Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao
1: Mayweather 10-9
2: Mayweather 10-9
3: Mayweather 10-9
4: Pacquiao 10-9
5: Mayweather 10-9
6: Pacquiao 10-9
7: Mayweather 10-9
8: Mayweather 10-9
9: Mayweather 10-9
10: Mayweather 10-9
11: Mayweather 10-9
12: Mayweather 10-9
Total: Mayweather 118-110
Mayweather outboxed Pacquiao in a one-sided fashion. Floyd kept the distance, he was faster, Pac wasn't able neither to find a proper punching range nor to time good shots.
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Lennox Lewis vs Tony Tucker
1: Tucker 10-9
2: Lewis 10-9
3: Lewis 10-8 (Tucker down)
4: Lewis 10-9
5: Lewis 10-9
6: Lewis 10-9
7: Lewis 10-9
8: Lewis 10-9
9: Lewis 10-9 (despite Tucker down)
10: Tucker 10-9
11: Tucker 10-9
12: Lewis 10-9
Total: Lewis 117-110
The start was close. Lewis dropped Tucker in the 3rd, since then he got confidence, although remained cautious. Lewis was outboxing Tucker for round after another. In the 8th a tactical affair turned to a slugfest, Tucker ended up wobbled. In the 9th Lewis knocked down Tucker early on, but slowed down afterwards, Tucker made a sorta comeback, that's why I had it 10-9. Lewis blew the ending a bit, but still managed to win the final round confidenty. Overall, clearly Lewis' fight.
1: Tucker 10-9
2: Lewis 10-9
3: Lewis 10-8 (Tucker down)
4: Lewis 10-9
5: Lewis 10-9
6: Lewis 10-9
7: Lewis 10-9
8: Lewis 10-9
9: Lewis 10-9 (despite Tucker down)
10: Tucker 10-9
11: Tucker 10-9
12: Lewis 10-9
Total: Lewis 117-110
The start was close. Lewis dropped Tucker in the 3rd, since then he got confidence, although remained cautious. Lewis was outboxing Tucker for round after another. In the 8th a tactical affair turned to a slugfest, Tucker ended up wobbled. In the 9th Lewis knocked down Tucker early on, but slowed down afterwards, Tucker made a sorta comeback, that's why I had it 10-9. Lewis blew the ending a bit, but still managed to win the final round confidenty. Overall, clearly Lewis' fight.
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Lennox Lewis vs Zeljko Mavrovic
1: Lewis 10-9
2: Lewis 10-9
3: Lewis 10-9
4: Mavrovic 10-9
5: Lewis 10-9
6: Lewis 10-9
7: Mavrovic 10-9
8: Lewis 10-9
9: Lewis 10-9
10: Lewis 10-9
11: Lewis 10-9
12: Lewis 10-9
Total score: Lewis 118-110
Lewis comfortably outboxed Mavrovic. There's a sorta myth, that it was a hard fight for Lennox, but he looked bothered only in the 7th round, when he missed several shots and was backed up to the ropes. Apart from that, it was hard to find more Mavrovic's rounds, I gave him only one more. The main difficulty for Lewis was in Zeljko's chin. Marvrovic was taking numerous clean right crosses and uppercuts, his chin was simply granite.
1: Lewis 10-9
2: Lewis 10-9
3: Lewis 10-9
4: Mavrovic 10-9
5: Lewis 10-9
6: Lewis 10-9
7: Mavrovic 10-9
8: Lewis 10-9
9: Lewis 10-9
10: Lewis 10-9
11: Lewis 10-9
12: Lewis 10-9
Total score: Lewis 118-110
Lewis comfortably outboxed Mavrovic. There's a sorta myth, that it was a hard fight for Lennox, but he looked bothered only in the 7th round, when he missed several shots and was backed up to the ropes. Apart from that, it was hard to find more Mavrovic's rounds, I gave him only one more. The main difficulty for Lewis was in Zeljko's chin. Marvrovic was taking numerous clean right crosses and uppercuts, his chin was simply granite.
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Evander Holyfield vs John Ruiz
#1
1: Ruiz 10-9
2: Ruiz 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Ruiz 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Holyfield 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Ruiz 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
11: Ruiz 10-9
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 115-114
A quite bad fight, lackluster to that extent, that there was no clear winner. I don’t understand, why the Showtime commentators were so obsessed with Ruiz and argued with the decision, which was close anyway. Holyfield was way past prime since this fight, but Ruiz was just a sh!t and a sissy. Ruiz was jab-and-grabbing in his trademark fashion, he showed some real aggression only before the 3rd round, where he was smacked and wobbled. Ruiz was spoiling the fight, while Richard Steele was warning Holyfield for throwing away the clinching Ruiz. It was a one of the worst bouts of Steele actually. Holyfield wobbled Ruiz again in the 10th, after what he hurt Ruiz with a body shot and Ruiz went down to pretend like a sissy that he had been hit low, while Steele counted that exactly as a low blow. It wasn’t a low blow clearly on the replay. Ruiz also arguably was down in the 12th, where Holyfield was generally overwhelming him, but there was no replay to be sure for 100%. Ironically, the moronic Ruiz’ coach was blaming Steele after the fight, as if Steele had allowed Holyfield to fight dirty, while Holyfield didn’t do anything really bad through the fight.
#2
1: 10-10
2: Ruiz 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Ruiz 10-9
5: Holyfield 10-9
6: Ruiz 10-9
7: Holyfield 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: 9-9 (Holyfield deducted a point)
11: Ruiz 10-8 (Holyfield down)
12: Ruiz 10-9
Total: Ruiz 114-113
At first the fight was going better than the previous bout, as Holyfield calculated Ruiz since the first meeting and Evander was gradually beating the clinching sissy up. However, the ending was awful. In the 10th Holyfield hit Ruiz at the beltline and then to the head, after what Ruiz was hurt and went down for a long period of time, while Joe Cortez made a horrible mistake of not just counting it as a low blow, but deducting Holyfield a point. After the sissy Ruiz spent 3 minutes crying and resting, he intentionally hit Holyfield very low, after what Holyfield, of course, continued to fight like a man, while Cortez didn’t penalize Ruiz back. In the 11th Ruiz managed to catch Holyfield and knock him down, after what he finished strong and pulled out a win.
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1: Ruiz 10-9
2: Holyfield 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: 10-10
6: Ruiz 10-9
7: 10-10
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
11: 10-10
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 118-113
This time it wasn’t even close, although overall the fight was the slowest in the trilogy. A disgusting robbery. Holyfield should have been given a decision, because he vastly outworked Ruiz, edged with the scored punches and significantly outlanded Ruiz with the power punches.
#1
1: Ruiz 10-9
2: Ruiz 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Ruiz 10-9
6: 10-10
7: Holyfield 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Ruiz 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
11: Ruiz 10-9
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 115-114
A quite bad fight, lackluster to that extent, that there was no clear winner. I don’t understand, why the Showtime commentators were so obsessed with Ruiz and argued with the decision, which was close anyway. Holyfield was way past prime since this fight, but Ruiz was just a sh!t and a sissy. Ruiz was jab-and-grabbing in his trademark fashion, he showed some real aggression only before the 3rd round, where he was smacked and wobbled. Ruiz was spoiling the fight, while Richard Steele was warning Holyfield for throwing away the clinching Ruiz. It was a one of the worst bouts of Steele actually. Holyfield wobbled Ruiz again in the 10th, after what he hurt Ruiz with a body shot and Ruiz went down to pretend like a sissy that he had been hit low, while Steele counted that exactly as a low blow. It wasn’t a low blow clearly on the replay. Ruiz also arguably was down in the 12th, where Holyfield was generally overwhelming him, but there was no replay to be sure for 100%. Ironically, the moronic Ruiz’ coach was blaming Steele after the fight, as if Steele had allowed Holyfield to fight dirty, while Holyfield didn’t do anything really bad through the fight.
#2
1: 10-10
2: Ruiz 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Ruiz 10-9
5: Holyfield 10-9
6: Ruiz 10-9
7: Holyfield 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: 9-9 (Holyfield deducted a point)
11: Ruiz 10-8 (Holyfield down)
12: Ruiz 10-9
Total: Ruiz 114-113
At first the fight was going better than the previous bout, as Holyfield calculated Ruiz since the first meeting and Evander was gradually beating the clinching sissy up. However, the ending was awful. In the 10th Holyfield hit Ruiz at the beltline and then to the head, after what Ruiz was hurt and went down for a long period of time, while Joe Cortez made a horrible mistake of not just counting it as a low blow, but deducting Holyfield a point. After the sissy Ruiz spent 3 minutes crying and resting, he intentionally hit Holyfield very low, after what Holyfield, of course, continued to fight like a man, while Cortez didn’t penalize Ruiz back. In the 11th Ruiz managed to catch Holyfield and knock him down, after what he finished strong and pulled out a win.
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1: Ruiz 10-9
2: Holyfield 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: 10-10
6: Ruiz 10-9
7: 10-10
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
11: 10-10
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 118-113
This time it wasn’t even close, although overall the fight was the slowest in the trilogy. A disgusting robbery. Holyfield should have been given a decision, because he vastly outworked Ruiz, edged with the scored punches and significantly outlanded Ruiz with the power punches.
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Evander Holyfield vs Larry Holmes
1: Holyfield 10-9
2: Holmes 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Holmes 10-9
6: Holyfield 10-9
7: Holmes 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: 10-10
11: Holmes 10-9
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 116-113
A nice bout. Larry Holmes, who was undergoing a kinda second youth, was in a good mood that night. At the announcement, when Buffer said, that Holmes had 15 title defences, Larry immediately interfered the announcement, came close to Buffer and shouted in the microphone: "Twoney!". Holmes did some good rope-and-dope. In the 2nd round Larry won it standing in the Holyfield's corner. After the round Holmes made fun of Lou Duva and Mills Lane, when he was refusing to go from Evander's corner for a couple of seconds. Larry was able to steal some other rounds, but generally Holyfield was on his punching range outscoring Holmes with combinations. Later in the fight Holyfield prefered to work from the outside. A good effort from aging Holmes against the prime Holyfield, but Evander was clearly in control, scored more and landed the biggest shots.
1: Holyfield 10-9
2: Holmes 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Holmes 10-9
6: Holyfield 10-9
7: Holmes 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-9
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: 10-10
11: Holmes 10-9
12: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 116-113
A nice bout. Larry Holmes, who was undergoing a kinda second youth, was in a good mood that night. At the announcement, when Buffer said, that Holmes had 15 title defences, Larry immediately interfered the announcement, came close to Buffer and shouted in the microphone: "Twoney!". Holmes did some good rope-and-dope. In the 2nd round Larry won it standing in the Holyfield's corner. After the round Holmes made fun of Lou Duva and Mills Lane, when he was refusing to go from Evander's corner for a couple of seconds. Larry was able to steal some other rounds, but generally Holyfield was on his punching range outscoring Holmes with combinations. Later in the fight Holyfield prefered to work from the outside. A good effort from aging Holmes against the prime Holyfield, but Evander was clearly in control, scored more and landed the biggest shots.
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Evander Holyfield vs Ray Mercer
1: Holyfield 10-9
2: Mercer 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Holyfield 10-9
6: Mercer 10-9
7: Mercer 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-8 (Mercer down)
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 97-92
The fight started as a slugfest. Holyfield was generally better in brawling with the cleaner and harder shots. In the middle of the bout it turned to a tactical affair, where Mercer was better mostly. In the 8th round Mercer was hurt and took a knee, after what he wasn't able to fully recover and Holyfield slugged his way to a win. A great fight.
1: Holyfield 10-9
2: Mercer 10-9
3: Holyfield 10-9
4: Holyfield 10-9
5: Holyfield 10-9
6: Mercer 10-9
7: Mercer 10-9
8: Holyfield 10-8 (Mercer down)
9: Holyfield 10-9
10: Holyfield 10-9
Total: Holyfield 97-92
The fight started as a slugfest. Holyfield was generally better in brawling with the cleaner and harder shots. In the middle of the bout it turned to a tactical affair, where Mercer was better mostly. In the 8th round Mercer was hurt and took a knee, after what he wasn't able to fully recover and Holyfield slugged his way to a win. A great fight.
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Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones
1: Jones
2: Clay
3: Clay
4: Clay
5: Jones
6: Jones
7: Clay
8: Jones
9: Clay
10: Clay
Total: Clay 6-4
Jones appeared to be tough, he landed the biggest shots, arguably scored a KD in the 1st, but he got outworked and outlanded quite clearly.
1: Jones
2: Clay
3: Clay
4: Clay
5: Jones
6: Jones
7: Clay
8: Jones
9: Clay
10: Clay
Total: Clay 6-4
Jones appeared to be tough, he landed the biggest shots, arguably scored a KD in the 1st, but he got outworked and outlanded quite clearly.
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Eusebio Pedroza vs Rocky Lockridge
#1
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Lockridge 10-9
4: Lockridge 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Pedroza 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Pedroza 10-9
9: Pedroza 10-9
10: Pedroza 10-9
11: Pedroza 10-9
12: Pedroza 10-9
13: Lockridge 10-9
14: Pedroza 10-9
15: Pedroza 10-9
Total score: Pedroza 143-142
Pedroza started slow, he was doing very little in the first 5 rounds. In the 5th he could have even been given a count, as he sat on the ropes after absorbing a shot and was pushed back to his feet off the ropes. After that round he started to get back into the fight. Lockridge's aggression became way less effective in the second half of the bout. The 14th was terrible for Rocky. It was a very close fight, some rounds were dodgy, especially 6th and 8th. Pedroza finished better for sure. I feel him edgeing overall.
#2
1: Pedroza 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Pedroza 10-9
4: Pedroza 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Pedroza 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Pedroza 10-9
10: Lockridge 10-9
11: Lockridge 10-9
12: Pedroza 10-9
13: Pedroza 10-9
14: Lockridge 10-9
15: Pedroza 10-9
Total score: Pedroza 143-142
A very close fight again, but this time with multiple shifts of momentum. It's a one of the most nightmarish bouts to score actually. Lockridge's aggression was way more effective through the fight than in the first encounter. This time there were less damage scored and more mutual plodding. Pedroza fought off the ropes effectively, he was a faster fighter and looked a bit more convincing.
#1
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Lockridge 10-9
4: Lockridge 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Pedroza 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Pedroza 10-9
9: Pedroza 10-9
10: Pedroza 10-9
11: Pedroza 10-9
12: Pedroza 10-9
13: Lockridge 10-9
14: Pedroza 10-9
15: Pedroza 10-9
Total score: Pedroza 143-142
Pedroza started slow, he was doing very little in the first 5 rounds. In the 5th he could have even been given a count, as he sat on the ropes after absorbing a shot and was pushed back to his feet off the ropes. After that round he started to get back into the fight. Lockridge's aggression became way less effective in the second half of the bout. The 14th was terrible for Rocky. It was a very close fight, some rounds were dodgy, especially 6th and 8th. Pedroza finished better for sure. I feel him edgeing overall.
#2
1: Pedroza 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Pedroza 10-9
4: Pedroza 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Pedroza 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Pedroza 10-9
10: Lockridge 10-9
11: Lockridge 10-9
12: Pedroza 10-9
13: Pedroza 10-9
14: Lockridge 10-9
15: Pedroza 10-9
Total score: Pedroza 143-142
A very close fight again, but this time with multiple shifts of momentum. It's a one of the most nightmarish bouts to score actually. Lockridge's aggression was way more effective through the fight than in the first encounter. This time there were less damage scored and more mutual plodding. Pedroza fought off the ropes effectively, he was a faster fighter and looked a bit more convincing.
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Doc, I really need to check out #2. Haven't seen it since it took place. But here's #1
Eusebio Pedroza v Rocky Lockridge I
Round 1: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 2: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 6: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 9: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 10: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 11: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 12: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 13: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 14: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 15: 10-9 Lockridge
145-143 Pedroza
Very close fight, but Pedroza was fortunate to have the WBA's house referee Stanley Christodolou working that fight. There are many referees who would have taken points from Pedroza for those repeated low-blows. Christodolou just repeated throughout 'keep them up', which was pointless. Still, great fight.
Eusebio Pedroza v Rocky Lockridge I
Round 1: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 2: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 6: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 9: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 10: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 11: 10-9 Lockridge
Round 12: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 13: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 14: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 15: 10-9 Lockridge
145-143 Pedroza
Very close fight, but Pedroza was fortunate to have the WBA's house referee Stanley Christodolou working that fight. There are many referees who would have taken points from Pedroza for those repeated low-blows. Christodolou just repeated throughout 'keep them up', which was pointless. Still, great fight.
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Wilfredo Gomez vs Rocky Lockridge
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Gomez 10-9
4: Lockridge 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Lockridge 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Lockridge 10-9
10: Lockridge 10-9
11: Gomez 10-9
12: Gomez 10-9
13: Gomez 10-9
14: Gomez 10-9
15: Gomez 10-9
Total: Lockridge 144-141
A big robbery. It was competetive, but the outcome was clear. It was just a hometown dec for Gomez. The fight started as a slugfest, but Rocky was edgeing and by the middle of the bout it became utterly one-sided. Gomez looked ready to go at some points. Somehow in the last third of the distance Gomez found the second wind, while Lockridge tired, but Wilfredo was simply too late.
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Gomez 10-9
4: Lockridge 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Lockridge 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Lockridge 10-9
10: Lockridge 10-9
11: Gomez 10-9
12: Gomez 10-9
13: Gomez 10-9
14: Gomez 10-9
15: Gomez 10-9
Total: Lockridge 144-141
A big robbery. It was competetive, but the outcome was clear. It was just a hometown dec for Gomez. The fight started as a slugfest, but Rocky was edgeing and by the middle of the bout it became utterly one-sided. Gomez looked ready to go at some points. Somehow in the last third of the distance Gomez found the second wind, while Lockridge tired, but Wilfredo was simply too late.
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Julio Cesar Chavez vs Rocky Lockridge
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Chavez 10-9
3: Lockridge 10-9
4: Chavez 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Chavez 10-9
7: Chavez 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Chavez 10-9
10: Chavez 10-9
11: Chavez 10-9
12: Chavez 10-9
Total score: Chavez 116-112
Lockridge had a good effort and it was a competetive fight, but the longer it went, it was more clear, who was the boss. Chavez worked well on the backfoot, avoided Rocky's biggest shots, countered excellently, delivered more damage.
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Chavez 10-9
3: Lockridge 10-9
4: Chavez 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Chavez 10-9
7: Chavez 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Chavez 10-9
10: Chavez 10-9
11: Chavez 10-9
12: Chavez 10-9
Total score: Chavez 116-112
Lockridge had a good effort and it was a competetive fight, but the longer it went, it was more clear, who was the boss. Chavez worked well on the backfoot, avoided Rocky's biggest shots, countered excellently, delivered more damage.
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Michael Dokes vs Randall Tex Cobb
#1
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Dokes 10-9
3: Dokes 10-9
4: Dokes 10-9
5: Dokes 10-9
6: Dokes 10-9
7: Cobb 10-9
8: Cobb 10-9
9: Cobb 10-9
10: Dokes 10-9
Total score: Dokes 96-94
In the first round Cobb was aggressive, Dokes was adapting. Since the 2nd Dokes was in charge. Cobb finally found his target in the second half of the fight, but it was too late and Dokes still finished stronger.
#2
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Cobb 10-9
3: Dokes 10-9
4: Clash of heads and TD
Before stoppage: Cobb 29-28
A quite close affair. The fight was stopped too early, no one had established a clear dominance yet, but Cobb had a bit better start with effective aggression.
#1
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Dokes 10-9
3: Dokes 10-9
4: Dokes 10-9
5: Dokes 10-9
6: Dokes 10-9
7: Cobb 10-9
8: Cobb 10-9
9: Cobb 10-9
10: Dokes 10-9
Total score: Dokes 96-94
In the first round Cobb was aggressive, Dokes was adapting. Since the 2nd Dokes was in charge. Cobb finally found his target in the second half of the fight, but it was too late and Dokes still finished stronger.
#2
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Cobb 10-9
3: Dokes 10-9
4: Clash of heads and TD
Before stoppage: Cobb 29-28
A quite close affair. The fight was stopped too early, no one had established a clear dominance yet, but Cobb had a bit better start with effective aggression.
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Randall Tex Cobb vs Leon Spinks
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Cobb 10-9
3: Cobb 10-9
4: Cobb 10-9
5: Spinks 10-9
6: Cobb 10-9
7: Cobb 10-9
8: Spinks 10-9
9: Spinks 10-9
10: Spinks 10-9
Total score: Cobb 96-94
It should have been 4 rounds instead of 10. Both were way past prime, especially Leon. In the early rounds it was a fun brawl of bouncers. Cobb was aggressive and imposed a straightforward fight. Yet both tired by the mid rounds, since then the bout turned to a dull affair, a brawl of the drunken bouncers. There was slow swinging with no power in it, there was pushing and hugging. Cobb tired more because of the early aggression, he could barely stand in the late rounds, that's why Spinks was looking better there. Overall, Cobb did more through the fight. It was fun to watch for 3 rounds, it was an ugly contest in general.
1: Cobb 10-9
2: Cobb 10-9
3: Cobb 10-9
4: Cobb 10-9
5: Spinks 10-9
6: Cobb 10-9
7: Cobb 10-9
8: Spinks 10-9
9: Spinks 10-9
10: Spinks 10-9
Total score: Cobb 96-94
It should have been 4 rounds instead of 10. Both were way past prime, especially Leon. In the early rounds it was a fun brawl of bouncers. Cobb was aggressive and imposed a straightforward fight. Yet both tired by the mid rounds, since then the bout turned to a dull affair, a brawl of the drunken bouncers. There was slow swinging with no power in it, there was pushing and hugging. Cobb tired more because of the early aggression, he could barely stand in the late rounds, that's why Spinks was looking better there. Overall, Cobb did more through the fight. It was fun to watch for 3 rounds, it was an ugly contest in general.
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I disagree with your take on their first fight somewhat. I have Ward edging the 3rd and the 8th, giving me a 114-113 to Ward scorecard. When I rewatched it, I had it the same again except I gave Kovalev the 12th, making it 114-113 Kovalev. Definitely way close to call a robbery, except for the 10th round, which was a very clear Kovalev round, yet all three judges scored it for Ward, which is a bit fishy.DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 14:57 Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward
#1
1: Kovalev 10-9
2: Kovalev 10-8 (Ward down)
3: Kovalev 10-9
4: Kovalev 10-9
5: Ward 10-9
6: Kovalev 10-9
7: Ward 10-9
8: Kovalev 10-9
9: Ward 10-9
10: Kovalev 10-9
11: Ward 10-9
12: Ward 10-9
Total score: Kovalev 115-112
Robbery. Kovalev controlled the fight, visibly outlanded Ward, hurt him more, while didn't look bothered himself. Kovalev's rounds were his clearly. Ward's rounds were close.
#2
1: Ward 10-9
2: Kovalev 10-9
3: Kovalev 10-9
4: Ward 10-9
5: Ward 10-9
6: Kovalev 10-9
7: Ward 10-9
8: Ward TKO
Total score before the stoppage: Ward 67-66
Highly disputable bout and a close one before the final round. Kovalev fought like in the 1st meeting. Ward made adjustments. Ward's jab was sharper than before, his right hand was more frequent and powerful, his body work was better, but it was foulish on some occasions indeed. Yes, a lot of shots were borderline, but the last one was clearly low. Even if to count it as legit, the stoppage still sucked, Kovalev should have at least been given a count.
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For what it's worth, here's my card. Just a very close fight, which I believe people will argue about for decades.jezzamundo wrote: ↑26 Nov 2021, 09:53I disagree with your take on their first fight somewhat. I have Ward edging the 3rd and the 8th, giving me a 114-113 to Ward scorecard. When I rewatched it, I had it the same again except I gave Kovalev the 12th, making it 114-113 Kovalev. Definitely way close to call a robbery, except for the 10th round, which was a very clear Kovalev round, yet all three judges scored it for Ward, which is a bit fishy.DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 14:57 Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward
#1
1: Kovalev 10-9
2: Kovalev 10-8 (Ward down)
3: Kovalev 10-9
4: Kovalev 10-9
5: Ward 10-9
6: Kovalev 10-9
7: Ward 10-9
8: Kovalev 10-9
9: Ward 10-9
10: Kovalev 10-9
11: Ward 10-9
12: Ward 10-9
Total score: Kovalev 115-112
Robbery. Kovalev controlled the fight, visibly outlanded Ward, hurt him more, while didn't look bothered himself. Kovalev's rounds were his clearly. Ward's rounds were close.
#2
1: Ward 10-9
2: Kovalev 10-9
3: Kovalev 10-9
4: Ward 10-9
5: Ward 10-9
6: Kovalev 10-9
7: Ward 10-9
8: Ward TKO
Total score before the stoppage: Ward 67-66
Highly disputable bout and a close one before the final round. Kovalev fought like in the 1st meeting. Ward made adjustments. Ward's jab was sharper than before, his right hand was more frequent and powerful, his body work was better, but it was foulish on some occasions indeed. Yes, a lot of shots were borderline, but the last one was clearly low. Even if to count it as legit, the stoppage still sucked, Kovalev should have at least been given a count.
Sergey Kovalev v Andre Ward
Round 1: 10-9 Kovalev
Round 2: 10-8 Kovalev (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Kovalev
Round 5: 10-9 Ward
Round 6: 10-9 Kovalev
Round 7: 10-9 Ward
Round 8: 10-9 Ward
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Kovalev
Round 11: 10-9 Ward
Round 12: 10-9 Ward
Total: 115-114 Kovalev (actual scores: 114-113 x 3 for Ward)
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margaret thatcher
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kov won the first fight, these dudes scoring for ward are giving him every benefit of the doubt and then some
ward bossed him in the redo though, broke his heart and his balls
ward bossed him in the redo though, broke his heart and his balls
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jezzamundo
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Again, I think it's too close and could reasonably go either way. Kovalev won his rounds more clearly, but he only clearly won rounds 1, 2, 4, 6 and 10. I was rooting for Kovalev, but still gave Ward all of the close rounds on my first viewing.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2021, 16:41 kov won the first fight, these dudes scoring for ward are giving him every benefit of the doubt and then some
ward bossed him in the redo though, broke his heart and his balls
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margaret thatcher
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dat every benefit
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George Foreman vs Axel Schulz
1: Schulz 10-9
2: Foreman 10-9
3: Schulz 10-9
4: Schulz 10-9
5: Schulz 10-9
6: Schulz 10-9
7: Schulz 10-9
8: Schulz 10-9
9: Schulz 10-9
10: Schulz 10-9
11: Foreman 10-9
12: Schulz 10-9
Total: Schulz 118-110
A big robbery. Slow George was walking onto Schulz' punches all night long. Punchstats provided some nonsense.
1: Schulz 10-9
2: Foreman 10-9
3: Schulz 10-9
4: Schulz 10-9
5: Schulz 10-9
6: Schulz 10-9
7: Schulz 10-9
8: Schulz 10-9
9: Schulz 10-9
10: Schulz 10-9
11: Foreman 10-9
12: Schulz 10-9
Total: Schulz 118-110
A big robbery. Slow George was walking onto Schulz' punches all night long. Punchstats provided some nonsense.
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Axel Schulz vs Michael Moorer
1: Moorer 10-9
2: Moorer 10-9
3: Schulz 10-9
4: Schulz 10-9
5: Moorer 10-9
6: Moorer 10-9
7: Moorer 10-9
8: Moorer 10-9
9: Schulz 10-9
10: Moorer 10-9
11: Moorer 10-9
12: Schulz 10-9
Total: Moorer 116-112
A competetive tactical fight. Both had their moments of landing good power punches, but the thing is, Schulz barely threw a jab, while Moorer was always using it and often effectively.
1: Moorer 10-9
2: Moorer 10-9
3: Schulz 10-9
4: Schulz 10-9
5: Moorer 10-9
6: Moorer 10-9
7: Moorer 10-9
8: Moorer 10-9
9: Schulz 10-9
10: Moorer 10-9
11: Moorer 10-9
12: Schulz 10-9
Total: Moorer 116-112
A competetive tactical fight. Both had their moments of landing good power punches, but the thing is, Schulz barely threw a jab, while Moorer was always using it and often effectively.
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scartissue
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Doc, you might want to check this one out.
Michael Moorer v Frans Botha
Round 1: 10-9 Botha
Round 2: 10-9 Moorer
Round 3: 10-9 Moorer
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Moorer
Round 6: 10-9 Botha
Round 7: 10-9 Botha
Round 8: 10-9 Moorer
Round 9: 10-9 Moorer
Round 10: 10-9 Moorer
Round 11: 10-7 Moorer (Moorer drops Botha twice)
Round 12: Moorer stops Botha
Total through 11 completed rounds: 107-101 Moorer (actual scores: 106-100 and 106-100 again, both for Moorer and a 104-103 for Botha)
Before I start ranting on what a ridiculous call that last one was I should say in fairness to a veteran judge that there was a fine line on many rounds between Botha's big, wild thumps and Moorer's more refined punching. I personally preferred his cleaner sharper blows to Botha's big slaps that Moorer picked off many of. The fight was decent for a heavyweight fight and I got to see some of Teddy Atlas' ranting between rounds. I do see why he always needed to do that with Moorer. Man, he was like a Joe Bugner-type. You needed to set a fire under his stool to get him going.
Michael Moorer v Frans Botha
Round 1: 10-9 Botha
Round 2: 10-9 Moorer
Round 3: 10-9 Moorer
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Moorer
Round 6: 10-9 Botha
Round 7: 10-9 Botha
Round 8: 10-9 Moorer
Round 9: 10-9 Moorer
Round 10: 10-9 Moorer
Round 11: 10-7 Moorer (Moorer drops Botha twice)
Round 12: Moorer stops Botha
Total through 11 completed rounds: 107-101 Moorer (actual scores: 106-100 and 106-100 again, both for Moorer and a 104-103 for Botha)
Before I start ranting on what a ridiculous call that last one was I should say in fairness to a veteran judge that there was a fine line on many rounds between Botha's big, wild thumps and Moorer's more refined punching. I personally preferred his cleaner sharper blows to Botha's big slaps that Moorer picked off many of. The fight was decent for a heavyweight fight and I got to see some of Teddy Atlas' ranting between rounds. I do see why he always needed to do that with Moorer. Man, he was like a Joe Bugner-type. You needed to set a fire under his stool to get him going.
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A fun fight, I had the general impression similar to your score, yet I didn't register it, since the lead by Moorer had been clear and Michael had won by the stoppage in the end.scartissue wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 22:27 Doc, you might want to check this one out.
Michael Moorer v Frans Botha
Round 1: 10-9 Botha
Round 2: 10-9 Moorer
Round 3: 10-9 Moorer
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Moorer
Round 6: 10-9 Botha
Round 7: 10-9 Botha
Round 8: 10-9 Moorer
Round 9: 10-9 Moorer
Round 10: 10-9 Moorer
Round 11: 10-7 Moorer (Moorer drops Botha twice)
Round 12: Moorer stops Botha
Total through 11 completed rounds: 107-101 Moorer (actual scores: 106-100 and 106-100 again, both for Moorer and a 104-103 for Botha)
Before I start ranting on what a ridiculous call that last one was I should say in fairness to a veteran judge that there was a fine line on many rounds between Botha's big, wild thumps and Moorer's more refined punching. I personally preferred his cleaner sharper blows to Botha's big slaps that Moorer picked off many of. The fight was decent for a heavyweight fight and I got to see some of Teddy Atlas' ranting between rounds. I do see why he always needed to do that with Moorer. Man, he was like a Joe Bugner-type. You needed to set a fire under his stool to get him going.
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Moorer wasn't so much like that before he got Atlas as a trainer. Teddy has to be one of the most overrated trainers of all time and a certified nut job of the highest order to boot.scartissue wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 22:27 The fight was decent for a heavyweight fight and I got to see some of Teddy Atlas' ranting between rounds. I do see why he always needed to do that with Moorer. Man, he was like a Joe Bugner-type. You needed to set a fire under his stool to get him going.
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Marcelo Fabian Dominguez vs Sergey Kobozev, for the WBC Interim Cruiserweight strap, 24 Oct 1995.
1: Dominguez 10-9
2: Kobozev 10-9
3: Dominguez 10-9 (Kobozev was down early, but finished the round strong)
4: Dominguez 10-8 (Kobozev was down again)
5: Kobozev 10-9
6: Kobozev 10-9
7: Dominguez 10-9
8: Dominguez 10-9
9: Kobozev 10-9
10: Dominguez 10-9
11: Kobozev 10-9
12: Kobozev 10-9
Total: Dominguez 114-113
Official: Bob Logist 115-113 and Dalby Shirley 116-113 for Dominguez, Franz Marti 116-115 for Kobozev.
A nice and underrated fight from the era and division, which nobody cared about back in the day. Two limited fighters put on an action-packed showdown. Kobozev was an aggressor and he was making this fight, but he was often opened for counters of Dominguez, who was fatter and slower, but wasn't afraid to fight back and had enough of timing abilities. Kobozev probably edged this a bit, but he suffered two knockdowns, which definitely cost him a fight. The first one was in a round, which Sergey won clearly. The second one was in a closer round, but it was quite arguable, as Dominguez didn't hit clean then, while Kobozev seemed to be out of balance. After both KDs Sergey didn't really look hurt. There were a lot of hot exchanges in this bout. The 11th round was pretty intense. The rematch could be nice too. It's tragic, that Kobozev ended up like that after the fight.
1: Dominguez 10-9
2: Kobozev 10-9
3: Dominguez 10-9 (Kobozev was down early, but finished the round strong)
4: Dominguez 10-8 (Kobozev was down again)
5: Kobozev 10-9
6: Kobozev 10-9
7: Dominguez 10-9
8: Dominguez 10-9
9: Kobozev 10-9
10: Dominguez 10-9
11: Kobozev 10-9
12: Kobozev 10-9
Total: Dominguez 114-113
Official: Bob Logist 115-113 and Dalby Shirley 116-113 for Dominguez, Franz Marti 116-115 for Kobozev.
A nice and underrated fight from the era and division, which nobody cared about back in the day. Two limited fighters put on an action-packed showdown. Kobozev was an aggressor and he was making this fight, but he was often opened for counters of Dominguez, who was fatter and slower, but wasn't afraid to fight back and had enough of timing abilities. Kobozev probably edged this a bit, but he suffered two knockdowns, which definitely cost him a fight. The first one was in a round, which Sergey won clearly. The second one was in a closer round, but it was quite arguable, as Dominguez didn't hit clean then, while Kobozev seemed to be out of balance. After both KDs Sergey didn't really look hurt. There were a lot of hot exchanges in this bout. The 11th round was pretty intense. The rematch could be nice too. It's tragic, that Kobozev ended up like that after the fight.
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elmersalsa
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I saw the fight. There's no way outside of San Juan, Puerto Rico that Rocky Lockridge would have lost his crown. He was robbed big time!!!DrDuke wrote: ↑24 Nov 2021, 11:25 Wilfredo Gomez vs Rocky Lockridge
1: Lockridge 10-9
2: Lockridge 10-9
3: Gomez 10-9
4: Lockridge 10-9
5: Lockridge 10-9
6: Lockridge 10-9
7: Lockridge 10-9
8: Lockridge 10-9
9: Lockridge 10-9
10: Lockridge 10-9
11: Gomez 10-9
12: Gomez 10-9
13: Gomez 10-9
14: Gomez 10-9
15: Gomez 10-9
Total: Lockridge 144-141
A big robbery. It was competetive, but the outcome was clear. It was just a hometown dec for Gomez. The fight started as a slugfest, but Rocky was edgeing and by the middle of the bout it became utterly one-sided. Gomez looked ready to go at some points. Somehow in the last third of the distance Gomez found the second wind, while Lockridge tired, but Wilfredo was simply too late.
Now that was a robbery unlike the great Eusebio Pedroza fight in which Pedroza won outright.