Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 20:05 I appreciate Manny as a fighter, but people are overstating his feats.
At least ten of his fights included contractual weight stipulations. Other bouts where he's fought guys outside of their natural habitat.
Pacquiao is an all-time-great, but the weight stipulations, coupled with his regular refusal to undergo proper random unannounced blood based durg testin, seem to be elephants in the room, which are being ignored by everyone.
Like them or loathe them, these issues are a permanent part of his legacy and will always be associated with his name.
I'll leave it right there.
OK, no worries.
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The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 21:22
Pac weight stipulations =
Canelo weight stipulations = searching the internet for hours in an attempt to try to cover it up....yet failing big time
Team Kovalev denied the existence of a rehydration clause for Krusher’s fight against Canelo.
There’s a video of Sergey’s manager clearly stating this.
You’ve seen it. You’ve commented on it. And you don’t believe it, because the truth doesn’t adhere to your preferred narrative.
The names I listed that fought Pacquiao whilst having to agree to contractual weight stipulations is an accurate portrayal of real-world historical events.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Are you suggesting that I’m lying or applying double-standards? I haven't claimed something that isn't factually-accurate.
The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 21:22
Pac weight stipulations =
Canelo weight stipulations = searching the internet for hours in an attempt to try to cover it up....yet failing big time
Team Kovalev denied the existence of a rehydration clause for Krusher’s fight against Canelo.
There’s a video of Sergey’s manager clearly stating this.
You’ve seen it. You’ve commented on it. And you don’t believe it, because the truth doesn’t adhere to your preferred narrative.
The names I listed that fought Pacquiao whilst having to agree to contractual weight stipulations is an accurate portrayal of real-world historical events.
Do you believe I’m lying?
So easy to drag you back in.
I previously asked you (twice) what were the specific words that Kovalev's manager 'clearly stated' in the video to confirm there was no rehydration clause, yet you never answered.
So yes, if you can't reply this time, then you are lying
The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 21:22
Pac weight stipulations =
Canelo weight stipulations = searching the internet for hours in an attempt to try to cover it up....yet failing big time
Team Kovalev denied the existence of a rehydration clause for Krusher’s fight against Canelo.
There’s a video of Sergey’s manager clearly stating this.
You’ve seen it. You’ve commented on it. And you don’t believe it, because the truth doesn’t adhere to your preferred narrative.
The names I listed that fought Pacquiao whilst having to agree to contractual weight stipulations is an accurate portrayal of real-world historical events.
Do you believe I’m lying?
So easy to drag you back in.
I previously asked you (twice) what were the specific words that Kovalev's manager 'clearly stated' in the video to confirm there was no rehydration clause, yet you never answered.
So yes, if you can't reply this time, then you are lying
Are you now pretending you've never seen these posts, which contains one of your quotes?
Now I can see you've again posted up that video, which is quite frankly very weird behaviour and just cluttering up the thread. So why have you posted it up again?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:11
Team Kovalev denied the existence of a rehydration clause for Krusher’s fight against Canelo.
There’s a video of Sergey’s manager clearly stating this.
You’ve seen it. You’ve commented on it. And you don’t believe it, because the truth doesn’t adhere to your preferred narrative.
The names I listed that fought Pacquiao whilst having to agree to contractual weight stipulations is an accurate portrayal of real-world historical events.
Do you believe I’m lying?
So easy to drag you back in.
I previously asked you (twice) what were the specific words that Kovalev's manager 'clearly stated' in the video to confirm there was no rehydration clause, yet you never answered.
So yes, if you can't reply this time, then you are lying
Are you now pretending you've never seen these posts, which contains one of your quotes?
Now I can see you've again posted up that video, which is quite frankly very weird behaviour and just cluttering up the thread. So why have you posted it up again?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
See, you can't actually quote his words because he doesn't say anything to confirm it.
Prove me wrong and quote his exact words, oh Lying-One. I bet you can't.
ironbeard wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 13:09
Manny was the 2nd greatest net positive on boxing in my lifetime, behind only Ali, IMO. He won’t likely be surpassed in that regard.
The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:14 So easy to drag you back in.
I previously asked you (twice) what were the specific words that Kovalev's manager 'clearly stated' in the video to confirm there was no rehydration clause, yet you never answered.
So yes, if you can't reply this time, then you are lying
Are you now pretending you've never seen these posts, which contains one of your quotes?
The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Aug 2021, 11:26Because according to various sources there was a rehydration clause. Here's one right here:
Now I can see you've again posted up that video, which is quite frankly very weird behaviour and just cluttering up the thread. So why have you posted it up again?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
See, you can't actually quote his words because he doesn't say anything to confirm it.
Prove me wrong and quote his exact words, oh Lying-One. I bet you can't.
The video clearly confirms his denial of the existence of a rehydration clause.
If you want to believe otherwise, then that’s up to you.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:22
Are you now pretending you've never seen these posts, which contains one of your quotes?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
See, you can't actually quote his words because he doesn't say anything to confirm it.
Prove me wrong and quote his exact words, oh Lying-One. I bet you can't.
The video clearly confirms his denial of the existence of a rehydration clause.
If you want to believe otherwise, then that’s up to you.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
So you can't prove me wrong and still can't quote him Lying-One because he doesn't confirm it at all.
So the media reported something that Team Kovalev denied.
It’s not the first time this has happened.
If you prefer to believe journalists who can’t cite sources and weren’t privvy to the contract negotiations or stipulations, rather than the fighter’s own manager, then that’s up to you.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
So the media reported something that Team Kovalev denied.
It’s not the first time this has happened.
If you prefer to believe a journalist who wasn’t privvy to the contract negotiations or stipulations, rather than the fighter’s own manager, then that’s up to you.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Only team Kovalev and his manager never denied it.
It's funny watching you squirm again though. Keep going with your standard repetition tactics, I can see you've nothing new to add.
So the media reported something that Team Kovalev denied.
It’s not the first time this has happened.
If you prefer to believe a journalist who wasn’t privvy to the contract negotiations or stipulations, rather than the fighter’s own manager, then that’s up to you.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Only team Kovalev and his manager never denied it.
It's funny watching you squirm again though. Keep going with your standard repetition tactics, I can see you've nothing new to add.
Not squirming.
The video speaks for itself.
You can’t cite any sources to contradict the claims made by Sergey’s own manager.
Claims made by journalists that aren’t supported by any proof, fails to trump Kilmas’s own words.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:42
So the media reported something that Team Kovalev denied.
It’s not the first time this has happened.
If you prefer to believe a journalist who wasn’t privvy to the contract negotiations or stipulations, rather than the fighter’s own manager, then that’s up to you.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Only team Kovalev and his manager never denied it.
It's funny watching you squirm again though. Keep going with your standard repetition tactics, I can see you've nothing new to add.
Not squirming.
The video speaks for itself.
You can’t cite any sources to contradict the claims made by Sergey’s own manager.
Claims made by journalists that aren’t supported by any proof, fails to trump Kilmas’s own words.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Called it on the repetition. You're very predictable Monotonous-One.
You clearly don't even know what Klimas (at least get his name right! ) words were.
The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:54You clearly don't even know what Klimas (at least get his name right! ) words were.
So now your desperately claiming that a simple spelling mistake (misspelling Egis’ surname) completely invalidates the factually-accurate claims I’ve conveyed?
I assume you’ve never made a spelling mistake throughout your entire life?
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The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:54You clearly don't even know what Klimas (at least get his name right! ) words were.
So now your desperately claiming that a simple spelling mistake (misspelling Egis’ surname) completely invalidates the factually-accurate claims I’ve conveyed?
I assume you’ve never made a spelling mistake throughout your entire life?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Now you're trying to sidetrack
You clearly haven't even watched the video you posted up.
The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:54You clearly don't even know what Klimas (at least get his name right! ) words were.
So now your desperately claiming that a simple spelling mistake (misspelling Egis’ surname) completely invalidates the factually-accurate claims I’ve conveyed?
I assume you’ve never made a spelling mistake throughout your entire life?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Now you're trying to sidetrack
You clearly haven't even watched the video you posted up.
I had to do a quick spell check for monotonous.
You have no evidence to support your claims.
I have posted a video of Sergey’s own manager conveying the facts.
The video speaks for itself.
End of discussion. We’ve exhausted all avenues.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Aug 2021, 05:58
So now your desperately claiming that a simple spelling mistake (misspelling Egis’ surname) completely invalidates the factually-accurate claims I’ve conveyed?
I assume you’ve never made a spelling mistake throughout your entire life?
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
Now you're trying to sidetrack
You clearly haven't even watched the video you posted up.
I had to do a quick spell check for monotonous.
You have no evidence to support your claims.
I have posted a video of Sergey’s own manager conveying the facts.
The video speaks for itself.
End of discussion. We’ve exhausted all avenues.
Chris Alieri, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Eric Morales, Shane Mosley, Timothy Bradley and Brandon Rios.
No problem, you want to end it here, great for everyone.
Going out too scared to quote from your own source because it proves you wrong.
