David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

Who wins?

Haye - Decision
2
5%
Haye - T/KO
13
34%
Draw
1
3%
Fournier - T/KO
1
3%
Fournier - Decision
1
3%
Don't care, not interested!
20
53%
 
Total votes: 38

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David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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"David Haye to make boxing comeback at age 40 next month for fight with Joe Fournier on Oscar De La Hoya undercard"

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David Haye is set to make a boxing comeback at the age of 40 and will fight Joe Fournier on September 11 at the Staples Center in LA.

The British boxing legend – a former heavyweight and cruiserweight world champion – will return for a bout on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya’s comeback at the age of 48 against Vitor Belfort.

The show is being put on by Triller, who also staged Mike Tyson’s exhibition against Roy Jones Jr last year.

According to Mike Coppinger, Triller have now stated that Haye vs Fournier will be an eight-round contest at heavyweight.

At the time of writing, the fight has not yet been officially announced by the organisers.

The pair are known to be friends, with Fournier having previously boxed on one of Haye’s undercards back in 2016.

Fournier is an entrepreneur who moved into the nightclub industry and then became a pro boxer.

He made his debut in 2015, aged 32, and built up an unbeaten record competing mainly in the Dominican Republic.

Fournier had one win in Belgium which was subsequently ruled a no contest after he tested positive for sibutramine.

It was reported in 2017 that he was given an 18-month ban for this offence, though he would end up with no fights on his record between 2016 and 2021.

Fournier, now 38, returned to the ring on April 17 of this year, as part of the undercard for a Triller show headlined by Jake Paul vs Ben Askren.

He beat Colombian reggaeton musician Reykon and now has a record of 9-0.

Fournier usually competes in the light-heavyweight division and so will be jumping up massively to take on his friend Haye at heavyweight.


Thoughts? :confused:
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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David Haye's weighing scales read at 95.9kg in that Fight Hype video, which is only 211lbs.

He's probably lost a bit of muscle during his retirement, because he previously claimed it was a monumental struggle to compete at cruiserweight, but it's clear he'd be able to make the 200lbs weight limit with consummate ease nowadays.

I'm hoping his bout against Fournier is just a friendly sparring session between close friends.

David Haye hasn't defeated an opponent in a legitimate fight for more than nine years. And his whiskers seemed very fragile in the Bellew rematch. His body is also broken and extremely injury prone.

Joe Fourneir might be a bit of a Mark De Mori/Christopher Lovejoy fighter (i.e. a journeyman calibre white collar boxing type, with an obscenely padded record), but the 'Hayemaker' looked shockingly awful three years ago.

So this could potentially be an embarrassing banana skin (regardless as to whether he wins or loses) for the badly deteriorated Haye if his bout against Fournier isn't treated like a friendly harmless sparring session.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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"Joe Fournier to earn $6m by fighting former world champion David Haye"

Nightclub-owner Fournier will take on friend and former sparring partner Haye on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort next month

Joe Fournier claims he will earn up to $6million (£4.3m) from his heavyweight clash with David Haye.

The friends and former sparring partners will meet over eight professional rounds on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort in Los Angeles on September 11.

Haye, 40, has not fought since he was stopped for a second time by Tony Bellew three years ago, a defeat which sent him into retirement.

Fournier, 38, who has a record of 9-0, was last in action in April when he stopped Colombian singer Reykon in the second round.

And the Londoner, who will step up from light-heavyweight, insists his clash with Haye is no gimmick.

"Going up two weight divisions to fight your mentor and hero is a big deal for me," Fournier told Mirror Fighting.

"David gave me my big break when I fought at The O2 so after that we became friends but it's like when you have a bigger brother and he gets all the love and I was like the second fiddle.

"The thought had crossed my mind as to whether I would beat David now. He has more experience and a way better skill set and ring craft and intelligence but I've never lost and I think this is a much closer fight than people think."

A boozy conversation in Mykonos led to a suggestion from Haye that the pals share the ring over four rounds in the gym.

But Fournier added: "He said we would do a four-round spar but we've sparred 50-60 rounds, why would I do four rounds of sparring?

"I would be the first sparring partner for his last couple of fights as the small guy who was fast before he brought in the cruiserweights and heavyweights

"I took some confidence from those spars because I was catching him clean."

Eventually Haye agreed to a professional bout and social network Triller booked it as part of a show which will also feature UFC legends Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz in a boxing fight.

And Fournier hit back at those who claim his clash with Haye shows boxing in a bad light.

"It's a huge package financially and one we couldn't turn down," he said. "It could be worth up to $6m to me. That's the same kind of money as Billy Joe Saunders earned when he fought Canelo Alvarez; this is world title money, it's as big as it gets.

"You are always going to get people with a negative view, that's part of society. I know David and we're the two most competitive people you can meet.

"It's all friendly until you get punched in the face. The reality is, if I beat David it is a blemish on his record. He lost to Bellew but he was a world champion.

"I'm going to beat David and if I do, why can't I fight Floyd Mayweather? He fought Logan Paul and I have more integrity than him if I beat David.

"Or I could go back down to light-heavyweight and fight the other Paul (Jake).

"If I beat David the upside is huge so why wouldn't I do it? I have nothing to lose. I'm going up two divisions to fight a superstar and if I beat him people will take me seriously as a real boxer."
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 04:07 Joe Fourneir might be a bit of a Mark De Mori/Christopher Lovejoy fighter (i.e. a journeyman calibre white collar boxing type, with an obscenely padded record), but the 'Hayemaker' looked shockingly awful three years ago.

So this could potentially be an embarrassing banana skin (regardless as to whether he wins or loses) for the badly deteriorated Haye if his bout against Fournier isn't treated like a friendly harmless sparring session.
I think that in real fight even wreck of Haye wins via KO 1 vs this guy. De Mori and Gjergjaj would knock him out too.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 06:27 "Joe Fournier to earn $6m by fighting former world champion David Haye"

Nightclub-owner Fournier will take on friend and former sparring partner Haye on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort next month

Joe Fournier claims he will earn up to $6million (£4.3m) from his heavyweight clash with David Haye.


Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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:bow:
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 07:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 06:27 "Joe Fournier to earn $6m by fighting former world champion David Haye"

Nightclub-owner Fournier will take on friend and former sparring partner Haye on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort next month

Joe Fournier claims he will earn up to $6million (£4.3m) from his heavyweight clash with David Haye.


Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m

These purses are outrageous!

So many former world champion pros will be tempted to make comebacks to face social media stars, part-time white collar collar calibre journeyman or totally shot MMA fighters.

To be fair, good luck to Haye and Fournier, it’s an easy payday for both of them, but these sort of events do unfortunately devalue boxing.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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I'll be surprised if Haye makes it to the ring.

He will either stub his big toe getting out of bed, or his Achilles will snap whilst he's adjusting the climate control on his Rolls-Royce and the fight will be off.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 07:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 06:27 "Joe Fournier to earn $6m by fighting former world champion David Haye"

Nightclub-owner Fournier will take on friend and former sparring partner Haye on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort next month

Joe Fournier claims he will earn up to $6million (£4.3m) from his heavyweight clash with David Haye.


Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m


Hay isnt making simular to those purses, refuse to belive. It would have to drive viewers and i just dont think it would. unless fournier is just paying him out of his own pocket to get a heavyweight "world champ" on his resume and the fix is wayyy in... If haye makes 2 million pounds ill eat my hat. if he makes considerable over a million id be very shocked.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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LOL --where is that money coming from? because no way is fournier-haye gonna generate nearly that much, you'd have to be a total idiot to pay them like that :lol:
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 16:19 LOL --where is that money coming from? because no way is fournier-haye gonna generate nearly that much, you'd have to be a total idiot to pay them like that :lol:
People who do pay will be Haye fans, soon to find out their hero stiffed them.
This fight only tarnishes Hayes legacy even more than Tony Bellew pasting his skittery legged arse twice!!
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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I can’t imagine many people who weren’t going to buy the PPV to watch DLH Belfort buying it to see Haye Fournier.

They’re training partners, friends, and the fight was agreed between them in a bar on holiday in Mykonos. If Haye is getting $4m then the world truly has gone mad
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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that shit is shady af.

not interested in the 'fight' one bit.

but if not furrier himself who else is paying the shot haye & the shite fourier a combined 10 mil. for a pretend fight sparring session?
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Shît & shot. Haye & furnier. Seriously, who gives a crap?

The 'nightclub billionaire' foulier was wba ranked 11 or so at light heavy after winning the vacant wba 'international' belt against the highly regarded powerhouse wilmer whatever (no offence wilmer!) in the dominican rebublic in 2 rounds by knock out.

That fight is nowhere to find on funniet's boxrec page but at least that's what frouneer's wiki page says so it must be true.

Could one of our pro pi's on here maybe shed light on the affair?

the actual 'fight' isn't though an attempt at an explanation how the seemingly outlandish sums both 'shīt & shot' claim to get paid for this shiteshow could possibly make any sense may be interesting.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 16:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 07:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 06:27 "Joe Fournier to earn $6m by fighting former world champion David Haye"

Nightclub-owner Fournier will take on friend and former sparring partner Haye on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya's comeback bout against Vitor Belfort next month

Joe Fournier claims he will earn up to $6million (£4.3m) from his heavyweight clash with David Haye.


Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m


Hay isnt making simular to those purses, refuse to belive. It would have to drive viewers and i just dont think it would. unless fournier is just paying him out of his own pocket to get a heavyweight "world champ" on his resume and the fix is wayyy in... If haye makes 2 million pounds ill eat my hat. if he makes considerable over a million id be very shocked.

David Haye claimed during an interview that he's earning more for the Fournier bout than what he received for the first Bellew fight.

If those claims are true, and they very well might be, because he's competing on a PPV event that's a stacked card (involving names such as: Oscar De La Hoya, Vitor Belfort, Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz), then Haye would be rather foolish to reject the Fournier bout.

Oscar De La Hoya was once the biggest earners in the sport of boxing. For his era, he was the monetary equivalent of Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather and Canelo.

David Haye was also a massive draw in the UK, because he headlined several PPV's (i.e. Wladimir Klitschko, Nikolai Valuev, Tony Bellew (twice), Audley Harrison, John Ruiz, Dereck Chisora etc.).

For his final comeback, David Haye achieved viewing audience figures of 3m for the Mark De Mori fight and then 2½m against Arnold Gjergjaj (on a niche non-sporting digital channel).

And De La Hoya's bout against Vitor Belfort is being staged only a few days prior to Mexico Independence Day.

It's a PPV event in both the UK and US.

I'm pretty sure David Haye wouldn't consider facing Joe Fournier if he wasn't getting paid a lot of money.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 07:32
gregregegg wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 16:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 07:41

Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m
Hay isnt making simular to those purses, refuse to belive. It would have to drive viewers and i just dont think it would. unless fournier is just paying him out of his own pocket to get a heavyweight "world champ" on his resume and the fix is wayyy in... If haye makes 2 million pounds ill eat my hat. if he makes considerable over a million id be very shocked.
David Haye claimed during an interview that he's earning more for the Fournier bout than what he received for the first Bellew fight.

If those claims are true, and they very well might be, because he's competing on a PPV event that's a stacked card (involving names such as: Oscar De La Hoya, Vitor Belfort, Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz), then Haye would be rather foolish to reject the Fournier bout.

Oscar De La Hoya was once the biggest earners in the sport of boxing. For his era, he was the monetary equivalent of Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather and Canelo.

David Haye was also a massive draw in the UK, because he headlined several PPV's (i.e. Wladimir Klitschko, Nikolai Valuev, Tony Bellew (twice), Audley Harrison, John Ruiz, Dereck Chisora etc.).

For his final comeback, David Haye achieved viewing audience figures of 3m for the Mark De Mori fight and then 2½m against Arnold Gjergjaj (on a niche non-sporting digital channel).

And De La Hoya's bout against Vitor Belfort is being staged only a few days prior to Mexico Independence Day.

It's a PPV event in both the UK and US.

I'm pretty sure David Haye wouldn't consider facing Joe Fournier if he wasn't getting paid a lot of money.
So haye is getting 5.8 million+ USD to fight on an undercard (likely third on the bill, not even cheif support.) vs a much smaller non boxer, who is suspiciously his mate... Find that very very hard to belive.
Haye vs bellew 1 had people clamouring and headlined its own PPV, but that fight showed he was too far past it. Bellew 2 proved it definitivly.
The only way ill belive haye has made that much is if its completly fixed and get takes a dive and the people paying him have a big chunk of change on his opponent..
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 15:57
Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 07:32
gregregegg wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 16:13

Hay isnt making simular to those purses, refuse to belive. It would have to drive viewers and i just dont think it would. unless fournier is just paying him out of his own pocket to get a heavyweight "world champ" on his resume and the fix is wayyy in... If haye makes 2 million pounds ill eat my hat. if he makes considerable over a million id be very shocked.
David Haye claimed during an interview that he's earning more for the Fournier bout than what he received for the first Bellew fight.

If those claims are true, and they very well might be, because he's competing on a PPV event that's a stacked card (involving names such as: Oscar De La Hoya, Vitor Belfort, Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz), then Haye would be rather foolish to reject the Fournier bout.

Oscar De La Hoya was once the biggest earners in the sport of boxing. For his era, he was the monetary equivalent of Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather and Canelo.

David Haye was also a massive draw in the UK, because he headlined several PPV's (i.e. Wladimir Klitschko, Nikolai Valuev, Tony Bellew (twice), Audley Harrison, John Ruiz, Dereck Chisora etc.).

For his final comeback, David Haye achieved viewing audience figures of 3m for the Mark De Mori fight and then 2½m against Arnold Gjergjaj (on a niche non-sporting digital channel).

And De La Hoya's bout against Vitor Belfort is being staged only a few days prior to Mexico Independence Day.

It's a PPV event in both the UK and US.

I'm pretty sure David Haye wouldn't consider facing Joe Fournier if he wasn't getting paid a lot of money.
So haye is getting 5.8 million+ USD to fight on an undercard (likely third on the bill, not even cheif support.) vs a much smaller non boxer, who is suspiciously his mate... Find that very very hard to belive.
Haye vs bellew 1 had people clamouring and headlined its own PPV, but that fight showed he was too far past it. Bellew 2 proved it definitivly.
The only way ill belive haye has made that much is if its completly fixed and get takes a dive and the people paying him have a big chunk of change on his opponent..
He could also have sponsorship to boost his income. Some palliative care facility, or podiatrist franchise maybe?
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Triller! Lopez vs the Aussie is way above the loma fight.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 07:32
gregregegg wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 16:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 07:41

Apprently, Haye will be on a similar package to his recent fights.

Bellew 1 his purse was around £4.2m+
Bellew 2 his purse was upwards of around £2.4m
Hay isnt making simular to those purses, refuse to belive. It would have to drive viewers and i just dont think it would. unless fournier is just paying him out of his own pocket to get a heavyweight "world champ" on his resume and the fix is wayyy in... If haye makes 2 million pounds ill eat my hat. if he makes considerable over a million id be very shocked.
David Haye claimed during an interview that he's earning more for the Fournier bout than what he received for the first Bellew fight.

If those claims are true, and they very well might be, because he's competing on a PPV event that's a stacked card (involving names such as: Oscar De La Hoya, Vitor Belfort, Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz), then Haye would be rather foolish to reject the Fournier bout.

Oscar De La Hoya was once the biggest earners in the sport of boxing. For his era, he was the monetary equivalent of Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather and Canelo.

David Haye was also a massive draw in the UK, because he headlined several PPV's (i.e. Wladimir Klitschko, Nikolai Valuev, Tony Bellew (twice), Audley Harrison, John Ruiz, Dereck Chisora etc.).

For his final comeback, David Haye achieved viewing audience figures of 3m for the Mark De Mori fight and then 2½m against Arnold Gjergjaj (on a niche non-sporting digital channel).

And De La Hoya's bout against Vitor Belfort is being staged only a few days prior to Mexico Independence Day.

It's a PPV event in both the UK and US.

I'm pretty sure David Haye wouldn't consider facing Joe Fournier if he wasn't getting paid a lot of money.
That's a huge amount for sure.
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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6 mill. for shot haye, 4 for fvckin skint as a bint shït fournier?

what? how? why? :witzend: :brick:

again, who the heck is paying them those ridiculous sums?

how on earth should that joke of a 'fight' generate 10 mil ?
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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i dunno about haye, but his close friend joe fournier is a bullshitter of epic proportions, dont believe anything that comes from him

he also claims to have been the captain of the english basketball national team, yet he's 5'9 and his name literally doesnt come up once in the international bball database :lol:

he claims to be a billionare, but not 1 of his companies generated a profit

he claims to have dated all sorts of celebrities, even ones saying they have no idea who he is


guy is a total fantasy lander: https://www.othboxing.com/forum/index.p ... xing.7168/
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 19:37 i dunno about haye, but his close friend joe fournier is a bullshitter of epic proportions, dont believe anything that comes from him

he also claims to have been the captain of the english basketball national team, yet he's 5'9 and his name literally doesnt come up once in the international bball database :lol:

he claims to be a billionare, but not 1 of his companies generated a profit

he claims to have dated all sorts of celebrities, even ones saying they have no idea who he is


guy is a total fantasy lander: https://www.othboxing.com/forum/index.p ... xing.7168/
How does he afford his lifestyle?

If you can share that secret, it would be appreciated, ‘cause I wouldn’t mind living that way. :TU:
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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certainly not through making millions as a pro baller (another lie) :lol:

it's gotten to a point where he's told so many lies he's lost track of them, and constantly contradicts himself. that thread is a good LOL
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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'Fake' Joe Fournier :box:
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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People were dim enough to pay for Haye v Bellew .... Twice

No doubt this will excite many as well

Not me , baby :zzz:
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Re: David Haye vs. Joe Fournier - September 11, 2021

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This is now a 8 round 2 min exhibition.
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