Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

[gregregegg]

hardcore fury fans love to fellate wilder when they discuss aj-deontay

it would be a closely matched fight, both guys have plenty of flaws and enough power to stop the other

Fury fans play a very very simple game really.

-First step, they pretend Vlad was prime when fury beat him.

-second step, Go along with the tale or ortiz being the slickest southpaw ever to walk the earth, note his amature credentials (of which there are actually non).

-third step, Pretend Ortiz was prime when wilder beat him twice.

-fourth step, Note that fury beat wilder and harp on about his mega power.

-fifth step, Bask in your man being number 1.

[margaret thatcher]

and according to them , fury scored a win over aj today too

[brilo33]

hardcore fury fans love to fellate wilder when they discuss aj-deontay

it would be a closely matched fight, both guys have plenty of flaws and enough power to stop the other. contrary to popular belief, if you look at wilde'rs fights you'll see many fighters gone rounds with him and got up from his shots, he doesnt just evaporate everyone as soon as he lands

tell me mags with the shots aj has been hit with ruiz or usyk would wilder of sparked him

[margaret thatcher]

wilder cant throw a short counter left hook like ruiz can

i dont doubt that aj wouldve stopped wilder if he'd teed off on him like ortiz had too

[coneye]

Is McCracken an overrated trainer? He seems to have taken away what AJ is good at (smashing peoples faces in) and turned him in to what he’s not (a crafty skilful boxer). What were they thinking trying to box and move? He needed to go in there and rough the little guy up. Doesn’t take an expert to see that

Your A man speaking sence ,,

He's being told jab jab jab ,,, then when he's losing , jab right hand ,,, where was the hook , where was the 4th punch , you don't try and box a guy like Usyk , he'll run round you all night ,, you belt him and belt him hard , force him back and keep him defending , he'll slip one or two , maybee move and counter , but if youv,e got the constant pressure on him belting him , he will eventually cover up thats when you'll get through ,, bad bad stupid tactics ,,

[brilo33]

hardcore fury fans love to fellate wilder when they discuss aj-deontay

it would be a closely matched fight, both guys have plenty of flaws and enough power to stop the other

Fury fans play a very very simple game really.

-First step, they pretend Vlad was prime when fury beat him.

-second step, Go along with the tale or ortiz being the slickest southpaw ever to walk the earth, note his amature credentials (of which there are actually non).

-third step, Pretend Ortiz was prime when wilder beat him twice.

-fourth step, Note that fury beat wilder and harp on about his mega power.

-fifth step, Bask in your man being number 1.

no dont agree iam a fury fan , the boy goes down like anyone else ,his day will come like every other fighter i think wilder 3 fight is very dangerous , i go by boxing i like usyk but a 6ft 4 man shouldnt be beating a younger better stronger 6ft 8 boxer

[high tower 1]

Looks that way tonight. Fury is a better and bigger bamboozler

100% mate

He wouldn't beat Fury, but imo he would have slighty more chances against him, than against Usyk. It would be simply easier to land vs Fury, and lucky punch is the only way for him to beat fighters like Fury or Usyk. Still, Fury would be a huge favourite.

The only way AJ has a chance against fury is if fury falls off a cliff with drink and drugs and comes in obese.

[coneye]

I guess that’s the only motivation but if your Joshua surely you do a Dillian Whyte rematch. Far more winnable & he’d probably sell as many PPV’s as a Usyk rematch.

What would be ideal would be for one of the bodies to strip Usyk so that AJ could fight for the vacant title against TBA

Its already in the pipeline ,, believe one bodie , thinks Usyk is too ugly to be champ .

[brilo33]

Is McCracken an overrated trainer? He seems to have taken away what AJ is good at (smashing peoples faces in) and turned him in to what he’s not (a crafty skilful boxer). What were they thinking trying to box and move? He needed to go in there and rough the little guy up. Doesn’t take an expert to see that

Your A man speaking sence ,,

He's being told jab jab jab ,,, then when he's losing , jab right hand ,,, where was the hook , where was the 4th punch , you don't try and box a guy like Usyk , he'll run round you all night ,, you belt him and belt him hard , force him back and keep him defending , he'll slip one or two , maybee move and counter , but if youv,e got the constant pressure on him belting him , he will eventually cover up thats when you'll get through ,, bad bad stupid tactics ,,

hand speed and power you thought aj had over usyk but usyk threw more

[Manchester Hitman]

Maybe if Ricky had conceived with Pacquao’s sister (if Manny has one) then the perfect fighter could have been produced.

But Campbell looks about 50% of the prospect that Ricky did, unfortunately.

2% at best - Campbell is absolute cack. I think the last fight should also have been called a draw.

Ricky and Matthew really need to have a serious think about what there doing here - this kid is going to get hurt sadly.

[coneye]

Is McCracken an overrated trainer? He seems to have taken away what AJ is good at (smashing peoples faces in) and turned him in to what he’s not (a crafty skilful boxer). What were they thinking trying to box and move? He needed to go in there and rough the little guy up. Doesn’t take an expert to see that

Your A man speaking sence ,,

He's being told jab jab jab ,,, then when he's losing , jab right hand ,,, where was the hook , where was the 4th punch , you don't try and box a guy like Usyk , he'll run round you all night ,, you belt him and belt him hard , force him back and keep him defending , he'll slip one or two , maybee move and counter , but if youv,e got the constant pressure on him belting him , he will eventually cover up thats when you'll get through ,, bad bad stupid tactics ,,

hand speed and power you thought aj had over usyk but usyk threw more

Usyk was ALWAYS , ALWAYS , going to come out the pen , throwing punches and moving it was the only way he could win in fact survive , Usyk done what he had to do there was never ever another way for Usyk to fight , that little sway back and counter he does , he done brilliantly catching AJ easy , and why because there was no 3 - 4 - 5 punches from AJ , just a jab , there plan was for AJ to just jab , and then ask Usyk to politly stand still while the right hand followed ,, problem is , he don't understand engliush so well and forgot to read the script ..

Really you would off thought Mckracken would of seen this , and told Fury to jab to get in range then folow with punches in bunches , even if there only hitting arms they will take there toll , and sooner or later you will get through , if you don't grab hold and lean on the saller man , ,,,, OK some may say , AJ does'nt have the stamina to do this , well once again , Mckracken is the head coach and he's had more than enough time to build AJ Bruno's stamina ..

If Aj is going to carry on he needs a new coach

[brilo33]

Your A man speaking sence ,,

He's being told jab jab jab ,,, then when he's losing , jab right hand ,,, where was the hook , where was the 4th punch , you don't try and box a guy like Usyk , he'll run round you all night ,, you belt him and belt him hard , force him back and keep him defending , he'll slip one or two , maybee move and counter , but if youv,e got the constant pressure on him belting him , he will eventually cover up thats when you'll get through ,, bad bad stupid tactics ,,

hand speed and power you thought aj had over usyk but usyk threw more

Usyk was ALWAYS , ALWAYS , going to come out the pen , throwing punches and moving it was the only way he could win in fact survive , Usyk done what he had to do there was never ever another way for Usyk to fight , that little sway back and counter he does , he done brilliantly catching AJ easy , and why because there was no 3 - 4 - 5 punches from AJ , just a jab , there plan was for AJ to just jab , and then ask Usyk to politly stand still while the right hand followed ,, problem is , he don't understand engliush so well and forgot to read the script ..

Really you would off thought Mckracken would of seen this , and told Fury to jab to get in range then folow with punches in bunches , even if there only hitting arms they will take there toll , and sooner or later you will get through , if you don't grab hold and lean on the saller man , ,,,, OK some may say , AJ does'nt have the stamina to do this , well once again , Mckracken is the head coach and he's had more than enough time to build AJ Bruno's stamina ..

If Aj is going to carry on he needs a new coach

yea i agree thats what i saing aj had speed and power over usyk , though usyk through a 5 punch combo in the 7th i think never landed but still

[margaret thatcher]

aj had speed over usyk? dont agree on that one! usyk made aj look slow and laboured

[brilo33]

aj had speed over usyk? dont agree on that one at all!

hand speed i said you think usyk is quicker, sorry maggs not trying to dig you out at every chance ,

[margaret thatcher]

usyk is defo quicker

[brilo33]

usyk is defo quicker

so why do you rate aj as a boxer slower flat footed , his power aint all that, cant really take a big shot ,

[aicheligad]

100% mate

He wouldn't beat Fury, but imo he would have slighty more chances against him, than against Usyk. It would be simply easier to land vs Fury, and lucky punch is the only way for him to beat fighters like Fury or Usyk. Still, Fury would be a huge favourite.

The only way AJ has a chance against fury is if fury falls off a cliff with drink and drugs and comes in obese.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving him more than 1-2% chances at this point But it's a HW boxing and Fury is always an enigma, we will never what to expect from him.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk is defo quicker

so why do you rate aj as a boxer slower flat footed , his power aint all that, cant really take a big shot ,

his power is some of the best in the division (how many guys are bigger hitters?) and he's got fairly quick hands for his super heavyweight size, but not comparable to usyk,.

[brilo33]

usyk is defo quicker

so why do you rate aj as a boxer slower flat footed , his power aint all that, cant really take a big shot ,

his power is some of the best in the division (how many guys are bigger hitters?) and he's got fairly quick hands for his super heavyweight size, but not comparable to usyk,.

i dont belive what you wrote there aj has quicker than usyk , usyk werent some speed merchant he just landed straight lefts in aj head pretty simple really nothing fancy about it

[margaret thatcher]

nah, usyk's faster

aj is a top level puncher, fairly fast for a shw, good range of punches, throws shots with good form. but a bit stiff in movements and cant make it all flow comfortably and automatically the way usyk does

[brilo33]

usyk is defo quicker

so why do you rate aj as a boxer slower flat footed , his power aint all that, cant really take a big shot ,

his power is some of the best in the division (how many guys are bigger hitters?) and he's got fairly quick hands for his super heavyweight size, but not comparable to usyk,.

there is a lot of bigger hitters , but what you give up in hitting you give up in defence so they might not be better , Ajagba,Hrgovic,martin yes charles

[brilo33]

nah, usyk's faster

aj is a top level puncher, fairly fast for a shw, good range of punches, throws shots with good form. but a bit stiff in movements and cant make it all flow comfortably and automatically the way usyk does

no dont agree aj is a better puncher than usyk , but usyk is a better boxer , but showed how much of a better boxer , what were we even talking about

[peter barlow]

I missed Hatton Jr's fight but my old man was convinced Hatton lost that fight and got a robbery? Is that the case?

I'm fairly sure Campbell Hatton was 1/100 on to win with PP before it.

[margaret thatcher]

so why do you rate aj as a boxer slower flat footed , his power aint all that, cant really take a big shot ,

his power is some of the best in the division (how many guys are bigger hitters?) and he's got fairly quick hands for his super heavyweight size, but not comparable to usyk,.

there is a lot of bigger hitters , but what you give up in hitting you give up in defence so they might not be better , Ajagba,Hrgovic,martin yes charles

based on what do those guys hit harder??

ajagba took like 8 rounds to stop raz cojanu . couldnt remotely budge ali demirezin or jon rice. that's way below where aj has been fighting

hrgovic crushes cans. look at how aj destroyed kev johnson, and then how hrgovic couldnt come close to stopping an older version. hrgovic couldnt stop sean turner.

martin??

[peter barlow]

I've been a Fury fan since the beginning the Channel 5 days. I was there in Dusseldorf on that famous night.

Regardless of what happened tonight AJ gives Fury a very tough night no doubt about it. Usyk didn't have it easy tonight either. People are fickle, AJ is still are a very hard night for any heavyweight.

If Tyson is the best he will show it once more against Wilder, Usyk and AJ

i agree peter iam the same iam fury fan from the start , every top 10 fighter is tough fight otto will show whyte how much a push over he is , aj is a good boxer on his night but his night has gone , i think aj got lucky against Klitschko and was never an elite fighter , dont mean he is bad

I agree Wallin likely gives Whyte a tough night mate.

On AJ I do wonder did Ruiz Jr take something from him. I'm not sure he's been the same since, he seems vulnerable. The invincibility is long gone. The tactics were wrong tonight imo