Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - September 25, 2021

[adislav123]

and this was clear from the start to everybody who knows a bit and doesn't fall for the 'powermonster' vs 'featherfisted cruiser' shit!

he could have at least a chance to land a bomb though if just by accident.

if u don't even try at all like gunshy since ruiz josh did, phlegmatic airjabbing, going thru the motions until u get jumped, than there's zero chance.

[Cyclops]

and this was clear from the start to everybody who knows a bit and doesn't fall for the 'powermonster' vs 'featherfisted cruiser' shit!

he could have at least a chance to land a bomb though if just by accident.

if u don't even try at all like gunshy since ruiz josh did, phlegmatic airjabbing, going thru the motions until u get jumped, than there's zero chance.

I had to Google this. Good word.

[Thomastearns]

The narrative seems to be all that AJ has to do is be more aggressive etc, as if Usyk will just give up fighting if that happens.

People are saying that because of Usyk's performance in the Dereck Chisora fight.

And let's face it, AJ has never been a pure boxer, but yet he decided to try to outbox a master boxer.

Perhaps AJ will never be able to beat Oleksabdr Usyk, but I feel he'll do better with a completely different gameplan.

The problem is that AJ doesn't have the toughest chin in boxing. He's certainly no George Foreman or Sonny Liston, but he's a better boxer than them.

Without a decent chin, it's a complete waste of time trying to slug it out, as Amir Khan has clearly demonstrated on a few occasions.

As for the Chisora fight, there's an alternative opinion that Usyk was happy to win that one with the least effort.

If he had wanted to stop Chisora rather than just ease to a points decision, perhaps he could have done.

In fact he said that if he had wanted to stop Joshua, he could probably have done that too.

But why take that risk when all of your dreams are there for the taking?

It's a sobering thought, but right now no one knows just how good Olekandr Usyk is.

[Ruthless-RKO]

He said he didn’t want to KO Joshua out in front of his home crowd and family..

[DrDuke]

He said he didn’t want to KO Joshua out in front of his home crowd and family..

Just showing too much respect. Initially he admitted that was trying to develop the success from time to time, but was held back by the corner.

[adislav123]

The narrative seems to be all that AJ has to do is be more aggressive etc, as if Usyk will just give up fighting if that happens.

People are saying that because of Usyk's performance in the Dereck Chisora fight.

And let's face it, AJ has never been a pure boxer, but yet he decided to try to outbox a master boxer.

Perhaps AJ will never be able to beat Oleksabdr Usyk, but I feel he'll do better with a completely different gameplan.

The problem is that AJ doesn't have the toughest chin in boxing. He's certainly no George Foreman or Sonny Liston, but he's a better boxer than them.

Without a decent chin, it's a complete waste of time trying to slug it out, as Amir Khan has clearly demonstrated on a few occasions.

As for the Chisora fight, there's an alternative opinion that Usyk was happy to win that one with the least effort.

If he had wanted to stop Chisora rather than just ease to a points decision, perhaps he could have done.

In fact he said that if he had wanted to stop Joshua, he could probably have done that too.

But why take that risk when all of your dreams are there for the taking?

It's a sobering thought, but right now no one knows just how good Olekandr Usyk is.

that's quite a bold statement and a very, very wrong at that.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- I remember the Fury/Price furor where the usual suspects here couldn't see Fury as more than a club fighter, so go figure the usual suspects who predominate this forum.

Now apparently AJ is the new forum club fighter while ignoring the statistical evidence, ie of 685 points cast for AJ/Usyk, Usyk won by a 0.016% margin. Had 3 of those 11 Usyk points been assigned to two of those cards, we have a majority draw leaving the usual suspects needing oxygen masks on the way to the hospital, but it is what it is, and what it "is is"(see Billy Slick Impeachment testimony) rematch time where yet again AJ sells out the stadium, so are the people wrong about AJ?

Let's fast forward to the 9th and most telling round of the first fight where Usyk lands the perfect left hand that pops AJ's right eye. Here is the post fight cleaned up version of Usyk's face:



If Usyk don't land that perfect punch again, we have a situation of what the former US president and progenitor of GWDumb would characterize as "Deep Doo Doo."

So let's see all them boxing expert betting slips in advance of the rematch, yeah! This gonna be funner than a dumpster full of roided Howler Monkeys...only on Boxrec...

[The Gratest]

Usyk proved quite a few people wrong, myself included. Some are taking their incorrect prediction better than others.

[margaret thatcher]

of 685 points cast for AJ/Usyk, Usyk won by a 0.016% margin.

that's the most convulated way ive seen anyone basically say that usyk won 117-112, 116-112, and 115-113

[squiggy]

Yeah, that was some of the stupidest dicking around the numbers that I've ever seen. A 120-108 wipeout is probably only about 52% of the total points, and that's fine because nobody in the universe thinks of it that way.

[gregregegg]

- I remember the Fury/Price furor where the usual suspects here couldn't see Fury as more than a club fighter, so go figure the usual suspects who predominate this forum.

Now apparently AJ is the new forum club fighter while ignoring the statistical evidence, ie of 685 points cast for AJ/Usyk, Usyk won by a 0.016% margin. Had 3 of those 11 Usyk points been assigned to two of those cards, we have a majority draw leaving the usual suspects needing oxygen masks on the way to the hospital, but it is what it is, and what it "is is"(see Billy Slick Impeachment testimony) rematch time where yet again AJ sells out the stadium, so are the people wrong about AJ?

Let's fast forward to the 9th and most telling round of the first fight where Usyk lands the perfect left hand that pops AJ's right eye. Here is the post fight cleaned up version of Usyk's face:



If Usyk don't land that perfect punch again, we have a situation of what the former US president and progenitor of GWDumb would characterize as "Deep Doo Doo."

So let's see all them boxing expert betting slips in advance of the rematch, yeah! This gonna be funner than a dumpster full of roided Howler Monkeys...only on Boxrec...

This either quality trolling or someone with a serious learning deficiency. Either way good job for getting involved and trying.

[margaret thatcher]

Yeah, that was some of the stupidest dicking around the numbers that I've ever seen. A 120-108 wipeout is probably only about 52% of the total points, and that's fine because nobody in the universe thinks of it that way.

lol ya, 120-108 x 3 would be 684 total, with a 36 point differnence

36 is only 5 percent of 684..............wow only 5 percent! so close

[Ruthless-RKO]

I hate when people use post fight pictures of boxers faces..

Everyone has different skin.

Some people mark up way more than others do.
It may have been just 4 punches which caused them bruises.

How about we look at video evidence?after the fight. Who was running around and who was concussed leaning over his corner with his whole team worried?

How about that for evidence?

Put some respect on Usyk’s name.

[margaret thatcher]

agree, vitali looked worse than kev johnson after their fight and had a big shiner, despite getting hit about 20 times all fight and easily winning every round

was a 9-3/8-4 win for usyk, maybe some ppl are exaggerating how easy he won, josh still gave a fight, but a handy win no doubt

[DrDuke]

agree, vitali looked worse than kev johnson after their fight and had a big shiner, despite getting hit about 20 times all fight and easily winning every round

was a 9-3/8-4 win for usyk, maybe some ppl are exaggerating how easy he won, josh still gave a fight, but a handy win no doubt

9-3 max.

[Ruthless-RKO]

agree, vitali looked worse than kev johnson after their fight and had a big shiner, despite getting hit about 20 times all fight and easily winning every round

was a 9-3/8-4 win for usyk, maybe some ppl are exaggerating how easy he won, josh still gave a fight, but a handy win no doubt

Yeh, even GGG marks up quite a bit..

[adislav123]

agree, vitali looked worse than kev johnson after their fight and had a big shiner, despite getting hit about 20 times all fight and easily winning every round

was a 9-3/8-4 win for usyk, maybe some ppl are exaggerating how easy he won, josh still gave a fight, but a handy win no doubt

9-3 max.

watching it live i just couldn't find that 3rd won joshua round for the hell of it, might rewatch it.

have to say it again, the judges scorecards after 8 rounds were frikkin' criminal.

was the last round (as joshua was about to lie down on to the canvas) actually cut short 6 seconds as the live timer clearly showed?

or as i read in one article was live timing 'out of sync' and the round did go the full 3 minutes?

[margaret thatcher]

i thought josh won 5,6, 8........and then either the 2nd or 3rd i thought was a swing round, i forget which. i gave it to usyk though for 9-3 overall

[DrDuke]

agree, vitali looked worse than kev johnson after their fight and had a big shiner, despite getting hit about 20 times all fight and easily winning every round

was a 9-3/8-4 win for usyk, maybe some ppl are exaggerating how easy he won, josh still gave a fight, but a handy win no doubt

9-3 max.

watching it live i just couldn't find that 3rd won joshua round for the hell of it, might rewatch it.

have to say it again, the judges scorecards after 8 rounds were frikkin' criminal.

was the last round (as joshua was about to lie down on to the canvas) actually cut short 6 seconds as the live timer clearly showed?

or as i read in one article was live timing 'out of sync' and the round did go the full 3 minutes?

If to count after the window with time disappears, it'll be less seconds, than it had been supposed to be there. However, the window appeared not immediately after the starting bell. There could be a delayed display of time. I didn't check it myself with turning a timer on since the first bell until the final one.

[Enlightened-One]

watching it live i just couldn't find that 3rd won joshua round for the hell of it, might rewatch it.

Rounds 6 and 8 definitely went AJ’s way.

Whilst I scored the 5th for Usyk, all the judges and several media sources preferred AJ’s work that round.

I only gave AJ two rounds, but a couple of others were close.

[Enlightened-One]

Did Anthony Joshua's corner throw in the towel ?

[gregregegg]

Did Anthony Joshua's corner throw in the towel ?

looks like they were going to but never did. that said a ref sees that they are within there rights to stop it id say.

Would of been a ballsy towl throw with a few seconds to go, no knock down, 3 belts on the line and although we all agree usyk won and most think fairly wide, its a UK fight vs a mega A side. when the fight finnished even though i had it 9-2 and an even i still thought there was about a 25% chance that AJ would win on the cards, so throwing a towl with 3 seconds left seems crazy.

[Cyclops]

Did Anthony Joshua's corner throw in the towel ?

looks like they were going to but never did. that said a ref sees that they are within there rights to stop it id say.

Would of been a ballsy towl throw with a few seconds to go, no knock down, 3 belts on the line and although we all agree usyk won and most think fairly wide, its a UK fight vs a mega A side. when the fight finnished even though i had it 9-2 and an even i still thought there was about a 25% chance that AJ would win on the cards, so throwing a towl with 3 seconds left seems crazy.

It's mildly annoying that I hear these little conspiracy theories about the bell being rung early and now the towel because I bet on Usyk by late stoppage. I was happy because my man in the fight won and the bet was only a bit of fun, but I could be crowing like EO is now about what a boxing genius I am and how much cash I'd made with my brilliantly accurate prediction.

[gregregegg]

Did Anthony Joshua's corner throw in the towel ?

looks like they were going to but never did. that said a ref sees that they are within there rights to stop it id say.

Would of been a ballsy towl throw with a few seconds to go, no knock down, 3 belts on the line and although we all agree usyk won and most think fairly wide, its a UK fight vs a mega A side. when the fight finnished even though i had it 9-2 and an even i still thought there was about a 25% chance that AJ would win on the cards, so throwing a towl with 3 seconds left seems crazy.

It's mildly annoying that I hear these little conspiracy theories about the bell being rung early and now the towel because I bet on Usyk by late stoppage. I was happy because my man in the fight won and the bet was only a bit of fun, but I could be crowing like EO is now about what a boxing genius I am and how much cash I'd made with my brilliantly accurate prediction.

I also bet usyk stoppage and usyk late stoppage. Mainly cause I couldent bring myself to have my bet on the hands of judges…

To be fair this isnt really a conspiracy (unless the video is edited.), it’s a genuine inquiry I think. And on this case probably a fair one (once again if that’s legit footage).

[Ruthless-RKO]

Did Anthony Joshua's corner throw in the towel ?

looks like they were going to but never did. that said a ref sees that they are within there rights to stop it id say.

Would of been a ballsy towl throw with a few seconds to go, no knock down, 3 belts on the line and although we all agree usyk won and most think fairly wide, its a UK fight vs a mega A side. when the fight finnished even though i had it 9-2 and an even i still thought there was about a 25% chance that AJ would win on the cards, so throwing a towl with 3 seconds left seems crazy.

It's mildly annoying that I hear these little conspiracy theories about the bell being rung early and now the towel because I bet on Usyk by late stoppage. I was happy because my man in the fight won and the bet was only a bit of fun, but I could be crowing like EO is now about what a boxing genius I am and how much cash I'd made with my brilliantly accurate prediction.

They’d probably just soaked the towel and was drying it, ready to slap on AJ’s back after the fight. Case closed.