Fury to pull out, Whyte ready to step in but Wilder will duck Whyte again

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Eddie Hearn told iFL TV that Dillian Whyte will return to the ring on the 30th October.

The Body Snatcher has apparently been ordered to face Marco Huck for the EBU title.

Jermain Franklin is also being considered. The American has already accepted the terms of the bout.

However, Eddie conceded that the front runner to become Whyte’s next opponent is Chris Arreola.

Whyte’s fight in October will be officially announced next week.
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Oh boy
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Front Runner? Arreola isn’t running anywhere but to the buffet table
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To be fair, Arreola beat a man ranked in the world's top 100 as recently as 2013.
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Bard of Boxrec wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 07:50 Front Runner? Arreola isn’t running anywhere but to the buffet table
Arreola isn't fat anymore.

For sure, he's not built like AJ, but he isn't fat.

He’s 6′ 3″ and was only 4½ lbs shy of the bridgerweight limit when he fought Andy Ruiz Jr. It was the lightest he's officially weighed for any of his pro bouts.

Chris Arreola is a very decent fighter (possibly even top-20 calibre) when he’s motivated and in shape. He’s no world beater, but he is capable of providing a stern challenge when he’s at his best.
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gp. wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 08:19 To be fair, Arreola beat a man ranked in the world's top 100 as recently as 2013.
Arreola's efforts during his last two outings against top-ten world-rated heavyweights (Adam Kownacki and Andy Ruiz Jr.) were fairly decent.

He's not as rubbish as his resume suggests.

In my mind, when he's in shape, to varying degrees, he is the heavyweight equivalent of Gabriel Rosado or perhaps a Glen Johnson.
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gp. wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 08:19 To be fair, Arreola beat a man ranked in the world's top 100 as recently as 2013.
:lol: :TU:
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candyslim wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 10:00
gp. wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 08:19 To be fair, Arreola beat a man ranked in the world's top 100 as recently as 2013.
:lol: :TU:
arreaola gets well beaten by whyte if it happens , which I doubt .
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Fury is a degenerate coward who will never be remembered.
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It's confusing why Fury is such a weak draw He has the personality of Ali, he's funny, witty, gregarious, extroverted, talented as a boxer, he has the right manager in Arum who controls the media. Yet Fury is a minor league draw in UK and USA. The only fight he can make big money on is by piggybacking of the real superstar Joshua.

Fury is everything you could ask for in a great white hype but he's a dead draw on his own.

Boxing is just so dead now in the post Fraudweather era. Bud Crawford is better than Fraudweather ever was, would beat him easy (though he'd be ducked) and Crawford can't sell anything anywhere outside Nebraska.

Boxing in America is totally dead because of Fraudweather's ducking cowardice and handpicking and PBC's fake fights.

America has not one single noteworthy heavyweight. It's a shame Fraudweather and haymon have ruined boxing in America. If Fury came around in the 70s or 80s he'd be a Billion dollar champion superstar. My how times have changed.
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Boxing is so upside down insane that Wilder ducked AJ for $120m and Fury ducked him for probably even more. They know the Fraudweather formula that you can make even more money by ducking that huge jackpot and just rig all the other fights and be a fake champion like Floyd was.

Fraudweather successfully ducked Pac for six years pretending he would fight him later later later. Not yet. The fake worked and he made a fortune with the $150m gauranteed six fight showtime contract which was used to pay off all the opponents to play soft. Then les moonves saw the numbers for guerrero and maidana were weak and he forced Floyd to fight Pac. So floyd and haymon were forced into it and rigged the judges. Floyd ducked the rematch fight berto for much less money. still ducking Pac rematch because he knows he can't fix it again.

So that corruption is now the blueprint in American boxing. fabricate a fraud champ chump like Fraudweather, Canelo, davis (they tried to with wilder) and just rig his career and make a fortune on rigged set ups. AJ is the real deal and that's why fury and wilder ducked him.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 09:04
Bard of Boxrec wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 07:50 Front Runner? Arreola isn’t running anywhere but to the buffet table
Arreola isn't fat anymore.

For sure, he's not built like AJ, but he isn't fat.

He’s 6′ 3″ and was only 4½ lbs shy of the bridgerweight limit when he fought Andy Ruiz Jr. It was the lightest he's officially weighed for any of his pro bouts.

Chris Arreola is a very decent fighter (possibly even top-20 calibre) when he’s motivated and in shape. He’s no world beater, but he is capable of providing a stern challenge when he’s at his best.
:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 16:13
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 09:04
Bard of Boxrec wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 07:50 Front Runner? Arreola isn’t running anywhere but to the buffet table
Arreola isn't fat anymore.

For sure, he's not built like AJ, but he isn't fat.

He’s 6′ 3″ and was only 4½ lbs shy of the bridgerweight limit when he fought Andy Ruiz Jr. It was the lightest he's officially weighed for any of his pro bouts.

Chris Arreola is a very decent fighter (possibly even top-20 calibre) when he’s motivated and in shape. He’s no world beater, but he is capable of providing a stern challenge when he’s at his best.
:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
chris has been dropped and hurt a bunch of times and got ko'd by someone worse than the guys who beat whyte, what exactly is so superior about his punch resistance?

even trav kauffman dropped him, and curtis harper (the guy who walked out vs efe) had him teetering
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555678 wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 15:11 Boxing is so upside down insane that Wilder ducked AJ for $120m and Fury ducked him for probably even more. They know the Fraudweather formula that you can make even more money by ducking that huge jackpot and just rig all the other fights and be a fake champion like Floyd was.

Fraudweather successfully ducked Pac for six years pretending he would fight him later later later. Not yet. The fake worked and he made a fortune with the $150m gauranteed six fight showtime contract which was used to pay off all the opponents to play soft. Then les moonves saw the numbers for guerrero and maidana were weak and he forced Floyd to fight Pac. So floyd and haymon were forced into it and rigged the judges. Floyd ducked the rematch fight berto for much less money. still ducking Pac rematch because he knows he can't fix it again.

So that corruption is now the blueprint in American boxing. fabricate a fraud champ chump like Fraudweather, Canelo, davis (they tried to with wilder) and just rig his career and make a fortune on rigged set ups. AJ is the real deal and that's why fury and wilder ducked him.
100%. punchstats were bullshit as well. pac was the aggressor thru out. it wasn't pacman's best outing by far, still he won that fight clearly.

there's a video on tube that counts every single punch those two landed in that fight.

don't remember the exact numbers off the top of my head now but it definitely PROOFS pac threw & landed decisively more.

punchstats numbers were going up for him when mayweather was hitting nothing but air & gloves.
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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 16:13
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 09:04
Bard of Boxrec wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 07:50 Front Runner? Arreola isn’t running anywhere but to the buffet table
Arreola isn't fat anymore.

For sure, he's not built like AJ, but he isn't fat.

He’s 6′ 3″ and was only 4½ lbs shy of the bridgerweight limit when he fought Andy Ruiz Jr. It was the lightest he's officially weighed for any of his pro bouts.

Chris Arreola is a very decent fighter (possibly even top-20 calibre) when he’s motivated and in shape. He’s no world beater, but he is capable of providing a stern challenge when he’s at his best.
:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
I’m sorry, but there’s no doubt that Arreola isn’t fat anymore.

I am not seriously suggesting he beats Whyte, but he’s not a journeyman bum that’ll lie down at the very first time he endures adversity.
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why are you sorry
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:24
KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 16:13
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 09:04
Arreola isn't fat anymore.

For sure, he's not built like AJ, but he isn't fat.

He’s 6′ 3″ and was only 4½ lbs shy of the bridgerweight limit when he fought Andy Ruiz Jr. It was the lightest he's officially weighed for any of his pro bouts.

Chris Arreola is a very decent fighter (possibly even top-20 calibre) when he’s motivated and in shape. He’s no world beater, but he is capable of providing a stern challenge when he’s at his best.
:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
I’m sorry, but there’s no doubt that Arreola isn’t fat anymore.

I am not seriously suggesting he beats Whyte, but he’s not a journeyman bum that’ll lie down at the very first time he endures adversity.
I'm suggesting Chris has a reasonable chance.
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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:24
KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 16:13

:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
I’m sorry, but there’s no doubt that Arreola isn’t fat anymore.

I am not seriously suggesting he beats Whyte, but he’s not a journeyman bum that’ll lie down at the very first time he endures adversity.
I'm suggesting Chris has a reasonable chance.
Sorry, my response to Bard’s post got entangled with yours.

I füçkéd up and there’s no excuse for that.

All I can do is apologise. :TU:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 18:49
KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:24
I’m sorry, but there’s no doubt that Arreola isn’t fat anymore.

I am not seriously suggesting he beats Whyte, but he’s not a journeyman bum that’ll lie down at the very first time he endures adversity.
I'm suggesting Chris has a reasonable chance.
Sorry, my response to Bard’s post got entangled with yours.

I füçkéd up and there’s no excuse for that.

All I can do is apologise. :TU:
No wuckin furries mate :TU:
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Whyte v Arreola is a terrible fight and a step down from Whyte v Povetkin.

I doubt Arreola could win more than two rounds.
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unnecessary hiding for arreola. no chance he wins this. he might not go down but his corner will stop it after 9 or earlier.

ruiz/whyte would make more sense as a match up but i get the hindering 'circumstances'.
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lazboy wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 20:43 Whyte v Arreola is a terrible fight and a step down from Whyte v Povetkin.

I doubt Arreola could win more than two rounds.
Whyte-Arreola isn’t a “terrible” fight.

For sure, it’s not a great fight, but Dillian’s options might be limited.

The likes of Luis Ortiz and Andy Ruiz Jr. have both rejected offers to face Whyte.

Some of the other big-names are either committed to other fights or are taking the easy route to protect their places in the title-shot queue.

I also feel that Dillian Whyte has had a pretty tough run and probably deserves an easy-ish bout, because within the last 5½ years he’s faced the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin (twice), Oscar Rivas, Dereck Chisora (twice), Robert Helenius and the unbeaten iteration of Lucas Browne.

And to be fair, I can’t think of any fighter competing today with a resume like Whyte’s that hasn’t received a world title shot.

So I’ll give him a free pass for the Arreola fight.
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KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:24
KiwiRider wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 16:13

:salut:
Sure signs he has been in the gym last time out.
I give the fight 50/50 given Whytes punch resistance is low and Chris's isn't. If Chris keeps up his training I give him a good chance of stopping Whyte.
I’m sorry, but there’s no doubt that Arreola isn’t fat anymore.

I am not seriously suggesting he beats Whyte, but he’s not a journeyman bum that’ll lie down at the very first time he endures adversity.
I'm suggesting Chris has a reasonable chance.
I kind of agree with you Kiwi even if I did really enjoy a laugh at gp's comment about Chris having beaten a top 100 opponent as recently as 2013. It's funny because it's not without truth, however while it's a very long time, if ever, since Chris deserved a title-shot, he has nevertheless turned in some surprising performances.

While there is no denying he is adept at using his face to block punches, besides his attributes of toughness and courage which go without saying, his stamina deficiency of his earlier years seems to have been overcome. He throws a lot of punches. Didn't he and Kownacki break, or come close to breaking, the record for the most punches thrown in a heavyweight fight or was that since Ibeabuchi v Tua?

Also I considered Ruiz as owning about the best chin in the division having survived that monster right hand left hook combo from AJ. That put him down briefly, but Chris really hurt him early on even though Andy recovered to dominate the later rounds. I am a huge admirer of Dillian Whyte as you probably know but that doesn't mean I'm not painfully aware of his shortcomings. I've seen Dill floored or badly shaken many times and while I would expect him to win comfortably, I can easily imagine Chris Nipple causing an upset.
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Shows how much I even follow the sport anymore, I thought arreola was still fat. Lol, why choose when you’re 38 or whatever he is to finally put down the doughnuts.
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