Good post. Raises some interesting points.KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 23:04Interesting postCyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.
I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.
I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.
There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.
Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.
One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.
I agree about Joe Joyce. I also would stake a bet Parker is clean.
Hughie Fury *updates*
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If the difficulty in attracting top opponents keeps Hughie off TV I’m all for it.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 05:34 Hughie Fury Struggling To Secure Top Opponents, Says Father/Trainer
Peter Fury, father and trainer of heavyweight contender Hughie Fury, explains that none of the highly ranked contenders are interested in facing his son.
The 26-year-old Hughie has remained patient while his next fight is being sorted out. He's been out of the ring since defeating Polish veteran Mariusz Wach in December.
According to his trainer, a ring return is being planned for September - but several high profile names have rejected a possible fight with him.
"Everybody realizes he's a lot better than what people say he is, so that's my opinion," Peter Fury told Sky Sports.
"Let me tell you, we've offered some high-profile people fights with Hughie - and they've looked up and said they'll fight anyone. But when Hughie is mentioned, they don't want to fight him, so that's where it's at.
"I don't want to mention any names, but that's where it is. We'll find him an opponent. He'll be fighting in September anyway. Absolutely [he's lost respect]. Boxing is becoming a bit of a soap opera. That real fighting culture, there's only so many around today. A lot of them, they are more into social media and being a celebrity than a boxer."
Last year, there was some talk of Hughie facing names like David Allen and David Price, but that won't be the direction he's taking in the fall.
"Really a fellow like Hughie, he's not a world champion, he shouldn't be struggling for fights like he is," said Peter Fury.
"He's been working on his game. He's got older, he's filled out, and he's got time on his side, so it's not been a problem for him really. There was Dave Allen, then David Price was thrown into the mix. That never happened, for whatever reasons and we just moved on from there. We're going to start looking at opponents any day now. Nothing set in stone. We're just looking around and seeing what's a good match for him at the moment. You'll see a different fighter altogether."
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When Young Fury was briefly boxing he had horrendous acne as well. At the time I was like 'hold on are this lot even trying to hide it?'Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.
I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.
I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.
There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.
Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.
One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.
You can rest your beer on Tyson's chin now as well it's grown out that much. A lot like Conor 'Oive always been vocal against steroids' McGregor.
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I would think there’s probably something in that. Especially if you’re a marginally world class fighter who wants to improve your level. It probably doesn’t help that the division leader is Anthony Joshua. I don’t think many heavyweights think, ‘okay he looks pretty good but I’m staying natty and just taking my whey protein and creatine supplements.’ I think most of them think, ‘okay how do I get on a stack and not get caught.’ I sometimes wonder if slightly faded fighters like Joseph Parker, have lost a lot of their dynamic abilities because they’ve not tolerated long term PED abuse, and have been saddled with lowered testosterone when they’ve tried to become a bit cleaner and healthier.
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Really interesting post, the theory on the fall out has a ring to it.Cyclops wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 19:38 He's just not fun to watch, and either fights binmen or loses to top 10 guys in unexciting performances.
I'm sure he's a nice lad but he's had a lot of chances already, a lot, and he just hasn't done anything to make him a ticket seller or somebody a ticket seller would want to fight.
I also don't buy all the acne bullshit. That's not a guy with a "serious skin condition", that's a tall but skinny guy on a shit ton of PEDS, probably Decca or Tren and Test amongst other things, suffering the worst side effects. IN MY OPINION.
There was a fight ages ago before Tyson hit it big and they both were on the same card and both had bad acne. I forget who they were both fighting respectively, but I recall one of them having a boil on their back that burst and the pus and blood ran down their back all night. I have no idea, but I always thought a big part of the Fury family fall out was that Peter (the man of 'iron principles' who has done two lengthy stretches behind the door for being a serious, dangerous, ruthless category A villain) had Tyson and Hughie on some grim old steroids and John and Tyson are still miffed at Peter for getting them caught. It explains Fury's 'Bi-polar' as well, especially as he popped for Decca/Nandralone and guys who are on that get banned from my gym for being too unstable while they tolerate guys on Tren who basically turn into antisocial, rude psychopaths who blow up over nothing, are often withdrawn and miserable, and apparently take months to get their personalities back to normal.
Don't get me wrong: I think all top heavies especially are on something, but I just think Peter's camp was one of the least professional at hiding it. AJ's camp have got it all sewn up.
One of the few top heavies I think is natty is Joe Joyce. I know a few people that have spent a lot of time around the guy and just based on temperament alone I don't see how he's on gear. People on gear are nightmares and even the most level headed lads will have tantrums or be difficult. I've never heard anything at all about Joyce being like that: and he isn't covered in acne, doesn't have a greasy forehead and still has his hair.
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I don't understand why they didn't take the David Price fight. Potential for a rare exciting fight for Hughie.
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That's one I wouldn't mind seeing. Might turn out to be a bit of a chess match but if nothing else they have decent skills and should turn up in decent shape. Bit of domestic relevance if nothing else.jameswilson wrote: ↑20 Jul 2021, 12:32 I don't understand why they didn't take the David Price fight. Potential for a rare exciting fight for Hughie.
For some reason, typing that I thought about the opposite, ie, turning up out of shape and having not much skill, was it Bruce Trampler in the 1980's who once infamously described a fight on a top rank show, between two out of shape heavyweights, as being like "watching two fat people fxxk".
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its tough as he has fought world champs came close so he is in the risk reward bracket at the moment daiilian whyte doubt he would want it money wont be there , take him to america could he not get a fight with Charles Martin Adam Kownacki ,Oscar Rivas no point fighting in uk david price no so
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i think no money in it now as boxing cards seem to have one big fight on them ,jameswilson wrote: ↑20 Jul 2021, 12:32 I don't understand why they didn't take the David Price fight. Potential for a rare exciting fight for Hughie.
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Any updates or rumours on fight for Hughie?
Peter seems frustrated judging by his recent tweet.
Peter seems frustrated judging by his recent tweet.
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It's a conundrum alright.
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience
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I do wonder what's going on behind the scenes he's not fought this year yet and has no fight planned.KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:00 It's a conundrum alright.
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience![]()
Also with all the media Hearn does, I can't recall him mentioning Hughie in a few months.
Mind you there's a few others Hrgovic, Joseph Parker etc the same in no mans land
In regard to Hughie he also isn't ranked by any sanctioning body so unlikely to get anything there anytime soon.
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He’s like a slightly less ambitious, ungainly version of Larry Donald. Rangy skills and no power. But instead of getting on with it awaits the big payday.
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I can tell you whats happening in the HW division, anyone who thinks they have a shot at the big boys is in a holding pattern. They get to contender and wait, and we wait. Then by the time they get their shot, they are either covered in rust, not experienced enough at high levels, or just too old.peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:15I do wonder what's going on behind the scenes he's not fought this year yet and has no fight planned.KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 18:00 It's a conundrum alright.
Thing is, the more people see of Hughie, the less they want to see.
He is just so negative. And whats worse, he is good at throwing combinations, and can bang when he lets his hands go.
The potential when he was 22, is probably still there at 26 if only he would get on the front foot in fights.
When I see his name on a fight card, I inwardly groan before even registering who his opponent is.
I refuse to write him off because he hasn't even matured as a heavyweight, but bugger me sideways he tests my patience![]()
Also with all the media Hearn does, I can't recall him mentioning Hughie in a few months.
Mind you there's a few others Hrgovic, Joseph Parker etc the same in no mans land
In regard to Hughie he also isn't ranked by any sanctioning body so unlikely to get anything there anytime soon.
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In my personal opinion the fault is not necessarily the promoters but team Fury itself. They want big fights but the problem is you have a guy who hasn't necessarily ever earned being in big fights.
When he beat that one dude for the British title, the stupidest thing that they did was basically throw that belt in the trash can instead of making defenses of that belt because whether people wanted to fight Hughie or not he'd of at least had mandatories and stayed busy while pursuing bigger fights.
They made bad decisions, and when you combine that with a man who is gun shy or so tactical to the point of being boring, it's not a good mix.
And I really like the guy. I really do. I'd like to see him one day get good enough to fight for a world title. Yes, he fought Parker for the WBO, but let's be honest here--- it was one of the dullest matches in recent memory.
Chris Byrd was more exciting than Hughie Fury, and it's going to take more than one win over a shot Mariusz Wach to change anyone's mind or perception.
Personally I would like to see him fight David Price, and why those kind of fights are not happening for him I can only assume it's because team Fury looks at such matches as backwards steps when the reality is those are the kind of fights suitable for a man of Hughie's standing in the heavyweight division.
When he beat that one dude for the British title, the stupidest thing that they did was basically throw that belt in the trash can instead of making defenses of that belt because whether people wanted to fight Hughie or not he'd of at least had mandatories and stayed busy while pursuing bigger fights.
They made bad decisions, and when you combine that with a man who is gun shy or so tactical to the point of being boring, it's not a good mix.
And I really like the guy. I really do. I'd like to see him one day get good enough to fight for a world title. Yes, he fought Parker for the WBO, but let's be honest here--- it was one of the dullest matches in recent memory.
Chris Byrd was more exciting than Hughie Fury, and it's going to take more than one win over a shot Mariusz Wach to change anyone's mind or perception.
Personally I would like to see him fight David Price, and why those kind of fights are not happening for him I can only assume it's because team Fury looks at such matches as backwards steps when the reality is those are the kind of fights suitable for a man of Hughie's standing in the heavyweight division.
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would'nt want him grabbing me in a clinch i'd spew there and then if i got a mouthful of puss
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guys, guys.....he's just a wee lad yet. still a babe. not yet got his man strength. only a tot. just a kid.
when he grows up, he'll be a beast
when he grows up, he'll be a beast
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That'll surely be his epitaph.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Aug 2021, 21:26 guys, guys.....he's just a wee lad yet. still a babe. not yet got his man strength. only a tot. just a kid.
when he grows up, he'll be a beast
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You know he is big , he's tough , he's reasonably talented ,, But there always been something odd about him to me , he just seems completly dominated by his dad , he certainly does'nt seem his own man .
I do think Hughie Fury woud benefit from moving on from his dad
I do think Hughie Fury woud benefit from moving on from his dad
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his biggest problem is that when he faces opponents who are offensive threats he becomes almost entirely focused just on not getting hit. he fights to survive and frustrate, not to win
its the mentality that needs changing more than anything physical. obviously he has some decent tools.
its the mentality that needs changing more than anything physical. obviously he has some decent tools.
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Alen Babic vs Hughie Fury would like to see that early next year.
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Hughie has reached the stage where he's had various opportunities and not really delivered. He was being shot down too early in his career when he was entitled to learn & improve, but unfortunately he's just not come good enough for Peter Fury to be talking like Hughie's being hard done by.
He's only got himself and possibly his team to blame.
He's only got himself and possibly his team to blame.
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Hughie hasn't had the obligatory 18 months out yet for it to happen this year.
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jameswilson wrote: ↑17 Aug 2021, 08:43Hughie hasn't had the obligatory 18 months out yet for it to happen this year.