Dillian Whyte's career path?

[Finkel]

At what point do they file a lawsuit to claw back all the years of sanctioning fees they paid to the WBC?

If there isn't a legitimate route to a title shot, what are they getting paid for?

[candyslim]

I remember Whyte Turned down fight against Ortiz and Pulev with some lame excuse ...

On the 25th April 2018, the WBC officially ordered the final eliminator between Luis Ortiz and Dillian Whyte.

The winner of this fight would acquire secondary mandatory challenger status (second in the queue to face Deontay Wilder, behind Dominic Breazeale - a man with a worse WBC ranking than Dillian Whyte).

Dillian Whyte refused to engage in the WBC final eliminator, because he had previously competed in a WBC eliminator against Dereck Chisora, had captured and successfully defended the WBC silver title twice and had been their highest-ranked title challenger for roughly one year.

Even though Dillian Whyte refused to participate in the WBC’s final eliminator, Eddie Hearn still tried to make the Luis Ortiz fight.

The Cuban allegedly declined the opportunity to face Dillian Whyte on the 28th July 2018, which was accompanied with a two million dollar purse offer, because he claimed the scheduled fight-date was too soon for him. However, Ortiz actually ended up fighting on that date anyway, when he engaged in the preposterous Razvan Cojanu mismatch.

Meanwhile, Dillian Whyte had to find an alternative opponent for his 28th July bout, so he chose to face an even better fighter instead, Joseph Parker (as per ESPN's & The RING's ratings).

Around the same timeframe, Dillian Whyte also rejected the opportunity to compete in an IBF final eliminator, against Kubrat Pulev, because he was only receiving a 25% purse split to compete on the Bulgarian’s home turf, which equated to a paltry $375K (as per the purse bid won by Epic Sports & Entertainment). The Bulgarian was being paid three times more than the Brit’s sum.

Kubrat Pulev ended up facing Hughie Fury in the IBF’s final eliminator, whereas Dillian Whyte fought Joseph Parker instead, with both the Brit & the Kiwi pocketing slightly more than $1.3m each.

Did you read that Boxtune? This accurately states what happened. I have also explained to you more than once why Dillian Whyte preferred to earn £13m was it, fighting Joseph Parker and cementing his status as a Sky PPV star in preference to going to the arse-end of nowhere (Sofia, Bulgaria) to earn peanuts for the right to fight his domestic rival and stablemate for 25% of the purse. Whyte will fight Joshua again at a time when it suits them both and will do a lot better than 25%.

You are talking sh1t by suggesting Whyte ducked Pulev but you will continue to post the same rubbish in a month or two no matter how patiently and how often we explain why you are being unreasonable and maligning a man who is up for fighting anybody (including Wilder on two weeks notice). It is not his fault that he doesn't look like Ajagba so you don't want him in your bed. That's no reason to hate him.

Whyte should fight the likes of Ruiz, Ortiz, Joyce, Yoka, Hrgovich, Hunter, etc.

You do realize Doc that if he did beat those guys he would have a better resumé than most of the World Heavyweight Champions in history.

Whyte is never going to be a world champion. He will however retire a very rich man with the affection and respect of all boxing fans who value a fighter that doesn't run away or hide behind Señor Sulaiman's skirt.

[bobcatbox]

At what point do they file a lawsuit to claw back all the years of sanctioning fees they paid to the WBC?

If there isn't a legitimate route to a title shot, what are they getting paid for?

Sanctioning the bout. I’m sure their backsides are covered this exact predicament.

[DrDuke]

Whyte should fight the likes of Ruiz, Ortiz, Joyce, Yoka, Hrgovich, Hunter, etc.

You do realize Doc that if he did beat those guys he would have a better resumé than most of the World Heavyweight Champions in history.

Whyte is never going to be a world champion. He will however retire a very rich man with the affection and respect of all boxing fans who value a fighter that doesn't run away or hide behind Señor Sulaiman's skirt.

Yeah, if he beats all of them, he'll be a bad, bad mofo. But it's hard to pick him over each of them.

[bobcatbox]

Whyte should fight the likes of Ruiz, Ortiz, Joyce, Yoka, Hrgovich, Hunter, etc.

You do realize Doc that if he did beat those guys he would have a better resumé than most of the World Heavyweight Champions in history.

Whyte is never going to be a world champion. He will however retire a very rich man with the affection and respect of all boxing fans who value a fighter that doesn't run away or hide behind Señor Sulaiman's skirt.

Yeah, if he beats all of them, he'll be a bad, bad mofo. But it's hard to pick him over each of them.

I’d take him over all of them except Ruiz and Hunter. Mike Hunter outboxes him and Ruiz would knock him out. Whyte vs Ortiz would be a slow, boring fight that is one I do not regret not being made.

[DrDuke]

You do realize Doc that if he did beat those guys he would have a better resumé than most of the World Heavyweight Champions in history.

Whyte is never going to be a world champion. He will however retire a very rich man with the affection and respect of all boxing fans who value a fighter that doesn't run away or hide behind Señor Sulaiman's skirt.

Yeah, if he beats all of them, he'll be a bad, bad mofo. But it's hard to pick him over each of them.

I’d take him over all of them except Ruiz and Hunter. Mike Hunter outboxes him and Ruiz would knock him out. Whyte vs Ortiz would be a slow, boring fight that is one I do not regret not being made.

I actually see all of the mentioned matchups pretty unpredictable. Ortiz can bang for sure, while Whyte often gets hurt, so it can turn to fun.

[candyslim]

@ Bobcat: That's why I am so fond of him and defend him from the infidel. Dillian is a good fighter but not a great one. He has a distinct air of vulnerability. Dillian knows this and he has often said that he is learning as he goes along.

To be a talent like Sugar Ray or Manny and to take on tough opposition is admirable but how much more admirable is it to take on quality opposition when your skills and your abilities leave quite a lot to be desired?

You may never wear that green belt for real Dillian but you'll do for me. A proper fighter.

[bobcatbox]

@ Bobcat: That's why I am so fond of him and defend him from the infidel. Dillian is a good fighter but not a great one. He has a distinct air of vulnerability. Dillian knows this and he has often said that he is learning as he goes along.

To be a talent like Sugar Ray or Manny and to take on tough opposition is admirable but how much more admirable is it to take on quality opposition when your skills and your abilities leave quite a lot to be desired?

You may never wear that green belt for real Dillian but you'll do for me. A proper fighter.

Indeed. Much respect is owed to him. I’ve always been salty the Wilder fight was never made. Im a Wilder fan and would’ve hoped to see Whyte put on the canvas, but he’s more willing than most to fight any top 10 heavy.

[candyslim]

Well said my friend. Your prediction will never be tested but that won't be for a want of effort on Dillian's part.

[SportsRatings]

To be a talent like Sugar Ray or Manny and to take on tough opposition is admirable but how much more admirable is it to take on quality opposition when your skills and your abilities leave quite a lot to be desired?

You must absolutely love Chisora then!

[candyslim]

I do hold Delboy in high regard, yes and for pretty much the same reasons. Very perceptive of you.

[gilgamesh]

Apart from a very brief blip (i.e. several months between the Povetkin defeat and victory), Dillian Whyte has been the WBC’s highest-rated heavyweight contender since November 2017.

And now that the Fury-Wilder rematch has been postponed until October, it seems inevitable that Dillian Whyte will soon be “celebrating” his four-year wait for his long-overdue WBC title shot.

To make matters worse, Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed yesterday that the eventual winner of Fury-Wilder III won’t have to perform a mandatory defence of their WBC title, meaning that ‘The Body Snatcher’ doesn’t even possess mandatory challenger status., despite holding the Interim title.

Assuming Tyson Fury beats Wilder and then faces Anthony Joshua twice during 2022, then it’s extremely likely that Dillian Whyte won’t receive his title shot until 2023.

It’s not as if Dillian Whyte can gain a title shot via one of the other governing bodies either, because AJ’s committed to facing Oleksandr Usyk next, closely following by two bouts against Tyson Fury.

Where does Dillian Whyte go from here?

One thing he could do is throw his interim belt in the trash. If it ain't gonna get him a shot, what's he need it for?

[Enlightened-One]

Apart from a very brief blip (i.e. several months between the Povetkin defeat and victory), Dillian Whyte has been the WBC’s highest-rated heavyweight contender since November 2017.

And now that the Fury-Wilder rematch has been postponed until October, it seems inevitable that Dillian Whyte will soon be “celebrating” his four-year wait for his long-overdue WBC title shot.

To make matters worse, Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed yesterday that the eventual winner of Fury-Wilder III won’t have to perform a mandatory defence of their WBC title, meaning that ‘The Body Snatcher’ doesn’t even possess mandatory challenger status., despite holding the Interim title.

Assuming Tyson Fury beats Wilder and then faces Anthony Joshua twice during 2022, then it’s extremely likely that Dillian Whyte won’t receive his title shot until 2023.

It’s not as if Dillian Whyte can gain a title shot via one of the other governing bodies either, because AJ’s committed to facing Oleksandr Usyk next, closely following by two bouts against Tyson Fury.

Where does Dillian Whyte go from here?

One thing he could do is throw his interim belt in the trash. If it ain't gonna get him a shot, what's he need it for?

I have to agree!

Dillian Whyte has has been paying the WBC 3% sanctioning fees more more than four years, engaged in numerous title eliminators, became the WBC's highest-rated fighter, previously held mandatory challenger status and also captured the WBC international, silver, interim and diamond straps.

But the WBC refuse to provide him with a timescale for his long-awaited world title challenge.

It seems likely that Mauricio Sulaiman won't grant Dillian Whyte a title shot until at least 2023, meaning he would have undergone a six year wait, so he may as well stop paying them sanctioning fees, because it's just a waste of money.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Whyte should sue. Bankrupt these fools

[emallini]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

[DrDuke]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

[Enlightened-One]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

You're right. And that's a big problem.

Assuming Whyte has to wait until 2023 for his title shot, which seems to be a very strong likelihood, then regardless of whether he wins or loses, he should consider suing them.

If he eventually loses his title challenge, he could argue that he would have had a much better chance to win the championship if the WBC adhered to their own rules and provided his with his well-earned shot several years sooner.

Alternatively, if he eventually wins the title, he could argue that he would have commanded much bigger paydays performing defences as the champion had he captured the belt earlier.

Regardless of whatever happens, he shouldn't have been forced to wait six years. He could have missed-out on a lot of big paydays.

[gilgamesh]

Whyte should sue. Bankrupt these fools

That too

[candyslim]

As depressing as it is, I have to agree with you guys. I don't think Whyte has begun his decline yet but by the time Sulaiman backs up his claim and enforces his title-shot Dillian will almost certainly not be in his prime, f*ck me he may not even be ambulatory.

[Boxtune]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

[Enlightened-One]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

Pretending that Alexander Povetkin couldn't walk, even though he'd fully-recovered from COVID19, is monumentally moronic!

He could have postponed the fight if he was unable to train.

Alexander Povetkin was knocked down twice and lost every single round, until the one-punch KO, during the first bout against Whyte.

The rematch was more of the same, except that Povetkin failed to land a lottery-winning one-punch KO.

Pretending that what I've just described is untrue, would be complete utter nonsense/fiction!

[joshj909]

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

Never has there been a more backhanded compliment

[H8Usernames]

Whyte lost by ko two fights ago. He isn't able to demand any mandatory status or title shot. Cry me a river.

[DrDuke]

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

Pretending that Alexander Povetkin couldn't walk, even though he'd fully-recovered from COVID19, is monumentally moronic!

He could have postponed the fight if he was unable to train.

Alexander Povetkin was knocked down twice and lost every single round, until the one-punch KO, during the first bout against Whyte.

The rematch was more of the same, except that Povetkin failed to land a lottery-winning one-punch KO.

Pretending that what I've just described is untrue, would be complete utter nonsense/fiction!

Your anal virginity is fiction. It's well-known, that covid brings severe complications, especially after a tough course like in Povetkin's case.

[candyslim]

He is 33. By the time he gets a shot he will probably be post prime.

Actually, it's tough to say, whether he is in prime now. He was quite good in 2017-2019 period. After the Rivas fight and the following PED scandal, he was back out of shape against Wach, after what he was iced by covid-free Povetkin. I won't call a win over post-covid Povetkin, who could barely walk, a significant one. I won't be surprised, if in the future Whyte won't score any win over a credible top fighter.

Finally someone who speak sense and truely understand boxing like me ...

Hey Doc. I bet you are feeling on top of the world after being compared to a real boxing expert. We are all so jealous.