Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Dimitry Bivol | DAZN PPV - May 7, 2022

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 07 May 2022, 05:04

Alvarez - Decision
40
47%
Alvarez - T/KO
14
16%
DRAW
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2%
Bivol - T/KO
8
9%
Bivol - Decision
22
26%
 
Total votes: 86

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Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Dimitry Bivol | DAZN PPV - May 7, 2022

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Eddie Hearn says Canelo vs. Bivol possible for September 18th

Eddie Hearn revealed on Wednesday that WBA light heavyweight champion Dimitry Bivol is the “frontrunner” as the replacement opponent to fight Canelo Alvarez on September 18th in case the negotiations with Caleb Plant fail to be revived.

Most fans would agree that Bivol is a much better fight for Canelo than Plant, but it’s far riskier. Bivol has excellent technical skills, and more importantly, his conditioning is one of his strong suits.

In contrast, Plant has shown stamina problems, gassing out against Jose Uzcategui and Caleb Truax in the second half of those fights.

Hearn promotes Bivol (18-0, 11 KOs), and he’s already started discussions with him to replace Plant. It’s a difficult fight for Canelo, but it’s one that he can do if he puts together the perfect game plan.

Bivol isn’t someone that Canelo will beat with the low work rate that we saw from him in his last fight against Billy Joe Saunders.

For Canelo to beat Bivol, he’s going to need to increase his punch output, and he can’t assume that he will knock this guy out.

Bivol can take a punch, as seen in his wins over Joe Smith Jr and Jean Pascal. Smith hits harder than Canelo and has a higher punch output. Bivol had no issues dealing with his shots.

The Canelo vs. Plant negotiations is currently dead after the two sides reached an impasse over contractual disagreements.

Plant unhappy with Canelo’s sickness clause

IBF super middleweight belt-holder Plant (21-0, 12 KOs) is unhappy about the injury & sickness clause that Canelo wants in the contract, which would involve him getting the same money if Caleb pulls out of the fight for one of those reasons.

With Plant having injury problems involving his left hand, which he complained about after his recent fight against Caleb Truax, Canelo isn’t taking any chances.

Dimity Bivol talks have begun

“There have been some discussions with Dmitry Bivol. Over the last few weeks, that’s a good fight. 175 pounds, you know, there are other options,” said Eddie Hearn to the DAZN Boxing Show on a potential replacement opponent for Canelo to fight on September 18th.

“He’s constantly for the champions, and you’re 175lbs. Joe Smith, you got Beterbiev, but I think Bivol would be that front runner. You know, he was certainly a guy that I put forward again.”

“I want to spend just one day in the world, the planet of Oscar De La Hoya. It’ll be a fun place!”


It’s a win-win for Hearn if Canelo fights Bivol, as he’s had problems trying to find big-name fighters to face the talented Russian. Hearn is looking forward to Bivol eventually facing IBF/WBA 175-lb champion Artur Beterbiev, but that fight likely won’t happen until 2022, if at all.

It would be a huge plus for Bivol’s career if he were to defeat Canelo, as it would bring a lot of attention to him. Whether Canelo would want a rematch, Bivol could wind up making a great deal of money in two fights against him.

If a fighter like Plant can get a $10 million payday against Canelo, Bivol is worth at least that if not, given that he’s arguably more talented.

You couldn’t put Plant in with Bivol in a fight and assume that he would do anything but lose to the Russian fighter. But at the same time, Bivol’s talent might keep him from getting the fight with Canelo. This isn’t the type of fighter that you face on seven weeks’ notice.

To have a decent chance of beating Bivol, Canelo will need to training for at least three months, and even then, he might be over his head.



Hearn was quiet about what the major disagreement is between Canelo and Plant. Still, he already let the cat out of the bag a couple of weeks ago by saying that PBC wanted Alvarez to agree to a three-fight deal in exchange for them letting him fight Caleb.

Canelo isn’t going to sign away a year of his career to fight the IBF belt holder Plant.

Canelo vs. Plant isn’t any different from the Mexican star’s recent fights against Billy Joe Saunders, Callum Smith, and Rocky Fielding in terms of fan interest. Plant brings anything more than those guys did.

Plant is more popular than Avni Yildirim, but he’s not a bigger name than Canelo’s opponents Daniel Jacobs or Sergey Kovalev.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Higher weight and much riskier fight than Plant!

In house fight as well.. well, Eddie promotes Bivol, and I don't see why Bivol wouldn't take this..
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Im sure this press release is part true part to pressure plant. If plant dosent take this i hope he gets knocked out by someone that will....

Plant apears to be carrying on like a bitch.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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It’s a banana skin for Canelo, because Dmitry Bivol is definitely a much better fighter than the man we witnessed struggle to overcome the British domestic level Craig Richards.

So expect the Russian to raise his game for the Canelo fight.

Anyway, this bout goes the distance. Bivol will be the busier fighter and will land more shots every single round.

But the quality, efficiency and power will come from Canelo.

I can see this fight playing out in a similar manner to the Jacobs bout, but instead of starting slow, Bivol will be the busier fighter during the early stages (with Canelo losing some of the first few rounds or so), but the Russian will slow down as the fight progresses, which is when the Mexican will take over and gain ownership of the winning momentum.

Canelo will win a lop-sided decision, which will be deemed as being highly-controversial, by the minority of people that prefer quantity over quality.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Hearn confirmed that Bivol was the fight being considered for Canelo.

“We are talking about the Dmitry Bivol fight at the minute,” Hearn said. “If we get that over the line, it is only even weeks away. The Plant fight is not happening… for now, but if he goes September 18 it is likely to be Bivol. We need to get moving.

“I think it would be some kind of catchweight. Bivol has been talking about going to 168 for some time. He just wants some kind of big opportunity.”
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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A best fight of Canelo, if not against Beterbiev. I slightly favor Canelo here.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Wow, what a surprise, someone wants to fight Canelo.

Will Bivol make the Dawson mistake?
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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if @175 BIVOL--- if catchweight then CANELO
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Unlike Plant, Bivol is a threat
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Unlike Beterbiev, Canelo is the winning lottery ticket.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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anything else than the full 175 without any rehydration clause is embarrassing.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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adislav123 wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 15:52 anything else than the full 175 without any rehydration clause is embarrassing.
So even though there’s at least a dozen videos of Bivol claiming he’s a small light heavyweight that could easily make 168lbs to face Canelo, then you consider that as being “embarrassing”?

Did you not watch the videos I posted to this thread earlier on today?

Does Bivol’s own words not persuade you?

The entire forum has been aware of Bivol’s willingness to compete at 168lbs for several years.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=227977

https://3kingsboxing.com/bivol-can-make-168/amp/

Are you seriously pretending that real-world historical events didn’t happen, despite the obvious abundance of video evidence?
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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I’d take Canelo by UD. Going to be a tough fight for him though. Hats off for taking it and keeping busy.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Bivol needs a knockout to score a draw.
No way this goes the distance and Bivol gets a fair shake on the cards.
Canelo by wide decision
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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tiny_acres wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 19:41 Bivol needs a knockout to score a draw.
No way this goes the distance and Bivol gets a fair shake on the cards.
Canelo by wide decision
Bivol sends Canelo to hospital and it’s a split loss at worst. :lol:
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 19:49
tiny_acres wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 19:41 Bivol needs a knockout to score a draw.
No way this goes the distance and Bivol gets a fair shake on the cards.
Canelo by wide decision
Bivol sends Canelo to hospital and it’s a split loss at worst. :lol:
Exactly :lol:
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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bobcatbox wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 17:24 I’d take Canelo by UD. Going to be a tough fight for him though. Hats off for taking it and keeping busy.
i am leaning to a nelo ud as well, but i think it will be a close fight that is 7-5 ish. i think bivol is defo good enough to make it close, and if he doesnt it will be due to him underperforming
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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Can we vote based on our own scorecards?
Mine has Bivol edging it by simply outworking Canelo.
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This would pass I'd watch it.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 20:56
bobcatbox wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 17:24 I’d take Canelo by UD. Going to be a tough fight for him though. Hats off for taking it and keeping busy.
i am leaning to a nelo ud as well, but i think it will be a close fight that is 7-5 ish. i think bivol is defo good enough to make it close, and if he doesnt it will be due to him underperforming
Yeh, just because Bivol has been coasting decisions for a while now, doesn’t mean he isn’t an exciting boxer or shouldn’t deserve an opportunity.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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I think Bivol wants to keep his title at 175 to unify there, so that's why would want to face Canelo at 168 or maybe at a catchweight which is good. A cw of 172 would be ideal for Bivol. Anyway I guess Canelo would want it at 168 or 170 with probably a rehydration clause.
Bivol is good but Canelo is better. Also Canelo would want to have all the advantages on his side. But maybe Canelo would want to fight Bivol at 175 which would be good news. :box:
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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tiny_acres wrote: 05 Aug 2021, 19:41 Bivol needs a knockout to score a draw.
No way this goes the distance and Bivol gets a fair shake on the cards.
Canelo by wide decision
My thoughts exactly,
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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seems they 'agreed' to fight at a catch (canelo) weight of 172 for the light heavyweight championship which last time i checked was 175.

yeah, eo, i know, this isn't unheard of.

that still doesn't make it a less shitty move.
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvaerz vs. Dimitry Bivol - September 18, 2021?

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adislav123 wrote: 07 Aug 2021, 15:17 seems they 'agreed' to fight at a catch (canelo) weight of 172 for the light heavyweight championship which last time i checked was 175.

yeah, eo, i know, this isn't unheard of.

that still doesn't make it a less shitty move.
It’s ok.. it’s not draining Bivol.

He has said times before, he can make 168 no issue. Weight isn’t a problem for him.

He was gonna come down to 168 for Cal Smith tooo. I’m sure 2 pounds won’t hurt. For the money he’ll be making. Why not.
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