Luis Ortiz rejected the Joe Joyce fight!

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Luis Ortiz: If Joe Joyce Really Wants a War - Fight Me on Tank's Undercard!

“I am going to return to the ring on Tank’s undercard and I would like nothing more than to fight Joe Joyce. You said I don’t want a war well now I am inviting you to war. What’s your excuse now lying Joe?” Ortiz told Boxing Scene.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 06:33 Luis Ortiz: If Joe Joyce Really Wants a War - Fight Me on Tank's Undercard!

“I am going to return to the ring on Tank’s undercard and I would like nothing more than to fight Joe Joyce. You said I don’t want a war well now I am inviting you to war. What’s your excuse now lying Joe?” Ortiz told Boxing Scene.
Here's a novel idea? Luis Ortiz's handlers should submit an offer to Joe Joyce's team for a fight.

If the Brit rejects the fight, then the allegedly "fearsome" 'King Kong' Ortiz can boast about it.

But he won't do this, will he? He's going to engage in more mismatches whilst dishonestly claiming that all of his world-rated peers are far too scared to face him!

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.
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Unless Joyce responds saying he wants the fight now, we will all know he was lying, and still not ready for old man Ortiz.

Lying Joe, with lying EO trolling on his behalf. Sad.
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Joyce could do worst than fight King Kong on a US undercard -
IF
it's a genuine offer of course.
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Bandog wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 11:51 Unless Joyce responds saying he wants the fight now, we will all know he was lying, and still not ready for old man Ortiz.

Lying Joe, with lying EO trolling on his behalf. Sad.
Anthony Joshua claims Luis Ortiz rejected an offer to fight him.

Dillian Whyte claims Luis Ortiz rejected offers to fight him.

Joe Joyce claims Luis Ortiz rejected offers to fight him.

Otto Wallin claims Luis Ortiz rejected an offer to fight him.

These are claims conveyed to the media by all four fighters.

I did not lie. It is far too easy to find evidence of AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin claiming that Luis Ortiz refused to face them.

It is also very easy to find proof of Team Ortiz openly admitting to rejecting the AJ bout! They admitted to lying when they claimed they turned down the fight due to being low-balled!

It's rather sad to see you defend a fighter like Luis Ortiz! :OhYes:
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All these boxers claiming that Ortiz rejected a fight.

Fair enough, the AJ one was made public.

Was the Whyte/Ortiz some sort of final eliminator?

What where the other offers exactly? Isn't it just word of mouth?

I'm gonna email one of the execs of PBC. Offer £1k for Ortiz to fight.

When I get no reply, I'm, gonna claim that Ortiz has rejected to fight me. :TU:
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It comes down to who you want to believe. In EO's case, he takes hearsay, spins it to fit his narrative, and uses it to troll people on the forum.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 12:47 All these boxers claiming that Ortiz rejected a fight.

Fair enough, the AJ one was made public.

Was the Whyte/Ortiz some sort of final eliminator?

What where the other offers exactly? Isn't it just word of mouth?

I'm gonna email one of the execs of PBC. Offer £1k for Ortiz to fight.

When I get no reply, I'm, gonna claim that Ortiz has rejected to fight me. :TU:
Well of course, you’re absolutely right!

A two-time PED drug test failing Ortiz, whose team admitting to lying when they were being low-balled by AJ, are noble fellows with great integrity!

We should wholeheartedly believe 100% of every word Team Ortiz utter, because they ALWAYS tell the TRUTH!!!

By the way, please educate me on the offers Team Ortiz have submitted to any of Luis' world-rated big-name rivals, which were subsequently rejected? Just one of them will do!




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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 12:47 All these boxers claiming that Ortiz rejected a fight.

Fair enough, the AJ one was made public.
Here's a video of Luis Ortiz (from November 2020) pretending he didn't receive a genuine offer to fight AJ. In fact, he's claiming he accepted it and didn't reject anything!


Luis Ortiz's manager (April 2019): “I think I jumped the gun when I called it a low ball offer.

“It is our promoter that is low balling him. The one that financially backed us from day one.

“He was trying to get money that is not far off where they were.

“He was trying to pull more money for Luis and for the team.

“He had an insight that there was an open check book for the fight and that they had to pay it and that it was easy.

“I was upset with both of them and I was in the middle. I just said ‘deal with him already’ because the other side, our side, felt we should go back and forth.

“This is a big fight and I think they were both dis-negotiating. I think I dropped the ball.”


The guy is delusional!!! A 180 degree u-turn on what his own manager told the media 18 months prior! :yay:

Luis Ortiz is a lying, cheating, coward!!!! :OhYes:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 12:47 All these boxers claiming that Ortiz rejected a fight.

Fair enough, the AJ one was made public.

Was the Whyte/Ortiz some sort of final eliminator?

What where the other offers exactly? Isn't it just word of mouth?

I'm gonna email one of the execs of PBC. Offer £1k for Ortiz to fight.

When I get no reply, I'm, gonna claim that Ortiz has rejected to fight me. :TU:
bruh, ortiz is a proven liar, his own boxing career is basically just making up a sh!tload of unsubstantiated and provenly fraudlent claims himself :lol:
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offers are only as good as the dollars that go with them. Im sure ortiz will send joe an offer.... like 100K to be on an undercard or something stupid. If however its well over a million then we are getting somewhere.
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If Joyce sent Ortiz an offer, make it public and re-submit it. Should be easy. I think either Joyce is lying, or his team is lying to him. It seems he's gone quiet now since called on it. Name dropping just like Ruiz. Whyte talked big too but ran from the final eliminator vs Ortiz when ordered.
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Bandog wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 07:16 If Joyce sent Ortiz an offer, make it public and re-submit it. Should be easy. I think either Joyce is lying, or his team is lying to him. It seems he's gone quiet now since called on it. Name dropping just like Ruiz. Whyte talked big too but ran from the final eliminator vs Ortiz when ordered.
Excluding Bryant Jennings, what do you consider to be Luis Ortiz’s career best victory (in the pro ranks over the last 11½ years)?

And which top-ten world-rated heavyweights have declined offers submitted by Team Ortiz to fight the Cuban?

Apart from the Panamerican Championships, which international amateur tournaments has Luis Ortiz won?

And do you seriously believe Luis Ortiz’s amateur record is allegedly 343-19?
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Bandog wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 07:16 If Joyce sent Ortiz an offer, make it public and re-submit it. Should be easy. I think either Joyce is lying, or his team is lying to him. It seems he's gone quiet now since called on it. Name dropping just like Ruiz. Whyte talked big too but ran from the final eliminator vs Ortiz when ordered.
ortiz is the king of name dropping, talks a bunch and names everyone left and right but then runs when offered the fights, and gives no evidence of ever actually making offers himself (but then his fanbois expect it from other fighters)

hes a proven liar (and multi time ped cheat) and yet you still take everything he says as true, you are too easy :lol:
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All this Ortiz bashing is soooo pathetic. Luis Ortiz is a hell of a fighter, the way he blew out Jennings and that tall southpaw dude, those were impressive wins. Kinda strange that he would lose to Wilder but nobody stays young forever.

I'm wondering, if I bash Ortiz will I myself look bigger and badder? Will I get a raise? Will young women flock to my feet or...... will I just be the same old pathetic me?
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I suspect much of the Ortiz bashing wouldn't happen if not Wilder haters downplaying his two wins over him.
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H8Usernames wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 17:05 All this Ortiz bashing is soooo pathetic. Luis Ortiz is a hell of a fighter, the way he blew out Jennings and that tall southpaw dude, those were impressive wins. Kinda strange that he would lose to Wilder but nobody stays young forever.

I'm wondering, if I bash Ortiz will I myself look bigger and badder? Will I get a raise? Will young women flock to my feet or...... will I just be the same old pathetic me?
ask ortiz, he knows as good as anyone about bashing fighters :lol:

says it all though, that the tall southpaw dude, 46 year old tony thomson coming off a loss and then immediately retiring, is probably better than anyone he's beat since 2016
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 17:11
H8Usernames wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 17:05 All this Ortiz bashing is soooo pathetic. Luis Ortiz is a hell of a fighter, the way he blew out Jennings and that tall southpaw dude, those were impressive wins. Kinda strange that he would lose to Wilder but nobody stays young forever.

I'm wondering, if I bash Ortiz will I myself look bigger and badder? Will I get a raise? Will young women flock to my feet or...... will I just be the same old pathetic me?
ask ortiz, he knows as good as anyone about bashing fighters :lol:

says it all though, that the tall southpaw dude, 46 year old tony thomson coming off a loss and then immediately retiring, is probably better than anyone he's beat since 2016
Name me 20 better wins since then at HW. Bet you can't do it so it was a damn good win for Ortiz.
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Fury over Wilder
Wilder over Ortiz x2
Joshua over Wlad, Takam, Breazeale, Parker, Povetkin, Pulev, Ruiz
Ruiz over Joshua
Usyk over Joshua
Whyte over Rivas, Parker, Helenius, Chisora
Chisora over Takam
Pov over Whyte
Helenius over Kownacki
Joyce over Dubois, Takam, and Jennings
Kownacki over Martin, Washington, Arreola
Washington over Helenius
Wallin over Breazeale
Pulev over Chisora, Fury
Rivas over Jennings

not too hard, thompson was closer to 50 than 40 and at the end of the line. 2 years earlier he'd hardly won a round vs carlos takam
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 18:00
I'll give you these 8. The rest really don't make the cut. A beating B like everyone expected in decent fashion doesn't belong on that list.

Joshua over Wlad
Ruiz over Joshua
Usyk over Joshua
Chisora over Takam
Pov over Whyte
Helenius over Kownacki
Joyce over Dubois
Pulev over Chisora

Tony was a boogeyman having ended the careers of Odlanier and Price. Also retireing Tony was an achievement, Tony certainly wouldn't have retired after slapping some ho around for a round or two. Ortiz did the unexpected that night and dominated Tony before knocking him out, a great victory.
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:lol:
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Does anyone remember the time Luis Ortiz preferred to be stripped of his WBA interim title, due to ducking Alexander Ustinov?

Luis Ortiz chose to fight Malik Scott, rather than defending his WBA title against Alexander Ustinov!

What I’ve written may sound ridiculous, but Google it… it bloody well happened! :o

The winners of Fury-Klitschko II and Ortiz-Usyinov were supposed to face each other, but the Cuban allowed his title to be stripped, so that he could face Malik Scott instead!

Here’s the official statement from the WBA:

Lastly, Luis Ortiz has been stripped of the interim WBA World heavyweight title for failing to fight Alexander Ustinov, as stipulated in the purse bid held on August 15, 2016, with the understanding that failure to comply with WBA Rules would result in a loss of his title.

Ortiz instead decided to fight Malik Scott on November 12 in Monaco, with the WBA Intercontinental title on the line.
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What do Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov all have in common?

They’ve all been ducked by the allegedly “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz!!! :lol:

Read the previous post to be informed about Ortiz ducking Ustinov!
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H8Usernames wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 18:14
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 18:00
I'll give you these 8. The rest really don't make the cut. A beating B like everyone expected in decent fashion doesn't belong on that list.

Joshua over Wlad
Ruiz over Joshua
Usyk over Joshua
Chisora over Takam
Pov over Whyte
Helenius over Kownacki
Joyce over Dubois
Pulev over Chisora

Tony was a boogeyman having ended the careers of Odlanier and Price. Also retireing Tony was an achievement, Tony certainly wouldn't have retired after slapping some ho around for a round or two. Ortiz did the unexpected that night and dominated Tony before knocking him out, a great victory.
You’ll accept hele over kow but not whyte over Parker?
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he's trollin bruh, he wouldnt accept aj koing a guy who nearly shutout tony either :lol:
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