Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 9, 2021

Who wins the trilogy?

Poll ended at 09 Oct 2021, 07:41

Fury - Decision
39
18%
Fury - T/KO
127
59%
DRAW
3
1%
Wilder - T/KO
45
21%
Wilder - Decision
2
1%
 
Total votes: 216

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - July 24, 2021 (Postponed?)

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Just get a vaccine already!!!! :witzend:

Here’s hoping that the BBC continues to be a bastion of reliability on all things newsworthy.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - July 24, 2021 (Postponed?)

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After Wilder loses again, will he bring an excuse, that Fury breathed with poisined covid air on him?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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John Fury revealed that an unnamed sparring partner was responsible for bringing the infectious disease into training camp.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 03:37 John Fury revealed that an unnamed sparring partner was responsible for bringing the infectious disease into training camp.
Could well be parker.. he has it, andy lee has it, a featherweight has it and fury has it. interesting to see if efe and Jar get it, seems likely.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III ordered by Sept 15, what happens now?

The heavyweight pair look set to trade blows finally in October as unworkable Las Vegas dates in August and September got hampered further by fights involving Manny Pacquiao and Canelo Alvarez.

But what happens if the battle is delayed until October as arbitration ruled Fury vs. Wilder III must take place before September 15th.

Well, the likelihood is there will be concessions in the contract that deals with any postponement. In a nutshell, an unforeseen Covid outbreak will not break the agreement to the point where sanctions will hit Fury.

The World Boxing Council will also look favorable on Fury, and he will keep his title without trouble.

Fury is still yet to defend any world title he’s ever won after pulling out of two defenses against Wladimir Klitschko in 2016 after ripping the belts from the Ukrainian in November 2015.

Eventually, Klitschko was awarded his WBA “super” strap back and defended it in a massive unification against Anthony Joshua in 2017.

This time around, “The Gypsy King” was due to put the WBC championship he took from Wilder on the line. It will still be the case for any new date.

TYSON FURY VACCINE

Wilder and his team are massively disappointed by the delay, though. Co-manager Shelly Finkel told WBN he believes Fury should have got his second dose of the vaccine – as “The Bronze Bomber” did.

“If Tyson Fury and his team did what they should have done and said they had done, this fight would be on and not off,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News.
“Deontay did what he was supposed to. He got his two Pfizer vaccines. So did the members of his team.

“He’s ready to go, and this is because Fury did not do what he was supposed to,” he added.

Fury vs. Wilder III has a blank canvas in October to choose from at present. Both sides will expect to get together shortly to thrash out the details of the rescheduling.

Joe Joyce, who was due to be part of a massive night on both sides of the Atlantic, is still facing Carlos Takam on the original date.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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I can't help but question whether Fury really has Covid-19.

He has a history of pulling out of fights, he's very erratic in his behavior. On June 15th, Arum said Fury was fully vaccinated, surely by now all the top athletes are.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 08:54 I can't help but question whether Fury really has Covid-19.

He has a history of pulling out of fights, he's very erratic in his behavior. Arum said Fury was fully vaccinated, surely by this time all the top athletes are.
At the very least it shows how stupid and reckless team Fury is. Sub in Joshua if it isn't signed, not Whyte.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Bandog wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 09:00
Perkin Warbeck wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 08:54 I can't help but question whether Fury really has Covid-19.

He has a history of pulling out of fights, he's very erratic in his behavior. Arum said Fury was fully vaccinated, surely by this time all the top athletes are.
At the very least it shows how stupid and reckless team Fury is. Sub in Joshua if it isn't signed, not Whyte.
Imagine the Fury-AJ fight was on and Fury tested +.. :brick:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Hopefully Top Rank won't have any Covid cards to play next year.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 06:47 Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
The only reason these belts haven't been unified is that Wilder's management haven't wanted to risk their "Baby champion" (Finkel's words not mine) against specifically Wlad but in practice, anyone claiming to be a fellow belt-holder.

He has turned down huge sums of money rather than face a risky opponent and before you say "What about Fury?" he was regarded as a fat, couchbound , manically depressed slob, addicted to booze, cocaine and junk-food i.e. a sheep to the slaughter ... just like all the others but with a much better resume.

Fury would never have got the shot if Finkel knew what he was getting Deontay into.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Fury had to defend England's honor. Well when there's one heavyweight champion is when I'll consider sending any of my money in Eddie Hearn's direction.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Why is that then? Joshua and Whyte have been pursuing Wilder for years now but they looked a lot more intimidating to Finkel than a guy doing a beached whale impression.

When Hearn first proposed the Wilder v Whyte fight he was offering seven million if memory serves. Not sure whether that was £ or USD but at the time Wilder's highest payday by some distance was 2.1 million dollars against Ortiz first time around.

I never understood why Wilder wouldn't want to get paid approx the sum total of everything he'd been paid up until that point, just for one fight against a fighter everyone thought he could beat.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 03:37 John Fury revealed that an unnamed sparring partner was responsible for bringing the infectious disease into training camp.
No, Team Fury is responsible, period.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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so was it efe or jah jah binx :oo
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 08:54 I can't help but question whether Fury really has Covid-19.

He has a history of pulling out of fights, he's very erratic in his behavior. On June 15th, Arum said Fury was fully vaccinated, surely by now all the top athletes are.


I strongly suspect it's a case of more mind games from Tyson 'Batman' Fury.

He seems to rather enjoy playing with opponents.

Messing with their minds if you want. Detailing Wilders preparation is a great way to do it.

Totally unethical, but Fury was never one known for ethics.


As for the vaccine (any of its dubious iterations), you'd be very trusting to think if it offered you any protection at all.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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candyslim wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 10:59
The Asleep Lamps wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 06:47 Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
The only reason these belts haven't been unified is that Wilder's management haven't wanted to risk their "Baby champion" (Finkel's words not mine) against specifically Wlad but in practice, anyone claiming to be a fellow belt-holder.

He has turned down huge sums of money rather than face a risky opponent and before you say "What about Fury?" he was regarded as a fat, couchbound , manically depressed slob, addicted to booze, cocaine and junk-food i.e. a sheep to the slaughter ... just like all the others but with a much better resume.

Fury would never have got the shot if Finkel knew what he was getting Deontay into.
Nice Post Slim :TU:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 06:47 Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
A fight like Joshua/Wilder needs big time to prep, OTT promotion, its Matchrooms style, not that half arsed whimper that Fury/Wilder 3 has been, as for Eddie being part of the problem, i think you'll find Wilder and Fury knocked back fights with AJ
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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Whyte as a replacement isn't a reasonable solution either. It was a stupid tweet. Eddie is younger than me so I can call him a little punk :-P . Joshua for that matter acted more like a diva than a champion imo(like Mayweather and Pacquiao all over again). But the consequence is that I have given DAZN some money, but less than I might have had the two of them not insulted the American. It is like this, I'd like to see Canelo vs Plant live on my tv but I don't need to see it.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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As expected, not many here will admit team Furys incompetence.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 06:47 Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
If wilder fought whyte, or anyone else, it would nullify the rematch clause and fury/aj could go ahead. Nice attempt.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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in that case let's f@cking have whyte vs wilder and aj-fury :yay:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 03:04 in that case let's f@cking have whyte vs wilder and aj-fury :yay:
:TU:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 2021

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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 16:20
candyslim wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 10:59
The Asleep Lamps wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 06:47 Hearn offered for Whyte to fill in as the opponent but somebody pointed out that Joshua vs Usyk isn't signed yet. Make Joshua the replacement. Yeah yeah yeah I don't care if it's impractical. :OhYes:
Eddie Hearn has always been more eager to make Wilder vs Whyte than Joshua Wilder. He is part of the problem here tbh. Part of the reason these belts haven't been unified.
The only reason these belts haven't been unified is that Wilder's management haven't wanted to risk their "Baby champion" (Finkel's words not mine) against specifically Wlad but in practice, anyone claiming to be a fellow belt-holder.

He has turned down huge sums of money rather than face a risky opponent and before you say "What about Fury?" he was regarded as a fat, couchbound , manically depressed slob, addicted to booze, cocaine and junk-food i.e. a sheep to the slaughter ... just like all the others but with a much better resume.

Fury would never have got the shot if Finkel knew what he was getting Deontay into.
Nice Post Slim :TU:
Thanks Kiwi. People can hardly deny the sheer number of different excuses Wilder and his supporters have made about the Fury loss, but they remain obstinately blinkered to the fact that his whole career has been littered with excuses, usually as to why he hasn't fought this guy or that guy.

To me it's obvious: You look at the resumés of the other guys, be that Povetkin, Whyte, or Joshua etc. and you ask yourself whether these are fighters who shirk tough fights, or are they guys willing to fight anyone for the right money? Then you look at Deontay, at the list of cab drivers he has fought, and you ask which ot them is the reason the fight never happened? It isn't what people say, it's what they do. The resumé doesn't lie.

It beggars belief that there are 'to this day' people who are not unintelligent, yet who persist in their belief that it's always everybody's fault but Wilder‘s, even though he is the common denominator every time. Those same people state with assurance that Wilder knocks out Whyte, Joshua, Ruiz, everybody, based on them conducting the fight in their own head. It has to be a scenario played out in one's head because you're never going to see it in the ring.

Disclaimer: Fury is entirely to blame for the present debacle. Let me be clear about that (although I wouldn't rule out some kind of mind-games) That isn't what I'm talking about.
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