Big Tests for Queensberry Stars

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Big Tests for Queensberry Stars

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Some absolute belters booked in for Frank's big stars.

Daniel Dubois and Tommy Fury are fighting on the Jake Paul card on 29th August.

Dubois has got Joe Cusumano (19-3). I've never heard of Joe, but he scores highly on the "never been stopped" scale.

Fury has the challenge of Anthony Taylor (0-1). He made his debut in 2017 at middleweight, and is 5'7. Never been stopped though. He's a sparing partner of Jake Paul allegedly.

Yarde prepares for the rematch with Arthur by taking on 23-5 Colombian Alex Theran on 28th August. Alas, all his defeats have come inside the distance, so expecting a highlight reel knockout to cause the top 10 sleepless nights.

Lovely stuff.
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Stop moaning, it is how it works.

You would be stupid not to do it considering the exposure.
Risk / Reward.

What do you expect.
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zeroprobe wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 09:49 Stop moaning, it is how it works.

You would be stupid not to do it considering the exposure.
Risk / Reward.

What do you expect.
You can give fighters a platform and still have competitive fights. These fights are part of the reason that boxing keeps moving away from being a mainstream sport.

Surely they could have found a more meaningful opponent for Dubois and a better opponent for Yarde?!
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zeroprobe wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 09:49 Stop moaning, it is how it works.

You would be stupid not to do it considering the exposure.
Risk / Reward.

What do you expect.
Maybe something radical like competitive fights that also increase exposure.

As for "risk/reward" - what does that actually mean?

There's fornicate all risk and relatively little reward that I can see. Unless you think that being buried on a Jake Paul undercard will make Daniel Dubois a megastar.

You think Yarde's fight is adequate for a fighter with world title aspirations?
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The Fury fight is shocking, his oppo has been as low as 147 during his mma career.

You gotta be a mong of the highest order too think that's okay. Can't even be arsed to look at the other fights. It's all shite.

I don't know how Frank does it and keeps a straight face.
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Tommy Fury's record even for a novice is diabolical, made all the worse that he's being built up, Anthony Yarde is another one, found himself as mandatory for Kovalev and got exposed, lost soundly to one armed Arthur and is warming up to an undeserved rematch by fighting a guy who all 5 losses have been by stoppage, Yarde also turned down Warren's proposed replacement when he was due to fight a couple weeks back then Frank in turn turned down Yarde's team suggested replacement, god only know how bad he mustve been for Warren to knock back, no lesson learned by Yarde when it comes to Tunde or learning his craft, what's the point?
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handsofstone wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 12:36 Tommy Fury's record even for a novice is diabolical, made all the worse that he's being built up, Anthony Yarde is another one, found himself as mandatory for Kovalev and got exposed, lost soundly to one armed Arthur and is warming up to an undeserved rematch by fighting a guy who all 5 losses have been by stoppage, Yarde also turned down Warren's proposed replacement when he was due to fight a couple weeks back then Frank in turn turned down Yarde's team suggested replacement, god only know how bad he mustve been for Warren to knock back, no lesson learned by Yarde when it comes to Tunde or learning his craft, what's the point?
Yep. Similar for Dubois - the only meaningful, competitive fight he’s had he was beat and they’re not getting him the learning fights needed to take him to the next level.
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No, the Nathan Gorman fight was ok....nothing more, but ok.
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Fury’s opponent only lost once so looks a good test
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THEBUTCH wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 12:52 No, the Nathan Gorman fight was ok....nothing more, but ok.
It was barely ok.

Nathan has yet to pick up a meaningful win for me and he had, from memory, a really bad time with his child when the Dubois fight happened.
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magnus wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 11:12
zeroprobe wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 09:49 Stop moaning, it is how it works.

You would be stupid not to do it considering the exposure.
Risk / Reward.

What do you expect.
Maybe something radical like competitive fights that also increase exposure.

As for "risk/reward" - what does that actually mean?

There's fornicate all risk and relatively little reward that I can see. Unless you think that being buried on a Jake Paul undercard will make Daniel Dubois a megastar.

You think Yarde's fight is adequate for a fighter with world title aspirations?
Of course I'd like better oppo, but....
They'll all get highlight reel KOs on US tv in front of Jake Paul PPV buyers - you can't really blame them.
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Nathan Heeney has apparently sold 1500 tickets for his next fight in Brum. With no opponent named. Will the guy even have a pulse when they finally get round to naming him ?
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Its a piss take off the highest order , , and why oh why ANYONE would be stupid enough to buy this shite is beyond me , If its free i would'nt watch it ,, In fact the day i watch this sort of crap is the day i get the grandkids round and watch Hulk Hogan re runs ,,, It really is simple , DON'T WATCH IT ,,, put it right where it belongs in the unwatchable , what a load of shite bin .

Just leave it for the experts , you know the ones who will tell you mGREGOR IS A BETTER BOXER THAN mAYWEATHER , HE WAS JUST UNLUCKY THAT DAY .
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Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 13:57 Nathan Heeney has apparently sold 1500 tickets for his next fight in Brum. With no opponent named. Will the guy even have a pulse when they finally get round to naming him ?
Nope.
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maverick23 wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 14:32
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 13:57 Nathan Heeney has apparently sold 1500 tickets for his next fight in Brum. With no opponent named. Will the guy even have a pulse when they finally get round to naming him ?
Nope.
It’s 60 quid a ticket!
Hearney will waste his best years making Frank money.
Look how ripped he is… he obviously trains super hard just to fight Latvian bus drivers a weight class below.
Plus it’s Birmingham so these fans are travelling!
Won’t be long before he’s fighting for a Commonwealth title against a 12-4 Fijian in front of 20k at the Britannia.
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Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 14:38
maverick23 wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 14:32
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 13:57 Nathan Heeney has apparently sold 1500 tickets for his next fight in Brum. With no opponent named. Will the guy even have a pulse when they finally get round to naming him ?
Nope.
It’s 60 quid a ticket!
Hearney will waste his best years making Frank money.
Look how ripped he is… he obviously trains super hard just to fight Latvian bus drivers a weight class below.
Plus it’s Birmingham so these fans are travelling!
Won’t be long before he’s fighting for a Commonwealth title against a 12-4 Fijian in front of 20k at the Britannia.
I don’t think Heaney is that great - just had crazy support. Will be a while before Frank puts him in a competitive fight and I’d expect him to go down the intercontinental/easy route than the British title.
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maverick23 wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 15:18
Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 14:38
maverick23 wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 14:32

Nope.
It’s 60 quid a ticket!
Hearney will waste his best years making Frank money.
Look how ripped he is… he obviously trains super hard just to fight Latvian bus drivers a weight class below.
Plus it’s Birmingham so these fans are travelling!
Won’t be long before he’s fighting for a Commonwealth title against a 12-4 Fijian in front of 20k at the Britannia.
I don’t think Heaney is that great - just had crazy support. Will be a while before Frank puts him in a competitive fight and I’d expect him to go down the intercontinental/easy route than the British title.
Don’t think you read my post correctly. It’s impossible to say how good Heaney is because his opponents have been so so bad. I didn’t even mention the British belt; he’s no where near a shot and that’ll probably be the case for the next 2 years.
He’s being completely used but he’s probably getting 20k a fight to knock over bums x3 per year.
I guess I’m the mug.
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