Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
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Great start Lopez ! 
Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
Gotta be 4-0 Lopez.
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
This performance from Valdez was a far cry from help compared to his last one..
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
The Brazilian is a dumbass, he was winning early on with the superior speed and reflexes, but he gave away too many rounds.
The referee is a motherf*cker with that decuction, but who cares, cause the judges are motherf*ckers even more, they got it too wide.
I had it even without a deduction.
The referee is a motherf*cker with that decuction, but who cares, cause the judges are motherf*ckers even more, they got it too wide.
I had it even without a deduction.
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
It seems like Robson got a little tired.. took nice early lead..DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021, 15:21 The Brazilian is a dumbass, he was winning early on with the superior speed and reflexes, but he gave away too many rounds.
The referee is a motherf*cker with that decuction, but who cares, cause the judges are motherf*ckers even more, they got it too wide.
I had it even without a deduction.
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
Bob Arum blames media for negativity surrounding Oscar Valdez’s failed drug test
Arum says Valdez never did anything wrong and that all the media talk is just noise.
In the aftermath of Oscar Valdez’s decision win over Robson Conceicao this past Friday, under the backdrop of suspicion and ire because of Valdez testing positive for a banned substance leading into the bout, Valdez’ Top Rank promoter Bob Arum tells Fight Hub that the whole issue was blown out of proportion and that Valdez has done nothing wrong. Check out what Arum had to say on the subject below.
On if Valdez is vindicated with his win over Conceicao
“Look, it’s not a question of vindication, it’s not a question of anything — it’s a question of the law. These boxing commissions have signed off to WADA just the way the Olympics have, just the way most sports (have) and that means there are substances that are banned only in competition. And this was a substance that’s banned only in competition. So nobody really had any maneuverability legally to prevent him from fighting.
“This is all really something that is blown out of all proportions by the media. Now, maybe there’s an argument that this substance should be banned in and out of competition, but that’s a different story! That’s not what the law is now. People have to respect the law, and the law is this substance is okay outside of competition — which means the day before and the day of, period, end of story. Everything else is just noise.”
On how he would guide young fighters to deal with these types of situations
“The fighter has to have a good promoter who like in this instance where the law is on his side, is gonna stand up and tell people what the law is. Period and end of story. Oscar Valdez did nothing wrong. Even if he did — which I don’t believe — consciously took this substance out of competition he was breaking no law.”
Arum says Valdez never did anything wrong and that all the media talk is just noise.
In the aftermath of Oscar Valdez’s decision win over Robson Conceicao this past Friday, under the backdrop of suspicion and ire because of Valdez testing positive for a banned substance leading into the bout, Valdez’ Top Rank promoter Bob Arum tells Fight Hub that the whole issue was blown out of proportion and that Valdez has done nothing wrong. Check out what Arum had to say on the subject below.
On if Valdez is vindicated with his win over Conceicao
“Look, it’s not a question of vindication, it’s not a question of anything — it’s a question of the law. These boxing commissions have signed off to WADA just the way the Olympics have, just the way most sports (have) and that means there are substances that are banned only in competition. And this was a substance that’s banned only in competition. So nobody really had any maneuverability legally to prevent him from fighting.
“This is all really something that is blown out of all proportions by the media. Now, maybe there’s an argument that this substance should be banned in and out of competition, but that’s a different story! That’s not what the law is now. People have to respect the law, and the law is this substance is okay outside of competition — which means the day before and the day of, period, end of story. Everything else is just noise.”
On how he would guide young fighters to deal with these types of situations
“The fighter has to have a good promoter who like in this instance where the law is on his side, is gonna stand up and tell people what the law is. Period and end of story. Oscar Valdez did nothing wrong. Even if he did — which I don’t believe — consciously took this substance out of competition he was breaking no law.”
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
He said it was blown out by the media..
Mainly ESPN, the broadcaster for this fight..
Mainly ESPN, the broadcaster for this fight..
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
Robson Conceicao files complaint over controversial loss to Oscar Valdez
Robson Conceicao has filed a complaint with the WBC following his unanimous-decision defeat to Oscar Valdez on Friday in Tucson, Arizona, his manager, Sergio Batarelli, told ESPN.
Among the grievances: the officiating, the judging and the fact Valdez was allowed to retain his title despite testing positive for the banned substance phentermine last month.
The WBC uses the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for its Clean Boxing Program; VADA lists phentermine, a stimulant, as a banned substance. Regardless, the WBC allowed Valdez to retain his title and the Pascua Yaqui Tribe Commission let him fight.
The fight was closely contested, with Conceicao (16-1, 8 KOs) in control over the first five rounds before Valdez (30-0, 23 KOs) rallied. One judge, Stephen Blea, turned in a 117-110 tally in favor of Valdez. The other two judges had the same score: 115-112.
Blea, who scored just three rounds for Conceicao, released a statement Monday through the WBC saying "the 117-110 score is not accurate and does not represent the actions in the ring."
Blea said he erred by not scoring two rounds where he didn't find a clear winner 10-10, instead scoring those for Valdez, giving the champion the benefit in close rounds (something judges aren't supposed to do). Blea also said the crowd noise influenced him. Valdez has adopted Tucson as his hometown, and there were more than 4,500 fans in attendance.
After viewing the bout on ESPN+, Blea now believes Valdez won the fight 115-112 or even 114-113. The judge said he has reached out to officials at the WBC to "undergo a thorough training and review program and will not accept any championship assignments until I complete this process."
Batarelli also reached out to the WBC, but in a very different manner. He filed the complaint with WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman on Monday morning and is looking for an immediate rematch, or short of that, a No. 1 ranking for Conceicao.
He called referee Tony Zaino's performance "biased," clearly a reference to Zaino's questionable decision to deduct one point from Conceicao in Round 9 for hitting behind the head. It appeared to be a light tap and there was no stern warning beforehand. Later on, Valdez landed a stiff rabbit punch but was simply warned.
Batarelli pointed out that there wasn't a single round where Conceicao was outlanded by Valdez, per CompuBox. Of course, there's far more to scoring than simply who landed more punches.
"It's a joke," Batarelli said. "...This guy is not qualified to judge a world title [fight]. Who appointed him? This all is a f---ing mess. It's a f---ing joke.
"Why do you need a drug test if the guys can run over when it's good for them?" he added. "It's not fair. It's really not fair. I hope Sulaiman considers my complaint. ... In Brazil, all the press is talking about this. ... It's hard."
Without the point deduction, Valdez would have won seven rounds to five against the 9-1 underdog, or 115-113. ESPN scored the bout in favor of Conceicao, 114-113. Without the deduction, Blea believes the fight was a Valdez victory, seven to five, or a draw.
Valdez, a 30-year-old Mexican, won the 130-pound title with a brutal knockout of Miguel Berchelt in February. Conceicao, a 32-year-old Brazilian, was competing in his first high-profile bout. The Olympic gold medalist defeated Valdez in the amateurs.
Robson Conceicao has filed a complaint with the WBC following his unanimous-decision defeat to Oscar Valdez on Friday in Tucson, Arizona, his manager, Sergio Batarelli, told ESPN.
Among the grievances: the officiating, the judging and the fact Valdez was allowed to retain his title despite testing positive for the banned substance phentermine last month.
The WBC uses the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for its Clean Boxing Program; VADA lists phentermine, a stimulant, as a banned substance. Regardless, the WBC allowed Valdez to retain his title and the Pascua Yaqui Tribe Commission let him fight.
The fight was closely contested, with Conceicao (16-1, 8 KOs) in control over the first five rounds before Valdez (30-0, 23 KOs) rallied. One judge, Stephen Blea, turned in a 117-110 tally in favor of Valdez. The other two judges had the same score: 115-112.
Blea, who scored just three rounds for Conceicao, released a statement Monday through the WBC saying "the 117-110 score is not accurate and does not represent the actions in the ring."
Blea said he erred by not scoring two rounds where he didn't find a clear winner 10-10, instead scoring those for Valdez, giving the champion the benefit in close rounds (something judges aren't supposed to do). Blea also said the crowd noise influenced him. Valdez has adopted Tucson as his hometown, and there were more than 4,500 fans in attendance.
After viewing the bout on ESPN+, Blea now believes Valdez won the fight 115-112 or even 114-113. The judge said he has reached out to officials at the WBC to "undergo a thorough training and review program and will not accept any championship assignments until I complete this process."
Batarelli also reached out to the WBC, but in a very different manner. He filed the complaint with WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman on Monday morning and is looking for an immediate rematch, or short of that, a No. 1 ranking for Conceicao.
He called referee Tony Zaino's performance "biased," clearly a reference to Zaino's questionable decision to deduct one point from Conceicao in Round 9 for hitting behind the head. It appeared to be a light tap and there was no stern warning beforehand. Later on, Valdez landed a stiff rabbit punch but was simply warned.
Batarelli pointed out that there wasn't a single round where Conceicao was outlanded by Valdez, per CompuBox. Of course, there's far more to scoring than simply who landed more punches.
"It's a joke," Batarelli said. "...This guy is not qualified to judge a world title [fight]. Who appointed him? This all is a f---ing mess. It's a f---ing joke.
"Why do you need a drug test if the guys can run over when it's good for them?" he added. "It's not fair. It's really not fair. I hope Sulaiman considers my complaint. ... In Brazil, all the press is talking about this. ... It's hard."
Without the point deduction, Valdez would have won seven rounds to five against the 9-1 underdog, or 115-113. ESPN scored the bout in favor of Conceicao, 114-113. Without the deduction, Blea believes the fight was a Valdez victory, seven to five, or a draw.
Valdez, a 30-year-old Mexican, won the 130-pound title with a brutal knockout of Miguel Berchelt in February. Conceicao, a 32-year-old Brazilian, was competing in his first high-profile bout. The Olympic gold medalist defeated Valdez in the amateurs.
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
Nothing new will be ruled on the drug test, but they should do something with the 117 judge and the referee, who deducted a point without a warning and simply for tapping a back of the head, clearly not punching. But will all that help against the trademark biased judging in favor of one other guy from that camp?
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs. Robson Conceica | ESPN - September 10, 2021
although i really rate shak (boring as hell though) he's gotta a super thin resume to be a divisional number 1 rated