Tokyo olympics

[Mangoraj]

Who are the top prospects at this Olympic Games and what weight classes will be the most competitive.

[TheGoods]

Who are the fighters nailed on for gold?

[Cent0089]

Well, MIDDLEWEIGHT division is definitely one to watch. Ukraine Oleksandr Khyznyak is a bad, bad man, cannot wait to see him in pro ranks. Also cuban 2016 olympic champion Arlen Lopez and 2019 world champ Gleb Bakshi from Russia would be his major rivals. Lot of other middleweights can surprise too - Eumir Marcial from Philippines.

I am also very interested in McCormack twins from UK - 63 and 69 kg.

Despite he is unwatchable for me, 4 time world champ and 2016 olympic champ, cuban Julio la Cruz will be at his 3rd olympic games in 81 kg division and lot of fans praise his style.

Vasili Levit from Kazakhstan is my favorite in heavier weights.

For US fans, there are Duke Ragan and Keyshawn Davis in lower weights, i think they can achieve lot of succes in olympics.

[Verdi]

Jalolov will with the SHW gold.

[computerrank]

Well, MIDDLEWEIGHT division is definitely one to watch. Ukraine Oleksandr Khyznyak is a bad, bad man, cannot wait to see him in pro ranks. Also cuban 2016 olympic champion Arlen Lopez and 2019 world champ Gleb Bakshi from Russia would be his major rivals. Lot of other middleweights can surprise too - Eumir Marcial from Philippines.

I am also very interested in McCormack twins from UK - 63 and 69 kg.

Despite he is unwatchable for me, 4 time world champ and 2016 olympic champ, cuban Julio la Cruz will be at his 3rd olympic games in 81 kg division and lot of fans praise his style.

Vasili Levit from Kazakhstan is my favorite in heavier weights.

For US fans, there are Duke Ragan and Keyshawn Davis in lower weights, i think they can achieve lot of succes in olympics.

Look into the official schedule and you will see Arlen Lopez is at Light Heavyweight in Tokyo - and others also at other weight divisions ...

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic ... 5-81kg.htm

[Delta Jay]

Australian light heavy Paulo Aokuso came out of nowhere, started boxing just 5 years ago, and beat then world #2 Ruzmetov from Uzbekistan in the Asia/Pacific qualifiers. He’s been described as the Samoan Roy Jones and that’s honestly not a million miles off. I like watching him anyway.

Julio La Cruz has moved up to 91kg Heavy. I think he’s on the slide. Just wonder who’s gonna upset him.

I believe Pat McCormack is the 69kg welter of the two twins, and Luke is actually slightly taller but lighter at 63kg. I’ll have to double check that. I fancy Pat’s chance but not Luke’s.

Uzbekistan won most medals at the last Olympics and last worlds, they’ve had a few of their best fighters turn pro now, though. Bakhodir Jalolov at super heavy is the biggest favourite at any weight. He’s a simply massive southpaw with serious power and solid fundamentals.

Featherweight is probably the most hotly contested, usual suspects of UZB, KAZ and Cuba with a good Russian and even two good lads in MacGrail and Walker from GBR and IRL. I honestly think that division is anyone’s.

If you want an idea of who’s likely to win what, Paddy Power have put out odds for every fighter to win gold. Some interesting numbers.

[maverick23]

Peter McGrail’s surprisingly out already. Lost in the last 32 against a decent Thai fighter.

I’d expect him to go pro now - he’s 25/26 and would make a decent pro at Featherweight.

[DrDuke]

Peter McGrail’s surprisingly out already. Lost in the last 32 against a decent Thai fighter.

I’d expect him to go pro now - he’s 25/26 and would make a decent pro at Featherweight.

The Thai guy outboxed McGrail confidenty.

[maverick23]

Peter McGrail’s surprisingly out already. Lost in the last 32 against a decent Thai fighter.

I’d expect him to go pro now - he’s 25/26 and would make a decent pro at Featherweight.

The Thai guy outboxed McGrail confidenty.

Yeah. He’s a decent, experienced fighter. His 3rd Olympics I think. Still thought McGrail would do the business though.

[Cent0089]

Duke Ragan got a total gift decision against frenchman

[margaret thatcher]

these guys got pro money behind them

[coneye]

Peter McGrail’s surprisingly out already. Lost in the last 32 against a decent Thai fighter.

I’d expect him to go pro now - he’s 25/26 and would make a decent pro at Featherweight.

The Thai guy outboxed McGrail confidenty.

Yeah. He’s a decent, experienced fighter. His 3rd Olympics I think. Still thought McGrail would do the business though.

Think the Thai just mastered the ameteur style , fair result

[maverick23]

Duke Ragan got a total gift decision against frenchman

2 pros fighting against each in the Olympics. The sport’s gone mad!

[maverick23]

these guys got pro money behind them

The overall standard is really good. I was really impressed with the standard of the recent Euros and have been in the fights I’ve seen today - there aren’t many easy wins/draws nowadays.

[DrDuke]

Some close results today at 57kg.

Arg vs Ger was a type of a fight, where a one guy seems to land more taps, while the other guy lands more hard shots. The Argentine was landing the heaviest blows and got the dec, which seems right to me.

The Vietnamese got a very close dec over the Azerbaijani, where the least started very good, but was knocked down late in the 1st round, after what he less confident.

At 69 kg USA vs Arg was very close as well. The US guy generally seemed a bit better and it also was a knockdown, which spoiled a lot for him.

[Cent0089]

Some close results today at 57kg.

Arg vs Ger was a type of a fight, where a one guy seems to land more taps, while the other guy lands more hard shots. The Argentine was landing the heaviest blows and got the dec, which seems right to me.

The Vietnamese got a very close dec over the Azerbaijani, where the least started very good, but was knocked down late in the 1st round, after what he less confident.

At 69 kg USA vs Arg was very close as well. The US guy generally seemed a bit better and it also was a knockdown, which spoiled a lot for him.

You can be knocked down and still won round 10-9 in amateurs. Hate it. They should wear proboxing type of gloves so there will be more knockouts. Some of those decisions results are just insane

[DrDuke]

Some close results today at 57kg.

Arg vs Ger was a type of a fight, where a one guy seems to land more taps, while the other guy lands more hard shots. The Argentine was landing the heaviest blows and got the dec, which seems right to me.

The Vietnamese got a very close dec over the Azerbaijani, where the least started very good, but was knocked down late in the 1st round, after what he less confident.

At 69 kg USA vs Arg was very close as well. The US guy generally seemed a bit better and it also was a knockdown, which spoiled a lot for him.

You can be knocked down and still won round 10-9 in amateurs. Hate it. They should wear proboxing type of gloves so there will be more knockouts. Some of those decisions results are just insane

Well, there's some sense in it with the amateurs. Imagine a guy winning all 3 rounds, while being knocked down in a one of them and losing it 10-8. There will be a draw overall.

[Cent0089]

Some close results today at 57kg.

Arg vs Ger was a type of a fight, where a one guy seems to land more taps, while the other guy lands more hard shots. The Argentine was landing the heaviest blows and got the dec, which seems right to me.

The Vietnamese got a very close dec over the Azerbaijani, where the least started very good, but was knocked down late in the 1st round, after what he less confident.

At 69 kg USA vs Arg was very close as well. The US guy generally seemed a bit better and it also was a knockdown, which spoiled a lot for him.

You can be knocked down and still won round 10-9 in amateurs. Hate it. They should wear proboxing type of gloves so there will be more knockouts. Some of those decisions results are just insane

Well, there's some sense in it with the amateurs. Imagine a guy winning all 3 rounds, while being knocked down in a one of them and losing it 10-8. There will be a draw overall.

Ok i can take it. But being knocked down and win round 10-9?

[JMac]

Duke Ragan got a total gift decision against frenchman

That was a crap fight. I wouldn't call it a gift based on the fact the French boxer was real dirty with lots of hits in the back of the head, forearms to the neck and throwing down the other guy. Ragan wasn't dirty but also not effective either. They both sucked in this fight and it was 3-2 decision. If I was judging I would have gone with Ragan for at least not being a dirty fighter.

[Cent0089]

Duke Ragan got a total gift decision against frenchman

That was a crap fight. I wouldn't call it a gift based on the fact the French boxer was real dirty with lots of hits in the back of the head, forearms to the neck and throwing down the other guy. Ragan wasn't dirty but also not effective either. They both sucked in this fight and it was 3-2 decision. If I was judging I would have gone with Ragan for at least not being a dirty fighter.

Honestly, yes, frenchman was dirty af, but Ragan was holding for all 3 rounds which is also dirty. It is weird, because i remembering Ragan as good fighter from world championships and pro game. Probably bad clash of styles led to a crappy fight

[JMac]

Styles make fights no doubt and that was one ugly fight, almost like the crap fights that happened in the computer scoring days when it was punch and hold, punch and wrestle, punch and run.

[maverick23]

All wins today from the Brits. Whittaker won although the fight was closer than it should have been, Luke McCormack had a decent win and Charley Davison had a comfortable win.

[JamesPhilips]

Why are there so few stoppages in international boxing these days esp now they’ve removed the head guards?

In 1984 and 1988 Olympics were loads of fighters getting banged out….and they had head guards. Todd Foster even banged out the same Korean twice in one day LOL

Also the pure red or blue outfits really remove character from the fighters. I understand the red / blue logic, but surely they could allow the countries to have an individual strip, just keep the gloves red and blue.

Olympic boxing is so dry last few Olympics I can barely watch it.

[DrDuke]

Why are there so few stoppages in international boxing these days esp now they’ve removed the head guards?

In 1984 and 1988 Olympics were loads of fighters getting banged out….and they had head guards. Todd Foster even banged out the same Korean twice in one day LOL

Also the pure red or blue outfits really remove character from the fighters. I understand the red / blue logic, but surely they could allow the countries to have an individual strip, just keep the gloves red and blue.

Olympic boxing is so dry last few Olympics I can barely watch it.

The Indian outfits had elements of their flag. It looks like it's allowed. just no one cared.

[JMac]

In the old days before there was a cap on the total # of athletes, any country could enter a boxer in every weight class once they made their own Olympic team without going through the continental qualifiers. Some countries had boxers that were really inexperienced going against top boxers with way more experience hence the many stoppages. The continental qualifiers help to allow the better boxers to make it to the Olympics. Way back in 1990, I spent a month in the west African country of Niger preparing them for a dual match with Burkina Faso. Niger had 4 boxers that boxed in the '88 Olympics and they were all terrible and probably got blasted out in their first fight in Seoul.
As for the red and blue uniform....that was originally put in for the computer scoring. It helped the judges push the right button. Now they are back to 10 point must system and they don't need the red and blue uniforms anymore. They have the gloves and headgear. I agree that they should be able to go back to their country colors for their uniforms.
Overall, the Olympics are / have become a joke with all of these BS sports. Not that they are not hard to do but they don't belong in the Olympics. The IOC says they want to attract the younger crowd with these new sports. When I was young, I liked the old traditional sports just fine. I don't think they are attracting the younger crowd like they want and putting off the older crowd who can't watch boxing and wrestling without going online.