Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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Warrington has other options at other levles. obviously the Lara fight is still there but i dont know if its best for him. Its going to be a long wait for that cut to heal and then Even if he were to win its 1-1-1 then you might need a fornicating 4th fight... hard to get out ahead there....

If i were him i would look for one of these guys depending on his confidence levle. Or just all 3 in order.

Karim Guerfi- Easy touch for the Euro belt. or

Leigh wood- Bit tougher but very winnable for a fake "world title" or

Kid Galahad- Try rob him again, for a real world title.

I think all those guys would be happy to fight him, warrington would just have to pick his levle, they all have appropriate reward for there levle of risk...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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coneye wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:41 Alls i know is glad i did'nt pay for it ,, 2 women fights and i'm fast going from disliking to hating these fights ,, Conor Benn just sick of listening to this entitled little prick tell us how good and bad he is , when we all know whats happenning with him , but the two who were always gonna be good fights , well we got 1 out of 2 ,,, Not really good is it 1 decent fight out of 5 ...

Eddie well he can kid himself all he wants that people are willing to pay to see , a bird with big tits and no ability and a koala who's protected because his dad was good , personaly i never would , i did get up early hrs and stream it because i did want to watch Hughes and Warrington ,, don't think i'd do it again , and i did'nt even pay for it
Spot on mate, there was 2 good fights on paper, we got 1 good fight and that was Maxi Hughes and it should have been further up the card.

Hearn/Dazn are now filling cards with rubbish womens fights either to tick boxes or as cheap filler. Both fights went off 1/50 for Taylor and Bridges. And Bridges won by robbery I read here, I didn't catch it. Garbage. Taylors fight was rubbish the crowd seemed to be looking at fights in the stands during it.

As for Conor Benn, Granados was game but nothing more than a punch bag who wasnt fussed by Benns shots and didnt throw much back. Lets have it right, Benn skipped English, British, Euro Level and ducked Avenesyan, it's clear why.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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I didn’t see the fight cos I’m away but Warrington strikes me as a fighter who can’t do right for doing wrong as far as the fans are concerned. I presume it’s something to do with the childish football connection. He should be commended for immediately seeking a rematch (with no title on the line)vs a guy that destroyed him 7 months ago.

He’s also done everything the right way, winning all the straps on the way up and facing great opposition.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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forcefraser wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:44 Womens boxing does nothing for me.

That card was supposed to be one of the best cards Hearn had ever put on???

Utter pish
He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:07
forcefraser wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:44 Womens boxing does nothing for me.

That card was supposed to be one of the best cards Hearn had ever put on???

Utter pish
He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
It was a good card on paper. It was pretty much unanimous on here that we were looking forward to it but some of the fights were a bit dull and the main event was unfortunate.

That sometimes happens. Doesn’t mean it was an awful show - just didn’t live up to expectations.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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The main event looked the best on the card by far. And I don't mind woman's boxing either.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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Steveh583 wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:04 I didn’t see the fight cos I’m away but Warrington strikes me as a fighter who can’t do right for doing wrong as far as the fans are concerned. I presume it’s something to do with the childish football connection. He should be commended for immediately seeking a rematch (with no title on the line)vs a guy that destroyed him 7 months ago.

He’s also done everything the right way, winning all the straps on the way up and facing great opposition.
i dunno, he used to be pretty underrated and dismissed as not serious, but i think ppl grew to him a lot and i dont think he gets a particularly high amount of stick. here it was more that ppl were thinking he was possibly ruined by the first fight, not ppl dissing him or anything
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gregregegg wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:57 Warrington has other options at other levles. obviously the Lara fight is still there but i dont know if its best for him. Its going to be a long wait for that cut to heal and then Even if he were to win its 1-1-1 then you might need a fornicating 4th fight... hard to get out ahead there....

If i were him i would look for one of these guys depending on his confidence levle. Or just all 3 in order.

Karim Guerfi- Easy touch for the Euro belt. or

Leigh wood- Bit tougher but very winnable for a fake "world title" or

Kid Galahad- Try rob him again, for a real world title.

I think all those guys would be happy to fight him, warrington would just have to pick his levle, they all have appropriate reward for there levle of risk...
id prefer he fights someone else before going back in with lara again, i just am not into the whole 'guys repeatedly face each other' thing. wood wood be intersting
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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maverick23 wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:12
peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:07
forcefraser wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:44 Womens boxing does nothing for me.

That card was supposed to be one of the best cards Hearn had ever put on???

Utter pish
He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
It was a good card on paper. It was pretty much unanimous on here that we were looking forward to it but some of the fights were a bit dull and the main event was unfortunate.

That sometimes happens. Doesn’t mean it was an awful show - just didn’t live up to expectations.
There was 2.5 decent fights on paper if we're being generous to Benn Granados. The 2 womens fights weren't good on paper and proved the same. Main event was a disaster.

Needs to get the womens fights further down the card if they must have them on. The Liverpool card is very good on paper but once again we have a womens fight Shannon Courtenay too far up the card. The Whyte London card looks again to have a womens fight chief support.

I dont know if its Hearn himself, who had no time for womens boxing not long ago, or its Dazn but they really need to stop pushing it so hard. I know Sky are doing the same now but it's going to hurt them too, the quality is just not there outside the top couple in a few divisions. Womens amateur boxing is far superior to Pros.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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maxi vs straffon, josh vs lara both looked good on paper i thought. granados-benn i thought seemed decent on paper. none turned out to be very good, but you dont know till it happens

agree the womens fights werent interesting. bridges is a sideshow joke (getting pathetic gifts cuz she has giant fake bolt ons) and han was obviously overmwatched. there are llike 20x more male boxers than female, women get very generous coverage on these cards, half the f@cking main portion. sky had 50/50 on their poster too

is it because women are cheaper to put on cards ?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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I wanna see them go a third time as it’ll still be an interesting fight. Warrington should be out against Wood in December in a perfect world and if he looks like the old Warrington then Lara 3 in the spring.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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ya i agree, if they do it again, have an interim fight first
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:26
maverick23 wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:12
peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:07

He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
It was a good card on paper. It was pretty much unanimous on here that we were looking forward to it but some of the fights were a bit dull and the main event was unfortunate.

That sometimes happens. Doesn’t mean it was an awful show - just didn’t live up to expectations.
There was 2.5 decent fights on paper if we're being generous to Benn Granados. The 2 womens fights weren't good on paper and proved the same. Main event was a disaster.

Needs to get the womens fights further down the card if they must have them on. The Liverpool card is very good on paper but once again we have a womens fight Shannon Courtenay too far up the card. The Whyte London card looks again to have a womens fight chief support.

I dont know if its Hearn himself, who had no time for womens boxing not long ago, or its Dazn but they really need to stop pushing it so hard. I know Sky are doing the same now but it's going to hurt them too, the quality is just not there outside the top couple in a few divisions. Womens amateur boxing is far superior to Pros.
I didn’t particularly like the Taylor fight on paper but it was another mandatory so they needed to get it out of the way. Whilst all of us here would rather she was lower down the bill, given she’s a undisputed champ Hearn would get a lot of stick for being sexist if they had her before Maxi Hughes/Conor Benn. That’s sad and I don’t agree with it but that’s where we are nowadays.

The Bridges fight was decent on paper for a women’s fight. Her opponent pushed Scotney close and it was competitive in reality too. I just don’t think it should have been on the card instead of Hopey Price or Jack Bateson’s fights which were both decent. Hopey might have blown his opponent away but I don’t think many would have predicted that beforehand. Saying that Bridges would have brought more eyeballs given her self promotion so it’s a tough balance for Matchroom/DAZN.

I agree having multiple women’s fights on the show at the moment feels like too much though. They should probably limit it to one per main card. I felt the UFC went too far with the amount of ladies fights/divisions they had/have. Whilst Rousey was great and exciting the bulk of the women’s fights are fairly dull and go to points and pro boxing seems to be going the same way despite some good fights last year.
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Luke Ayling at ringside doing wonders for stop the abuse campaign by yelling f**k off at Lara and flicking v signs at him and his corner. One of the thousands there who didn't have a clue about boxing
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:29 agree the womens fights werent interesting. bridges is a sideshow joke and han was obviously overmwatched. there are llike 20x more male boxers than female, women get very generous coverage on these cards, half the f@cking main portion
Exactly it's taking the piss now. Bridges only there for sex appeal. Han fight was woeful. I'm unsure how the womens mandatories work. Han had 3 fights in 5 years how can she be a mandatory?

Only way it works high up cards get Bridges in with Courtenay again and Taylor in with Serrano/Cameron/Jonas. You need 2 names in there, not like last night. Otherwise have it back up the start of the card.
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maverick23 wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:12
peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:07
forcefraser wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 04:44 Womens boxing does nothing for me.

That card was supposed to be one of the best cards Hearn had ever put on???

Utter pish
He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
It was a good card on paper. It was pretty much unanimous on here that we were looking forward to it but some of the fights were a bit dull and the main event was unfortunate.

That sometimes happens. Doesn’t mean it was an awful show - just didn’t live up to expectations.
It did look a decent nights boxing before.
But not a great card - lets be honest it was only Josh v Lara we expected to be interesting. Benn is still more hype than substance; Hughes v Straffon are basically unknowns which he expected to be dangerous for Hughes; the women fights are just fillers .. Bridges is absolutely terrible and KT is fighting on memory and barely able to even go through the motions nowadays.

Aside from Fury and Joshua, what big name stars have we got in the UK anymore?
Whyte is another accident waiting to happen; Khan and Brook are washed up .. I can`t think of anyone else.
Josh Taylor, Galahad, Buatsi, Okolie, Yarde ... none of those have much interest outside of their own living rooms.

British boxing is reaping the rewards of subscription and PPV ... Fury and Joshua may be doing OK, but heavyweight boxing demands attention; outside of that, there are no big stars in UK anymore.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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Women’s boxing needs 3 min rounds 7 round world title fights, 6 or 7 oz gloves, and only one world champ belt…

4 world champs is crazy when there are 100 decent fighters in a div (men’s) it’s madness when there are 3 decent fighters in a div (women’s)
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Haven’t watched any boxing for a long time now and I hope the cards carry on like this for the next 6-12 months. If promoters carry on with women’s boxing and YouTubers( I know that a YouTubedr didn’t fight last night) rather than talented fighters it will hopefully go bristols up for them
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gregregegg wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 06:22 Women’s boxing needs 3 min rounds 7 round world title fights, 6 or 7 oz gloves, and only one world champ belt…

4 world champs is crazy when there are 100 decent fighters in a div (men’s) it’s madness when there are 3 decent fighters in a div (women’s)
Agree 4 World Titles is absurd, and they're bigging up a 4 way unification tournament now, as if those fights aren't the bare minimum?

If you can't even get 1 belt in the women's division it must be a pipe dream to hope we ever get it in the men's.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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All this woke, equality bullpish does my nut in. Let's call it for what it is. Womens boxing is poor. Not interested at all.

Very few knockouts and just aimless flailing. Have a separate night for it and those who wanna watch it can, but make us suffer through it on a normal Card.

Hearn is such a sell out, pretending he loves women's boxing. Like allegedly, he hates it
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forcefraser wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 06:54 All this woke, equality bullpish does my nut in. Let's call it for what it is. Womens boxing is poor. Not interested at all.

Very few knockouts and just aimless flailing. Have a separate night for it and those who wanna watch it can, but make us suffer through it on a normal Card.

Hearn is such a sell out, pretending he loves women's boxing. Like allegedly, he hates it
Unfortunately that would never happen as every promoter knows they would lose a lot of money
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tonyevs wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:55
maverick23 wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:12
peter barlow wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 05:07

He'll be feeling the pressure now that card tanked even with casuals. Usually all over twitter and IFL comments fawning over Hearn and Matchroom, it's all negative comments after that.
It was a good card on paper. It was pretty much unanimous on here that we were looking forward to it but some of the fights were a bit dull and the main event was unfortunate.

That sometimes happens. Doesn’t mean it was an awful show - just didn’t live up to expectations.
It did look a decent nights boxing before.
But not a great card - lets be honest it was only Josh v Lara we expected to be interesting. Benn is still more hype than substance; Hughes v Straffon are basically unknowns which he expected to be dangerous for Hughes; the women fights are just fillers .. Bridges is absolutely terrible and KT is fighting on memory and barely able to even go through the motions nowadays.

Aside from Fury and Joshua, what big name stars have we got in the UK anymore?
Whyte is another accident waiting to happen; Khan and Brook are washed up .. I can`t think of anyone else.
Josh Taylor, Galahad, Buatsi, Okolie, Yarde ... none of those have much interest outside of their own living rooms.

British boxing is reaping the rewards of subscription and PPV ... Fury and Joshua may be doing OK, but heavyweight boxing demands attention; outside of that, there are no big stars in UK anymore.
Its the 'Pointless' test put up pictures of 6 current British boxers and see how many non boxing fans recognise ? Would be a lot of pointless answers and putting things on Dazn will make it worse
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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There would only be a chance of recognising Fury, Joshua and Khan and Connor Benn

Other than hard core fans nobody would recognise Sunny Edwards, Warrington, Selby, Burns, Kid Galahad, Josh Taylor, Brook,Buatsi, Whyte, Joyce, Dubois.

I've even forgotten the cruiserweight champs name.
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I’m sure 99% of people wouldn’t recognise Conor Benn.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington II - 4 September 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 05 Sep 2021, 06:22 Women’s boxing needs 3 min rounds 7 round world title fights, 6 or 7 oz gloves, and only one world champ belt…

4 world champs is crazy when there are 100 decent fighters in a div (men’s) it’s madness when there are 3 decent fighters in a div (women’s)
Please no.
3 x 1 minute rounds is excessive.
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