Fury vs Joshua, we'll get Wilder vs Joshua. Also a great fight.

Yep should be simple for him to land on Fury’s liver. What are we thinking, rd 1 Ko or does he give the audience a show and end things in rd 2?

[Enlightened-One]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

He landed virtually nothing on the first 2 fights, so there's no reason for him to believe he can land any more in the next one.

Fury just isn't that easy to hit, and out of the big 3 we all know who the worst boxer is.

Joshua v Fury is still on, but we're going to have to wait.

Whatever chances Wilder may have, and he will have some, Joshua will have at least as twice as many.

Going 12 with with a slim fast AJ is not something Fury will be looking forward to.

Now there's a fight worth looking forwards to.

One thing hopefully they change is Wilder attacking Fury's body. Hard to miss that. Imagine getting hit to the liver by Wilder? If we don't get Fury vs Joshua, we'll get Wilder vs Joshua. Also a great fight.

According to CompuBox, only 10% of Wilder’s punches landed are body shots.

Body punches are rarely utilised by fighters, like Wilder, that are lacking skill, because they’re incredibly difficult to land without getting hit in the face, due to the fact that it requires fighters to lower their hands, which means they’re high-risk punches to throw.

Malik Scott isn’t a miracle worker. He’s only been working with Wilder for a few months. There’s only so much he can achieve in such a short timeframe.

So I’d be surprised to see a veteran like Wilder completely change his game-plan by focussing on throwing shots to Fury’s body, because the American hasn’t got the pre-requisite skill set and timing to fight that way.

[lazboy]

I think what Bandogs trying to say is that now Wilder is with Malik Scott, Wilders able to unlock that inner master boxer, something which Breland didn’t allow. Breland only wanted Wilder to concentrate on power and kept his power level at maximum, But now that Malik Scott has given Wilder permission to use his master boxing skills, well, look out Fury. As bandog said, it’s going to very difficult for Wilder to miss Fury’s liver. But, the thing is, if Wilder has switched to Master boxer his power probably takes a back seat so he’ll probably need to accumulate on Fury’s liver to do any real damage. Depending how much Malik has adjusted Wilders levels to master boxing from power puncher, wilder could bringing usyk level power or below going into this match up. Anyway, that’s the way bandog sees it I believe. Great poster.

[The Asleep Lamps]

We don't need FURY vs WILDER, we need FURY vs JOSHUA.

Why is has to be in Saudi Arabia though? I'm thinking ENGLAND.
Joshua set the standard here when he immediately re matched Andy Ruiz. A lot of people thought that was a mistake at the time but he brought a different attitude to the rematch didn't he.

[cultus]

We don't need FURY vs WILDER, we need FURY vs JOSHUA.

Why is has to be in Saudi Arabia though? I'm thinking ENGLAND.
Joshua set the standard here when he immediately re matched Andy Ruiz. A lot of people thought that was a mistake at the time but he brought a different attitude to the rematch didn't he.

Wasn't the fight in Saudi Arabia because of a Covid or BIG MONEY? Other than that why the fight isn't in England is strange.
I like Joshua.. don't really care for Wilder.

[The Asleep Lamps]

Fury vs Joshua being cancelled the same day it was announced was such a boxing sort of moment. After months of deliberating and finger pointing, I know the location must've had many scratching their heads though.
Eddie Hearn can put on Canelo vs Saunders event then he has to do the same for this fight, in England. It must be in England! assuming they both win their next fights.

[IRONFIST]

Fury vs Joshua being cancelled the same day it was announced was such a boxing sort of moment. After months of stalling and finger pointing, I know the location had many scratching their heads though.
Eddie Hearn can put on Canelo vs Saunders event then he has to do the same for this fight, in England. It must be in England! assuming they both win their next fights.

Sadly Fast Eddie puts money in his pocket first ahead of the fans. Still got a feeling Joshua will lose to Usyk.

[Bandog]

I think what Bandogs trying to say is that now Wilder is with Malik Scott, Wilders able to unlock that inner master boxer, something which Breland didn’t allow. Breland only wanted Wilder to concentrate on power and kept his power level at maximum, But now that Malik Scott has given Wilder permission to use his master boxing skills, well, look out Fury. As bandog said, it’s going to very difficult for Wilder to miss Fury’s liver. But, the thing is, if Wilder has switched to Master boxer his power probably takes a back seat so he’ll probably need to accumulate on Fury’s liver to do any real damage. Depending how much Malik has adjusted Wilders levels to master boxing from power puncher, wilder could bringing usyk level power or below going into this match up. Anyway, that’s the way bandog sees it I believe. Great poster.

You have a point, it obviously takes a lot of skill when in close to avoid Furys rabbit punches and forearms. Only one of us will be laughing at the end of the fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The referee will be veteran Mike Ortega

[candyslim]

I think what Bandogs trying to say is that now Wilder is with Malik Scott, Wilders able to unlock that inner master boxer, something which Breland didn’t allow. Breland only wanted Wilder to concentrate on power and kept his power level at maximum, But now that Malik Scott has given Wilder permission to use his master boxing skills, well, look out Fury. As bandog said, it’s going to very difficult for Wilder to miss Fury’s liver. But, the thing is, if Wilder has switched to Master boxer his power probably takes a back seat so he’ll probably need to accumulate on Fury’s liver to do any real damage. Depending how much Malik has adjusted Wilders levels to master boxing from power puncher, wilder could bringing usyk level power or below going into this match up. Anyway, that’s the way bandog sees it I believe. Great poster.

I'm not sure whether you are being ironic or not. Usually it jumps out at me and my inability to be certain is concerning to me. I believe so but there is a strong element of doubt: Maybe you do believe Wilder can go from one-trick pony to master boxer in few months at the age of 36.

Breland was a much superior boxer to Scott but that doesn't mean he is necessarily a better trainer, and now that Wilder has suffered humiliation in the ring it's possible he is now more willing to listen to what he's being told.

I'm still sceptical that Wilder might be receptive to the idea he can learn from a man who failed to see out the first round when they fought. That suggests a previously unsuspected level of wisdom and humility.

[candyslim]

Fury is definitely not afraid of Wilder.

I can't say the same for Wilder.

Paulie Malignaggi recently raised an excellent point.

Deontay Wilder is willing to engage in trash talk when Tyson Fury isn’t in front of him, when the Brit isn’t in the same room.

The American knows it's more difficult to summon up the nerve and the bravery to talk that same trash when the person is in the room.

Wilder doesn’t seem to have the backbone to engage in trash talking in front of Tyson Fury. He only seems to do it during interviews when the Brit isn’t around him.

He doesn’t have the guts to say those things to Tyson Fury’s face.

And this might be telling, because Deontay Wilder previously built his reputation using fear and intimidation.

This behaviour indicates a loss of confidence.

I don't see any change there EO, he's always been that way. His verbal abuse of Joshua stopped as soon as he and AJ were on the same continent never mind the same room.

I'd wager a substantial sum that he'd have nothing to say to Dillian Whyte if they were in close proximity either. He can give it large to the likes of Dominic Breazeale because he knows the guy is no threat to him.

[lazboy]

I think what Bandogs trying to say is that now Wilder is with Malik Scott, Wilders able to unlock that inner master boxer, something which Breland didn’t allow. Breland only wanted Wilder to concentrate on power and kept his power level at maximum, But now that Malik Scott has given Wilder permission to use his master boxing skills, well, look out Fury. As bandog said, it’s going to very difficult for Wilder to miss Fury’s liver. But, the thing is, if Wilder has switched to Master boxer his power probably takes a back seat so he’ll probably need to accumulate on Fury’s liver to do any real damage. Depending how much Malik has adjusted Wilders levels to master boxing from power puncher, wilder could bringing usyk level power or below going into this match up. Anyway, that’s the way bandog sees it I believe. Great poster.

I'm not sure whether you are being ironic or not. Usually it jumps out at me and my inability to be certain is concerning to me. I believe so but there is a strong element of doubt: Maybe you do believe Wilder can go from one-trick pony to master boxer in few months at the age of 36.

Breland was a much superior boxer to Scott but that doesn't mean he is necessarily a better trainer, and now that Wilder has suffered humiliation in the ring it's possible he is now more willing to listen to what he's being told.

I'm still sceptical that Wilder might be receptive to the idea he can learn from a man who failed to see out the first round when they fought. That suggests a previously unsuspected level of wisdom and humility.

I never said those things, Bandog did.

[candyslim]

I was referring to what you said. I know he's serious.

[lazboy]

I was referring to what you said. I know he's serious.

For the record, I wasn’t being serious.

[candyslim]

Thank you Lazboy for confirming. My instincts were right but I must admit you had me going.

[Winter king]

Wilder.is like a general who lost every battle but won all the wars with a nuke and he thinks he is some great general. He doesnt even dare to take his headphones off. He has ptsd. I am pretty sure he will soil his pants in the ring.

[Ruthless-RKO]

COVID-19 outbreak in Tyson Fury camp jeopardizing fight vs. Deontay Wilder, sources say

There's a COVID-19 outbreak in Tyson Fury's camp, which will inevitably cause his July 24 heavyweight championship fight against Deontay Wilder to be postponed, sources told ESPN on Thursday.

No official determination has yet been made on whether the fight, set to be held at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas and broadcast on ESPN+ PPV, will proceed as planned.

The fight is a joint pay-per-view with FOX, and that network has the Manny Pacquiao-Errol Spence Jr. PPV on Aug. 21, so it's likely Fury-Wilder 3 would be moved to September, sources told ESPN.

"It was a crazy roller coaster toward this fight," Fury said at last month's news conference in Los Angeles to promote the fight. "I always say, 'You're never fighting someone until you're in the ring opposite them.'"

Fury and Wilder have already competed against each other twice. The first meeting came in December 2018 and ended in a disputed draw. Despite suffering two knockdowns -- including one in the final round -- most observers believed Fury deserved the nod.

The "Gypsy King" left no doubt in the rematch in February 2020, scoring two knockdowns himself en route to a seventh-round stoppage after Wilder's cornerman, Mark Breland, threw in the towel.

Neither Fury, 32, nor Wilder has appeared in the ring since. Wilder, 35, exercised his contractual right to a third fight afterward, but COVID barred Top Rank (Fury's promoter) and PBC from staging the fight before a full audience.

The gate for the second bout generated $16,916,440 -- a Nevada record for a heavyweight title tilt. The pay-per-view, priced at $79.99, raked in nearly 900,000 buys, sources told ESPN.

Top Rank and PBC attempted to stage the bout in December after October was deemed unfeasible due to COVID restrictions, but the unexpected resumption of the college football season left few available PPV dates in the final month of 2020 with two networks involved.

Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs) and his team then considered the rematch clause expired and pushed forward with negotiations for a mega fight with fellow Englishman Anthony Joshua that would crown an undisputed champion. The sides agreed to a deal in May with Fury announcing on May 16 the fight would take place Aug. 14 in Saudi Arabia.

In the background, an independent arbitrator, Daniel Weinstein, was determining whether Fury indeed owed Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs) a third fight. Top Rank chairman Bob Arum was deposed, as was his stepson, Top Rank president Todd duBoef. So, too, was PBC founder Al Haymon, Wilder's manager Shelly Finkel and PBC executive Bruce Binkow. Fury and Wilder also gave depositions.

On May 17, one day after Fury announced he would meet Joshua in August, Weinstein ruled that he owed Wilder another fight.

"I didn't feel any way about Fury trying to negotiate another fight," Wilder said at the presser last month in Los Angeles. "We knew we were in the right and we knew they couldn't run."

It now appears likely Wilder will have to wait a little while longer for that chance at revenge.

[The Asleep Lamps]

I'll go out on a limb here and make the prediction that the fight won't be postponed. Fury has already been vaccinated.
This will be a win for the vaccine.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I'll go out on a limb here and make the prediction that the fight won't be postponed. Fury has already been vaccinated.
This will be a win for the vaccine.

BBC did report it may still go ahead on this date.