Fury should fake out of Oct 9 and let Whyte get Wilder

[555678]

Tyson Fury has nothing to gain by KOing the big bird legged American fraud, the fight is not selling so the number will be small - and a win over Whyte would be more impressive for Fury at this point.

How is this for a set up?? Two weeks before Oct. 9, Fury fakes an injury like Spence and lets Whyte replace him as the opponent. WBC will be happy as it finally gets the Whyte situation out of their hair. And then the winner of Whyte-wilder automatically gets Fury in December?

This would be an orchestrated trap to set up wilder and force him to fight Whyte after three years of dodging. if wilder screams NOOO!!!! and refuses to fight Whyte then we KNOW with 100 percent certainty that wilder is a Coward.

Whyte and Hearn are presently talking about a Whyte fight for October with Arreola, Franklin, but nothing is happening, nothing signed. Could this be the smokescreen to trick wilder and haymon? Pretending to set up a fight while not signing because they KNOW Fury is going to pull out?

Whyte vs wilder is the more appealing fight right now than a third Fury wilder. We all know wilder and haymon don't want Whyte and the only way they can be forced to fight him is by a set up with Fury faking out.

[SteveO]

Tyson Fury has nothing to gain by KOing the big bird legged American fraud

I think he has something to gain $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[adislav123]

Tyson Fury has nothing to gain by KOing the big bird legged American fraud

I think he has something to gain $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

i reckon bout 25 million of those $$$!

surely enuff to joyfully put another hiding on beyonce from alabama.

[555678]

No way this is a $25m fight for anyone. It's a small time bust. Fury and wilder are both irrelevant in the US. Neither draws and there's no great interest in a third fight despite all the media manipulation trying to make you think there is. Fury and wilder are both dead entities in USA. Both ducked career high jackpots to fight AJ. Everybody knows this. wilder and fury are irrelevant until they dare to be great and fight AJ.

No way on earth is anybody going to guarantee fury $25m or anywhere close to that to box the big bird legged excuse making fraud from alabama.

Fury will be lucky to get $2.5m for a third wilder show.

[H8Usernames]

I'm curious man. What exaxtly is wrong with you? Low iq? Brain damage from boxing? Just a young guy? Autism?

[candyslim]

Instead of insulting the man, why don't you explain to him why his logic is flawed and faulty? Maybe I can learn something too.

[H8Usernames]

Instead of insulting the man, why don't you explain to him why his logic is flawed and faulty? Maybe I can learn something too.

I'm somewhat disappointed by this reply. You never seemed like a complete moron to me, perhaps I was mistaken.

[candyslim]

Well I'd like to think not but you'll doubtless form your own conclusion. The point I was trying to make is that it's easy to throw a generalized insult at anyone. One could call Einstein an idiot although clearly he wasn't.

If you point out to him (555678) why what he claimed was nonsense in your opinion, we can debate the points raised. You may even get him to see things differently (but definitely no promises )

[H8Usernames]

Well I'd like to think not but you'll doubtless form your own conclusion. The point I was trying to make is that it's easy to throw a generalized insult at anyone. One could call Einstein an idiot although clearly he wasn't.

If you point out to him (555678) why what he claimed was nonsense in your opinion, we can debate the points raised. You may even get him to see things differently (but definitely no promises )

There are only two options really. A he is simply trolling or B there is something wrong with the fellow. I could disect the things that he said and inquire about why those words were written but that would be like sparring with an undersized novice that nobody has taught how to even throw a single punch. Just simply too f boring. Hearing this fellows story however might be ok.

[candyslim]

Well I must confess I do sometimes find his views a little extreme, especially with regard to suggestions of fighters being paid to throw fights, but other times he raises questions which I don't necessarily agree with, but I consider to be deserving of more than just automatic rejection.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Fury v Wilder III falls over, There is a clear disconnect between what the fighters are wanting to get paid and how much the fight is looking likely to generate/ needs to generate in order to make that possible. I won't be paying to watch the fight and I'm sure I won't be alone in keeping a firm grip on my money.

Is it so inconceivable Fury pulls out and Whyte starts clamouring to take his place? How is Deontay likely to react to this turn of events? How does the arbitration ruling deal with the situation that the fight it demands to take place proves not to be financially viable?

Not unreasonable questions as I see it.

[IRONFIST]

Wilder would KO Whyte inside 3 rounds, Whyte is too heavy and slow.

[candyslim]

If it's a foregone conclusion why does he go to any lengths to avoid having to prove it?

Whyte has been chasing him for years. Just knock him out and he won't be taunting and haunting you every time you turn around. Sounds easy enough doesn't it?

[555678]

wilder fans have a lot more confidence than wilder himself otherwise wilder would not have gone to such great lengths to keep ducking Whyte and manipulating sulaiman to cheat Whyte out of his earned bought and paid for WBC title shot.

It will be very interesting if Fury pulls out and Whyte volunteers to sub for him. So far it looks very possible. Whyte has yet to sign for a fight, while Fury continues his weird, inconsistent behavior.

[555678]

Have not seen one ad or official promo for Oct 9. wilder just did an interview practically screaming about Fury faking covid and ducking the third fight. its as if he's very angry because he knows Fury will pull out again and the last guy in the world he wants to fight will volunteer his services - Dilian Whyte.

wilder will be absolutely checkmated. there will be no way out other than to obscenely duck Whyte.

This has been set up perfectly. Hearn should pay Fury a million to step aside so that Whyte can get rid of wilder once and for all. Would not be surprised if that plan is actually in the works.

Then AJ vs Fury in December or next year and Whyte gets the winner. Whyte will surely KO the big bird legged fraud.

[candyslim]

I've always thought that the pre-beatdown Wilder beats Whyte for the reasons suggested above by Ironfist, along with the vulnerability displayed by Dillian on occasion. Haymon and Finkel on the other hand seem to regard Dillian as kryptonite for Wilder though.

What is certain however is that Whyte deserves his chance which is long overdue, and that I for one would be interested, excited, and willing to spend money to see it, unlike an uninspiring rehash of a fight we've seen twice before. I know I'm not alone in that.

Deontay may not agree but he deserves an opportunity to prove that he's capable of beating Whyte in the ring rather than pathetically calling him names from a safe place. Even I could do that it's easy, look: Dillian you're a cockroach and I could beat you with one hand tied behind my back, and if you're up for the challenge I'll be waiting for you (under my stairs, somewhere in western Europe)

[adislav123]

Wilder would KO Whyte inside 3 rounds, Whyte is too heavy and slow.

whyte doesn't freeze up deer in the headlights style a la breazale or literally jumps into a punch chin up dangling in the air like szplika.

let's not talk about ortiz got fucked over by doc & ref and was literally held down, physically denied to get up again, waived off without even getting a fvckin count!!!

without doctor's intervention fair & legit reffing ortiz would've problably won both fights, first one defo.

whyte would come at wilder and frikkin take him apart, maybe worse than fury did.

i'm not ignorant to the fact that at heavy one punch can close the show, but if u know what ur doing in there, wilder can't surprise a top guy with his loaded up spastic swings that u see coming for a mile.

IF WILDER SUDDENLY LEARNED HOW TO THROW A STIFF JAB & PUT AT LEAST A 3 PUNCH COMBINATION TOGETHER without losing all awareness of the counter action, HE MIGHT SUDDENLY BE ONE OF THE BEST HEAVYS ON THE PLANET.

given he miraculously learned how to box in the last year he will give everybody (whyte/fury/josh/ruiz...) including usyk a tuff fight with absolutely open outcome.

the guy just can't box. he can spastically put all his lanky leverage into one shot.... well, that will carry u only so far and wilder absolutely 100% over achieved everything he even could've never imagined with his capabilities.

END OF THE ROAD FOR THE ALABAMA ONE TRICK PONY, WHOEVER HE FIGHTS OUT OF THE TOP CROP WILL BEAT HIM.

at heavy there's always the chance of a LUCKY punch getting thru if u manage to stay on your feet and swing for the fences...

u don't even have to swing for the fences, u gottq connect clean & crisp with a solid punch your opponent can't anticipate, cause...

THAT'S THE FRIKKIN ART OF BOXING!

[555678]

Wilder has no skills in the ring except for throwing a right hand which is a hard punch - but even yo grandma can throw a right hand. Wilder has no skills because his ENTIRE career was rigged to fabricate him into a cournterfeit MIke Tyson KO machine. Everyone of his pbc hired patsy opponents took a dive, ate shots, one way or another they were rigged to be KO Ws on wilder's fake record. ortiz and stiverne twice dove, szpilka, washington, malik, everybody was all paid off to dive and build up the fraud star. This is why wilder has no skills and never developed any skills - he didn't need any because all of his wins were fakes. Then couldn't buy off Fury (Arum) so we finally saw the real wilder on his own and he can manhandled like an amateur which is essentially what he is. A mentally and physically retarded athlete who was protected by a mafioso crook (Haymon).

The only thing wilder can do is talk like a moronic imbecile. They put him in pbc podcasts and he reads off his scripted BS nonsense which the dumb people of the world fall for and think he's something special. But it's all scripted BS. If wilder was a real fighter, he wouldnt have needed to duck Whyte for four years. He would have dared to be great and challenged AJ for the $120m. He would have fought Wladimir back in the day. wilder is nothing and never will be nothing more.

Malik scott is just the next hired scripted clown playing his part in the greatest heavyweight fraud deception in boxing history.

[555678]

The only surprise about wilder's career is that despite the big fake 40-0 record, he never sold in america, he never got a guaranteed tv contract. he's a poor sell even in alabama. the act failed to sell. haymon and shirly winkel (Hearn revealing finkel is really another music industry elite cross dressing tranny like haymon) calaculated that wilder with his fake ko record would have become a major hit seller and the would be commanding $50m a fight. But it failed to sell. because the public sensed wilder was nothing but a big fraud and they rejected the circus act. so now wilder makes peanuts and the only way they can make any money from wilder is to sacrifice him to AJ.

the very poor ticket sales and no media interest in fury vs wilder 3 is the nail in the wilder coffin. his career is dead. the last move left is the sacrifice to AJ.

[adislav123]

Wilder has no skills in the ring except for throwing a right hand which is a hard punch - but even yo grandma can throw a right hand. Wilder has no skills because his ENTIRE career was rigged to fabricate him into a cournterfeit MIke Tyson KO machine. Everyone of his pbc hired patsy opponents took a dive, ate shots, one way or another they were rigged to be KO Ws on wilder's fake record. ortiz and stiverne twice dove, szpilka, washington, malik, everybody was all paid off to dive and build up the fraud star. This is why wilder has no skills and never developed any skills - he didn't need any because all of his wins were fakes. Then couldn't buy off Fury (Arum) so we finally saw the real wilder on his own and he can manhandled like an amateur which is essentially what he is. A mentally and physically retarded athlete who was protected by a mafioso crook (Haymon).

The only thing wilder can do is talk like a moronic imbecile. They put him in pbc podcasts and he reads off his scripted BS nonsense which the dumb people of the world fall for and think he's something special. But it's all scripted BS. If wilder was a real fighter, he wouldnt have needed to duck Whyte for four years. He would have dared to be great and challenged AJ for the $120m. He would have fought Wladimir back in the day. wilder is nothing and never will be nothing more.

Malik scott is just the next hired scripted clown playing his part in the greatest heavyweight fraud deception in boxing history.

[Thomastearns]

Wilder has no skills in the ring except for throwing a right hand which is a hard punch - but even yo grandma can throw a right hand. Wilder has no skills because his ENTIRE career was rigged to fabricate him into a cournterfeit MIke Tyson KO machine. Everyone of his pbc hired patsy opponents took a dive, ate shots, one way or another they were rigged to be KO Ws on wilder's fake record. ortiz and stiverne twice dove, szpilka, washington, malik, everybody was all paid off to dive and build up the fraud star. This is why wilder has no skills and never developed any skills - he didn't need any because all of his wins were fakes. Then couldn't buy off Fury (Arum) so we finally saw the real wilder on his own and he can manhandled like an amateur which is essentially what he is. A mentally and physically retarded athlete who was protected by a mafioso crook (Haymon).

The only thing wilder can do is talk like a moronic imbecile. They put him in pbc podcasts and he reads off his scripted BS nonsense which the dumb people of the world fall for and think he's something special. But it's all scripted BS. If wilder was a real fighter, he wouldnt have needed to duck Whyte for four years. He would have dared to be great and challenged AJ for the $120m. He would have fought Wladimir back in the day. wilder is nothing and never will be nothing more.

Malik scott is just the next hired scripted clown playing his part in the greatest heavyweight fraud deception in boxing history.

Great analysis. Some will need it spelling out.

The Wilder camp must be kicking themselves for not taking the Joshua fight now.

Like the dog that saw its reflection in the water, they got greedy and wanted more.

Now they're getting peanuts.

[555678]

Wilder has no skills in the ring except for throwing a right hand which is a hard punch - but even yo grandma can throw a right hand. Wilder has no skills because his ENTIRE career was rigged to fabricate him into a cournterfeit MIke Tyson KO machine. Everyone of his pbc hired patsy opponents took a dive, ate shots, one way or another they were rigged to be KO Ws on wilder's fake record. ortiz and stiverne twice dove, szpilka, washington, malik, everybody was all paid off to dive and build up the fraud star. This is why wilder has no skills and never developed any skills - he didn't need any because all of his wins were fakes. Then couldn't buy off Fury (Arum) so we finally saw the real wilder on his own and he can manhandled like an amateur which is essentially what he is. A mentally and physically retarded athlete who was protected by a mafioso crook (Haymon).

The only thing wilder can do is talk like a moronic imbecile. They put him in pbc podcasts and he reads off his scripted BS nonsense which the dumb people of the world fall for and think he's something special. But it's all scripted BS. If wilder was a real fighter, he wouldnt have needed to duck Whyte for four years. He would have dared to be great and challenged AJ for the $120m. He would have fought Wladimir back in the day. wilder is nothing and never will be nothing more.

Malik scott is just the next hired scripted clown playing his part in the greatest heavyweight fraud deception in boxing history.

Great analysis. Some will need it spelling out.

The Wilder camp must be kicking themselves for not taking the Joshua fight now.

Like the dog that saw its reflection in the water, they got greedy and wanted more.

Now they're getting peanuts.

Thank you. But haymon and shirley winkel (when shelly finkel has to dress up as a woman for his masters) KNOW that AJ would put wilder in an ambulance and it would be so bad a loss it would be the END of the fraud career. So their corrupt thinking was they could make the big money in the American market without ever fighting AJ. The sheme was to try to beat Fury (Arum) and then monopolize the American market by only fighting more pbc hired patsies all the way to 50 or 60 and 0. If wilder ever could make money (with a long term guaranteed contract) then they were just going to duck AJ for ever, same as the plan was by floyd and Alice Haymon (when haymon has to dress up as a woman for his masters) was to duck Pacquiao forever and keep fighting the hired patsies. But the Maidana numbers were below expectations and CBS Showtime boss Les Moonves had to step and and FORCE floyd and haymon to fight Pacquiao. That's the only reason it happened - Moonves stepped in because the Maidana numbers were bad.

Now, fans must boycott wilder vs fury, so then wilder alice haymon and shirley winkle have nowhere to go to make money except AJ.

They are hoping AJ loses to Usyk so then they can say AJ was just a big bum and they will avoid Usyk who they will call a Euro bum cruiserweight who got lucky beating a bum. They will freeze out Usyk and leave him be in Europe. So we have to hope AJ beats Usyk, if there's any hope to see wilder laid out limp.

[adislav123]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

[scallum2015]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I could be wrong but Usyk is the last type of a fighter i Wouldve picked if i was Team A.J.. Usyk can very easily outbox the Robotic AJ

[555678]

Usyk is mandatory, AJ must fight him.

[555678]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

Usyk is very intelligent, talented and dangerous fighter. Serious, confident, fearless. Yes the worst kind of opponent for a champion. Willing to die to win the title.

Usyk has more balls combined than that fraud wilder and that big headcase fury who both ducked AJ for career high jackpots because they want the easy, safe, path of least resistance. fury and wilder are clowns now, pretenders who talk talk talk. But they both ducked Joshua.