Mexi-Box wrote: ↑06 Dec 2018, 19:02
Bellew, Breidis, and Hunter are better HWs than the guys he just mentioned. Utterly pointless for Usyk to fight them.
Usyk needs to face a borderline top 10 to 15 contender in his first outing. I'd suggest someone considerably bigger.
Size doesn't seem to matter with Michael Hunter who has been stopping big HW's. Usyk doesn't need to face anyone on the fringes. He can face Whyte today and beat him. I'd say he can face AJ today and beat him too, but I guess it'll be a benefit for him to fight someone in the top 10 first so he can be given a chance and potentially make more money.
And people were saying he'd lose to King Kong rofl!
marvelous marv wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 06:42
Let's be honest, all the top heavies beat Joshua.
You may well be right.
There's no doubting Joshua's strengths, but he has some alarming be weaknesses for a top-line heavy.
His stamina is poor; he can't decide if he wants to be a boxer or a puncher and despite looking quicker in recent times, he has reverted back to being Frank Bruno lite in terms of speed.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 08:32
This isnt some astounding predicition. A lot of people said Usyk would win. Hes a lot better boxer
There is a little bit of difference, I spoke about that three years ago (Usyk was still at CW), I predicted that he would be capable to beat every HW, only problem would be Fury.
The great majority of posters spoke about size, weight, punch power.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 08:32
This isnt some astounding predicition. A lot of people said Usyk would win. Hes a lot better boxer
I was saying this at the height of this forum saying how the HW landscape changed and that we needed a SHW division because of Klitschko, Joshua, and Wilder being virtually unbeatable due to their size. I said Usky could move up and beat Joshua without hesitation. Hugely different the landscape then and now. I wouldn't be patting myself on the back if I predicted that even early this year.
People were saying Usky couldn't even beat King Kong around this time.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 08:32
This isnt some astounding predicition. A lot of people said Usyk would win. Hes a lot better boxer
I was saying this at the height of this forum saying how the HW landscape changed and that we needed a SHW division because of Klitschko, Joshua, and Wilder being virtually unbeatable due to their size. I said Usky could move up and beat Joshua without hesitation. Hugely different the landscape then and now. I wouldn't be patting myself on the back if I predicted that even early this year.
People were saying Usky couldn't even beat King Kong around this time.
Where would the cutoff be for Super heavy? Wilder is not an abnormal weight for any heavy dating back even 30-40+ years.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 08:32
This isnt some astounding predicition. A lot of people said Usyk would win. Hes a lot better boxer
I was saying this at the height of this forum saying how the HW landscape changed and that we needed a SHW division because of Klitschko, Joshua, and Wilder being virtually unbeatable due to their size. I said Usky could move up and beat Joshua without hesitation. Hugely different the landscape then and now. I wouldn't be patting myself on the back if I predicted that even early this year.
People were saying Usky couldn't even beat King Kong around this time.
Where would the cutoff be for Super heavy? Wilder is not an abnormal weight for any heavy dating back even 30-40+ years.
I never argued that. I think it was getting overblown because Joshua and Klitschko were lucking unbeatable. I'd tag Briedis to move up and rock the HW division as well. I wouldn't sleep on Briedis. He destroyed Charr when he moved up, and he was green then. CW are smaller, but it's a tougher division and they have that balance of power and athleticism that is unmatched at HW. I remember when people were harping that Eddie Chambers would rule CW if he lost weight. Dude got scared back to HW because his fast hands weren't that fast at CW .
