Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Carlos Takam - 24 July 2021

[Shambles]

Good stoppage. Anyone that thinks that Takam was going to come back from that is deluded.

Another few seconds and Takam would have been badly hurt.

[peter barlow]

Talking about a WBO mando that realistically wont happen until 2023 at the earliest, are they really going to sit and wait for that without better tests? And surely Whyte is first in line.

Joyce wont trouble the big guys.

[margaret thatcher]

he only has a 79 inch reach, not that long


ya ya, he's more effective than he looks, he'll make anyone work hard, but he also has a sh!tload of real flaws and could hardly block a punch tonight

and of course he's never proved that the 'he'll find a way' will actually carry up to anyone in the top 10. i just dont see him beating the top guys in the division, im sure he'll give most contenders a rough night at minimum though

[skanksta]

Not the big guys but I think he beats Usyk.

[brilo33]

Everyone likes to shit on joe. they think because his punches arnt snappy they dont do anything but by all acounts they hurt when they thud in.

Add in the fact the joyce is probably the strongest in the division, one of the best chins, one of the best cardio, and a great height and reach... nightmare for anyone (except usyk and fury).

always going to struggle early when his slowness is most exposed, trash defence too, but if he can weather through it and just keep podding fowards noone is having an easy night.

iam not shitting on him, when i talk about boxers in my mind i am compairing him to eilite or world champion cause thats what were talking about jj is Olympic boxer he is top boxer

[margaret thatcher]

usyk has an a-level gas tank himself and will be tough for joe to catch up with enough with to grind down, i think usyk outpoints him

[Shambles]

Everyone likes to shit on joe. they think because his punches arnt snappy they dont do anything but by all acounts they hurt when they thud in.

Add in the fact the joyce is probably the strongest in the division, one of the best chins, one of the best cardio, and a great height and reach... nightmare for anyone (except usyk and fury).

always going to struggle early when his slowness is most exposed, trash defence too, but if he can weather through it and just keep podding fowards noone is having an easy night.

True regarding his stamina, he'll get to most opponents at some point providing he doesn't get caught early.

[margaret thatcher]

joe ' the inevitability' joyce

[skanksta]

In an ideal world he’d fight Chi’sora or Usyk next.

[JamesPhilips]

Ben Davison keeps waffling on about HEIGHT DISSADVARNTAGE BEING ADVARNTAGE

Davidson really thinks he knows more about boxing than anyone else as he rolls out another word salad waffle…. He fancies himself as Emmanuel Steward, cuz D’Amato and Angelo Dundee rolled into one, and with the vocabulary of Noam Chomsky and the psychology of Sigmund Freud. TWAT

Personally I just watch the boxing, I'm not massively bothered about some person trying to do some commentary. Don't watch it if it angers you so much.

Same as Growling Smith, ignore him.

As a big boxing fan I’m hardly gonna not watch the fights because of the commentary. And switching off sound is an atmosphere killer. But it’s still acceptable to have an opinion on the commentary. Serious boxing fans always have an opinion on the commentary. And Davison is a drain to listen to…. and Smith is execrable. It’s perfectly reasonable for serious boxing fans to be passionate about every aspect of their sport.

Sometimes awful commentary can add to an experience strangely. I actually enjoy and miss Ron McIntosh’s odd choice of words…. And Smith making me cringe with his Bomber remarks etc is in a weird way part of the awful Sky Sports boxing experience.

Anyway we won’t have to listen to Smith much anymore, unless any of us are big women’s netball fans thankfully….

[peter barlow]

Not the big guys but I think he beats Usyk.

I doubt that, although Usyk may struggle to stop Joyce. I don't think Usyk has the size or power for heavy.

Joyce is very easy to hit.

[margaret thatcher]

ya i think chisora would be a good fight for him........takam is a good opponent to have fought before facing chis too. different styles, but identical dimensions and very similar with the looping shots

[JamesPhilips]

usyk has an a-level gas tank himself and will be tough for joe to catch up with enough with to grind down, i think usyk outpoints him

I think Usyk struggles with Joe’s strength. He was uncomfortable in last couple of rounds in WSB and Chisora’s strength troubled Aleksandr.

[margaret thatcher]

i put mute on most of the time tbh


the sound usually isnt good enough to hear full volume on the shots landing, grunts in the ring, etc.....especially with comms talking.

ive seen some streams where there is full ring sounds but no commentary - absolutely f@cking love that

[gregregegg]

I think Usyk just peices him up for 12, fury too. But i think he has a decent chance vs anyone else if he gets his stratergy right. Does need to be willing to clinch a bit more, big joe getting hands on you and leaning is a nightmare for the energy levles. AJ didnt love it in there with takem either, sure he took less big rights, but he also dosent have a chin to take the shots either.

Its obviously completely unknown how far joyce can go, but if he can add just a bit of smart clinching i think he is even money with everyone but usyk, fury and AJ.

love to see him in with Yoka, Hrgovic, Ortiz or parker next.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk has an a-level gas tank himself and will be tough for joe to catch up with enough with to grind down, i think usyk outpoints him

I think Usyk struggles with Joe’s strength. He was uncomfortable in last couple of rounds in WSB and Chisora’s strength troubled Aleksandr.

i thought he looked perfectly composed in the wsb fight, and he obviously won all 5 rounds - tbh not the fight i'd expect someone to use as evidence for joyce winning!

chisora for me hardly touched usyk after the first 2 rounds. he also has more of a frantic come forward style of stalking, whereas joyce is more measured and methodical (and slower) and i think that plays into usyk's hands. usyk also has very good stamina himself - it's one of his main strengths

a stronger guy still needs to be landing and imposing himself to sap the smaller guy, and usyk has plenty of gas tank in there

[peter barlow]

In an ideal world he’d fight Chi’sora or Usyk next.

I'd agree 2 interesting fights. Chisora was at the fight tonight

I wonder will they avoid any challenges due to the mando. Mandatory or not Joyce really needs a few more tests

[margaret thatcher]

joyce aint gonna fight usyk anyway - chisora i can see happening though

[brilo33]

uysk jj i think tactics win that fight think jj would have up the pace of the fight make uysk gas otherwise i think uysk would pot shot him in out and win , i would go uysk today

[margaret thatcher]

ya usyk for me is just wrong for choice

good stamina + much quicker + possibly the best movement in the division = a very good recipe to move around joe , pepper his porous defense, and have enough left to make it to the end for a points win

[brilo33]

jj v hughie fury i think hughie would beat him

[Shambles]

Davidson really thinks he knows more about boxing than anyone else as he rolls out another word salad waffle…. He fancies himself as Emmanuel Steward, cuz D’Amato and Angelo Dundee rolled into one, and with the vocabulary of Noam Chomsky and the psychology of Sigmund Freud. TWAT

Personally I just watch the boxing, I'm not massively bothered about some person trying to do some commentary. Don't watch it if it angers you so much.

Same as Growling Smith, ignore him.

As a big boxing fan I’m hardly gonna not watch the fights because of the commentary. And switching off sound is an atmosphere killer. But it’s still acceptable to have an opinion on the commentary. Serious boxing fans always have an opinion on the commentary. And Davison is a drain to listen to…. and Smith is execrable. It’s perfectly reasonable for serious boxing fans to be passionate about every aspect of their sport.

Sometimes awful commentary can add to an experience strangely. I actually enjoy and miss Ron McIntosh’s odd choice of words…. And Smith making me cringe with his Bomber remarks etc is in a weird way part of the awful Sky Sports boxing experience.

Anyway we won’t have to listen to Smith much anymore, unless any of us are big women’s netball fans thankfully….

Good point with regards to Big Ron, I don't mind him at all. Seems like a decent person, boxing fan, just some bizarre and occasionally hilarious expressions. He's good and works well with Richie Woodall.

That Smith bomber comment was odd and so uncomfortable.

I get what your saying about serious boxing fans having an opinion on commentary. I guess I'm less serious than I used to be. There is so much nonsense within boxing that I'm beginning to tire of it. I can't happily watch an evening of fights any more, I have to pick and choose and even then it can be a drag.
I hope I snap out of it.

[gregregegg]

Bad stoppage, much worse than the AJ/Takam stoppage. Joyce was starting to takeover as Takam tired and caught him well at the beginning of the round but Takam was still there.

The fight showed that Takam might still be able to beat a few up and comers, while Joyce is looking more and more easy to hit for the top guys.

why do you think it was worse? just interested.

AJ vs takem stopage, AJ landed a 1-2 then takem avoided the rest brilliantly, pulled back out of ranged of a big right, slipped a left and ducked under the next big right, then the ref stopped it.

Joyce vs takem stopage, joyce threw 15 + unanswered shots, about 12 landed, takem was just leaning fowards on unsteady legs, finaly got rocked back and it was stopped.

Takem was still protecting himself vs AJ was not vs joyce.

[KiwiRider]

Davidson really thinks he knows more about boxing than anyone else as he rolls out another word salad waffle…. He fancies himself as Emmanuel Steward, cuz D’Amato and Angelo Dundee rolled into one, and with the vocabulary of Noam Chomsky and the psychology of Sigmund Freud. TWAT

He’s not commentating.. he’s basically shouting instructions as if he’s training the fighter in the ring.

Lol precisely. He drives me mad. And that’s the big learning from today’s card….. we now know what the nightmare P4P boxing commentary teams as follows:

Lead Commentator: Adam ‘The Respect’ Smith
Assistant Commenator and technical analyst: Boxercise Bellend Ben Davison
Colour commentator: Teddy ‘the Fable’’ Atlas
Post fight interviewer: Steve ‘5 Biros’ Bunce
After Fight Sumariser: Spencer ‘the Master Fvckwit’ Fearon.

Nailed it


so how much is the subscription?

[KiwiRider]

Not the big guys but I think he beats Usyk.

I could see that too- if Joyce started fast and Uysk didn't.
A go at Whyte intrigues me.