I'm talking about the governing bodies. I think most of us would agree the IBf are (I hesitate to say "the best") far and away the least appalling, followed not so closely by the WBO. The WBA and WBC are the oldest and most established but they are both more corrupt than the government of any pariah-state.
I got to thinking what I would do if I were the new president of one of the alphabet orgs. I'm taking the liberty of assuming that finances allow for taking the long view.
The first thing I would do is to change the policy regarding recognition of champions of the other orgs. Ratings would be compiled purely on merit as I saw it. The flaw in the ratings would be that were subjective not that they were political or influenced by bribes, favours, personal relationships. Every fighter eligible for consideration will be considered irrespective of their status with any competing body. Hopefully they would soon be considered the only rankings produced by any governing body worth a damn.
This would inevitably lose income certainly in the short term, but I would be counting on the hope that the sport and the fans would come to recognize the integrity and impartiality of the new regime, and that the competition would be slowly discarded as redundant. That they would eventually sink into obscurity or even cease to exist, leaving the sport run property by just one governing body.
I'm pretty sure fans would be entirely on board but I can imagine various promoters, networks, even boxers being horrified by the prospect. What do you think?
Getting a jump on the competition
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Getting a jump on the competition
IBF are only good at one thing better than the others. Enforcing mandatories and actually stripping fighters. No interim bullshït.
What let’s them down badly is not allowing undisputed or unifications to happen because of above reasons and also, their mandatories are absolutely appalling!
What let’s them down badly is not allowing undisputed or unifications to happen because of above reasons and also, their mandatories are absolutely appalling!
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I don't believe I'm finding myself shaking my head in despair anywhere near as often at actions taken by the IBF as I am at the WBA/WBC but yes IBF are strict, maybe too strict at imposing their rules. At least you know where you stand.
How about the idea though? The ravings of a well-meaning madman or does that look like like a recipe for one of the orgs to get ahead?
How about the idea though? The ravings of a well-meaning madman or does that look like like a recipe for one of the orgs to get ahead?
Re: Getting a jump on the competition
That's right. IBF pretends to be more reasonable and fair, but eventually it provides just a different kind of sh!t, so it's not much better.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 08:21 IBF are only good at one thing better than the others. Enforcing mandatories and actually stripping fighters. No interim bullshït.
What let’s them down badly is not allowing undisputed or unifications to happen because of above reasons and also, their mandatories are absolutely appalling!
All of them suck.
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H8Usernames
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Re: Getting a jump on the competition
Way I see it we should boycott the WBA and WBC. Those aren't real boxing organization but rather family run firms.
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adislav123
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Re: Getting a jump on the competition
Wba just stands out regarding crookedness and overall shitiness. not much though WBC close behind.
lovejoy getting a ranking and fighting for however meaningless whatever shit strap it is versus charr just took the cake for farce of the year.
lovejoy getting a ranking and fighting for however meaningless whatever shit strap it is versus charr just took the cake for farce of the year.
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maverick23
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Re: Getting a jump on the competition
100% agree.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 08:21 IBF are only good at one thing better than the others. Enforcing mandatories and actually stripping fighters. No interim bullshït.
What let’s them down badly is not allowing undisputed or unifications to happen because of above reasons and also, their mandatories are absolutely appalling!
It’s a real shame that we may not see the undisputed Charlo/Castano rematch for all of the belts.
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Ok I take your points about the IBF, maybe I give them too much credit. In fairness I did describe them as the least appalling which is hardly a glowing endorsement, but we are comparing them to the WBA and the WBC.
I agree we should ignore those two but it won't make any difference what we as fans do. What hurts them is if promoters, TV networks, and fighters were to ignore them (their belts) but that's not going to happen. Not everyone wants to compete in a meritocracy.
That wasn't really the point of the thread though. I'm asking whether an injection of integrity by any one of them, and specifically rating all fighters on merit without excluding the champions of other orgs, is likely to add credibility, will it be appreciated by anyone other than the fans, and would going down this route be financially viable?
I agree we should ignore those two but it won't make any difference what we as fans do. What hurts them is if promoters, TV networks, and fighters were to ignore them (their belts) but that's not going to happen. Not everyone wants to compete in a meritocracy.
That wasn't really the point of the thread though. I'm asking whether an injection of integrity by any one of them, and specifically rating all fighters on merit without excluding the champions of other orgs, is likely to add credibility, will it be appreciated by anyone other than the fans, and would going down this route be financially viable?