Herbie Hide

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 19 Jul 2006, 02:58

Does anyone know what he's up to these days and if he's ever going to fight again?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Jul 2006, 03:10

He was coming back but got KO'd by a gust of wind.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2006, 05:10

I heard he combed his hair and knocked himself out.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 19 Jul 2006, 05:35

There was talk of a new start in Canada but nothing came of it

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Jul 2006, 06:36

The worst chin on a "world champ" from these shores ever surely?

KO'd by Chingangu!
Klitschko knocked him spark with a shot that brushed his ear.
Bowe bounced him around like a basketball.

Imagine what Lewis would have done to him if they'd fought when Hide was calling him out. Lewis KO1.

And an utter pudendum to boot!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jul 2006, 06:52

I've never heard ANYONE say a good word about Herbie, apparently he went a bit nuts when his brother died a few years ago and has never really been the same since.

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 19 Jul 2006, 07:06

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I've never heard ANYONE say a good word about Herbie, apparently he went a bit nuts when his brother died a few years ago and has never really been the same since.

He was one of my favourite fighters in the Screensport (correct name?) days.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Jul 2006, 07:14

Its got to be a miracle he's never been banged up with his record.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 19 Jul 2006, 09:14

herbie was always a bundle of fun to watch with his dodgy chin and big punch though.

the york hall riot remains a career highpoint.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Jul 2006, 13:15

Herbie Hide vs Pele Reid anyone?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Jul 2006, 18:11

livingstone cole wrote:I've seen quite a lot of Herbies fights but what I can't understand is how he got up 6(?) times against Bowe, yet stayed down so easily at other times?

Have you seen the fight? Hide was just falling to the floor a lot of the time they weren't all from punches.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jul 2006, 18:35

Most overated multiple champion in boxing history.

A British champion

A WBC International champion (when that belt was a little harder to come by)

A two time WBO champion.......................

His best win was against Michael Bentt.

He didn't even fight a particularly decent British fighter for the vacant British title. He fought one of the worse (no disrespect) claimants to a world heavyweight title ever for his first WBO reign. Lost it in defence number 1. Then somehow got a chance to fight for vacant title (by beating on guys with losing records) vs an old junkie who looked sleepy throughout his UK stay that week.

He then defended against I would say the worst fighters to be sanctioned by a leading governing body... these made Tocker Pudwill and Kid Fire McIntyre resemble Ali. Then he lost it to Klitchsko.

Maybe overated isn't the correct word, cause he was undoubtedly talented. I would say most PROTECTED champion ever right from the begining.

I won't forget Dave Bremmer saying after Hide recovered from a KD (although not scored) to win the WBC international title that he showed some heart and a decent recovery rate - "I think he will be around for a while, he's a stayer" . The warning signs were there then as again he looked completely gone for minutes, and it wasn't even a proper punch.

Not one of Bremmer's finest moments in hindsight.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 20 Jul 2006, 02:51

Hide was a good specimen, good natural athletuic ability, a murderous puncher. In hindsight he clearly wasn't built to take heavyweight punches. Even the ones that missed his head used to knock him over. He even admitted - prior to his Canadian non-comeback - that he bulked unnaturaly on protein shakes and wasn't a proper heavyweight. Shame he didn't realize until too late, as he would have fit in well with the UK cruisers, might have been too powerful.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 20 Jul 2006, 05:13

If Herbie carried the same power at cruiser he would have been a monster. I still think his chin would be a problem even if he was fighting welterweights but not too many guys could have taken his shots. Bowe is widely reported as saying he hit him with the hardest shots in his career and regardless of the opposition level 34KOs from 35 wins isn't bad.

Would have loved to see a Hide v Moorer fight.

Total nutcase though and I doubt he'll ever be back in a boxing ring

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 20 Jul 2006, 08:48

wouter wrote:Does anyone know what he's up to these days and if he's ever going to fight again?

Herbie has always had a tendency to vanish for lengthy periods in his career, then comeback & eventually get pasted!

This time however, he seems to have been away for the longest time & couple that with fact that he's now 35 or at least getting there, I don't hold out much hope of a successful return.

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 20 Jul 2006, 11:20

It's a shame Herbie's fight with Tommy Morrison fell through.

That would have been a cracking fight.

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 20 Jul 2006, 13:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I heard he combed his hair and knocked himself out.

brushing his teeth aswell

SuperSedgy · Post by **SuperSedgy** » 20 Jul 2006, 16:43

Wasnt he supposed to come back at cruiser? Imagine him, Haye, Macca and Hobbo in the same division! Someone would be going down every 30 seconds!

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Jul 2006, 17:04

ebeneezer wrote:It's a shame Herbie's fight with Tommy Morrison fell through.

That would have been a cracking fight.

Don't get the promoters thinking.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 21 Jul 2006, 03:35

stujones wrote:
ebeneezer wrote:It's a shame Herbie's fight with Tommy Morrison fell through.

That would have been a cracking fight.

Don't get the promoters thinking.

Too late I've heard whispers of a potential Morrison v Tyson fight.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Jul 2006, 04:37

I'd only watch that out of curiosity to see if Tyson got HIV.

They should put that 'legends' tournament on and get all these matches out of the way in one night.

Tyson
Holyfield
Morrison

etc

Maybe chuck Herbie Hide in for comedy value - going down from shots that whistle past your ear sort of comedy!

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 21 Jul 2006, 04:46

remember the coverage of him beating Conroy Nelson for WBC Intercontinental belt... commentator gushes 'Oh well done Herbie, you deserved this, what a performance' as Hide dances around the ring thanking the Heavens and waving his paper title as the crowd go into hysterionics...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Jul 2006, 04:55

Imagine a prime Morrison landing a left hook on Hide? Would have decapitated him!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 22 Jul 2006, 08:03

Lenny Albert wrote:Would have loved to see a Hide v Moorer fight.

I always wanted to see Herbie Hide vs Jeremy Williams. They were of a simular size, both could punch and both could be KO'd. It could have produced some early fireworks.

Years ago when Roy Jones Jr first started talking about moving up to Heavyweight and taking on the likes of Holyfield, Tyson and Douglas I recall Hide throwing his name into the hat as he felt his combination of speed and power would have been too much for Jones Jr.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 22 Jul 2006, 08:07

nickd wrote:I'd only watch that out of curiosity to see if Tyson got HIV.

They should put that 'legends' tournament on and get all these matches out of the way in one night.

Tyson
Holyfield
Morrison

etc

Maybe chuck Herbie Hide in for comedy value - going down from shots that whistle past your ear sort of comedy!

Can we have Lewis vs Moorer there aswell - the one fight that seemed to be readily available that never happend from the Lewis generation (I'm mean Lewis fought the rest, Bowe and Foreman didn't want to know).

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