BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Milas

[aicheligad]

Current list:

1. Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - next fight: 09.10.2021 vs Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - (#3)

2. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 25.09.2021 vs Oleksandr Usyk - 18(13) 0 0 - (#5)

3. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - next fight: 09.10.2021 vs Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - (#1)

4. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 30.10.2021 vs TBA

5. Oleksandr Usyk - 18(13) 0 0 - next fight: 25.09.2021 vs Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 1(1) 0 - (#2)

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Michael Hunter - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 29(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 11(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Óscar Rivas - 27(19) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 22.10.2021 vs Bryant Jennings - 24(14) 4(2) 0 - (unranked, inactive)

15. Tony Yoka - 11(9) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by Tony Yoka's TKO 7 win over Petar Milas?

My vote: Yoka to #14, Milas stays unranked.

[Ruthless-RKO]

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Michael Hunter - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 29(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 11(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

Look at all these.. No fights scheduled. Just waiting their turns

[joshj909]

Yoka to 14 simply because of the time it's been since Rivas' win against Jennings which is his only relevant win.

So much inactivity in that list. If they're waiting for a title shot they're going to be waiting for a long time. It will be over a year until the next mandatory unless the undisputed champ gets stripped. The first mandatory should be Whyte so the rest of them might aswell fight it out for the next ones after that in 2023.

[aicheligad]

Sorry for posting it late, but I hope that we will get some votes anyway.

[DrDuke]

Yoka to 14. He seems to be more relevant than Rivas.

[margaret thatcher]

yoka to 10

[gregregegg]

Yoka to 10.

[George_Jones88]

Yoka to 14

[stpeach]

Question: How are the rankings affected by Tony Yoka's TKO 7 win over Petar Milas?

My vote: Yoka to #13, Milas stays unranked.

[tiny_acres]

Yoka #12

[margaret thatcher]

dudes like ortiz and pulev aint been winning sheet of relevance lately, lets clear these dinosaurs out with far busier young talents

[morm]

Yoka to 10

[gregregegg]

dudes like ortiz and pulev aint been winning sheet of relevance lately, lets clear these dinosaurs out with far busier young talents

My feeling exactly. Ratings should have a decency bias. Instead they have the opposite.

[Frede6]

I thought that Boxrec ranking was updated on a daily basis. But I have not seen any change since Yoka and Hrgovic's fights last Friday. Did I miss something?

[oogiebe]

Yoka to 12.

[aicheligad]

Pulev and Ortiz will get removed rather sooner than later, but for now, Pulev looked good enough vs Joshua (maybe ''good'' isn't an adequate word, but you know what I mean) to keep him on the list, and Ortiz has that KO 1 win over Flores, otherwise he would've been removed due to inactivity.

[aicheligad]

And to be honest, I am not sure that Yoka would beat Ortiz or Pulev even at this point of their careers.

[DrDuke]

And to be honest, I am not sure that Yoka would beat Ortiz or Pulev even at this point of their careers.

I think, those are 50/50 bouts. Each of those fellas is solid, while the young guy is developing and the oldies can show decline at any point.

[gregregegg]

And to be honest, I am not sure that Yoka would beat Ortiz or Pulev even at this point of their careers.

Id back him to beat both back to back same night. but thats not entirely my reasoning for him going up above them. my reason is recent resume.

-In the last 5 years all pulev has done is beat a young flustered cut hughie, sure its a good win but fornicate, if thats 5 years work... plus he should of been DQd vs Dino (minimum NCd)... and didnt win a round vs AJ befor being knocked.

-In the last 5 years ortiz has beat Hammer, been knocked out twice... that is it.

-Yoka has Milas, Hammer, Duahpas, Rice, Allen... Its not world class, sure, but id say its better than those two

[Ruthless-RKO]

And to be honest, I am not sure that Yoka would beat Ortiz or Pulev even at this point of their careers.

Id back him to beat both back to back same night. but thats not entirely my reasoning for him going up above them. my reason is recent resume.

-In the last 5 years all pulev has done is beat a young flustered cut hughie, sure its a good win but fornicate, if thats 5 years work... plus he should of been DQd vs Dino (minimum NCd)... and didnt win a round vs AJ befor being knocked.

-In the last 5 years ortiz has beat Hammer, been knocked out twice... that is it.

-Yoka has Milas, Hammer, Duahpas, Rice, Allen... Its not world class, sure, but id say its better than those two

he did this..




Which won him that round on my card..

[aicheligad]

And to be honest, I am not sure that Yoka would beat Ortiz or Pulev even at this point of their careers.

Id back him to beat both back to back same night. but thats not entirely my reasoning for him going up above them. my reason is recent resume.

-In the last 5 years all pulev has done is beat a young flustered cut hughie, sure its a good win but fornicate, if thats 5 years work... plus he should of been DQd vs Dino (minimum NCd)... and didnt win a round vs AJ befor being knocked.

-In the last 5 years ortiz has beat Hammer, been knocked out twice... that is it.

-Yoka has Milas, Hammer, Duahpas, Rice, Allen... Its not world class, sure, but id say its better than those two

Can see why people want to move Yoka up and remove Pulev & Ortiz, but if we remove them, we have to vote 2 other fighters in and there are not a lot (if any) fighters that really deserve it. Helenius/Kownacki winner, Hrgović, Kabayel etc... their recent accomplishments aren't great either.

[aicheligad]

In the next several months fighters like Rivas, Pulev, Ortiz, Chisora will possibly lose their spots and then we will have to vote quite a lot of next fighters in.

[candyslim]

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Michael Hunter - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 29(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 11(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

Look at all these.. No fights scheduled. Just waiting their turns

Exactly. We should re-evaluate our ratings from scratch every six months otherwise you get a situation where you might feel as I do that maybe Yoka deserves ranking above the undeserving Luis Ortiz, but maybe doesn't quite deserve to go ahead of Chisora just yet.

So with certain misgivings ... Yoka to ten. Milas remains well outside the top fifteen.

[Belanio]

My vote: Yoka to #6, Milas stays unranked.

[Finkel]

Yoka to #13.
I can't quite put him above the old war horses yet.
Chisora in losing efforts to Usyk and Parker is fighting far higher calibre of opponent than Yoka. And whilst I am warming to him, I haven't seen enough to think he would be favoured in a head to head with any of Pulev, Ortiz or Chisora.
Not quite yet anyway.