Luis Ortiz rejected the Joe Joyce fight!

[watsupdoc87]

Does anyone remember the time Luis Ortiz preferred to be stripped of his WBA interim title, due to ducking Alexander Ustinov?

Luis Ortiz chose to fight Malik Scott, rather than defending his WBA title against Alexander Ustinov!

What I’ve written may sound ridiculous, but Google it… it bloody well happened!

The winners of Fury-Klitschko II and Ortiz-Usyinov were supposed to face each other, but the Cuban allowed his title to be stripped, so that he could face Malik Scott instead!

Here’s the official statement from the WBA:

“ Lastly, Luis Ortiz has been stripped of the interim WBA World heavyweight title for failing to fight Alexander Ustinov, as stipulated in the purse bid held on August 15, 2016, with the understanding that failure to comply with WBA Rules would result in a loss of his title.

Ortiz instead decided to fight Malik Scott on November 12 in Monaco, with the WBA Intercontinental title on the line.”

Was that supposed to be part of an 8 man wba tournament ??

[lazboy]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

[KiwiRider]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

Scott was flubbering around like Ortiz stole his spine. It was weird.

[lazboy]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

Scott was flubbering around like Ortiz stole his spine. It was weird.

That looked far more action packed then it had any right to be lol.

[gregregegg]

Ortiz is goat, knocked down Malik 27 times.

[Enlightened-One]

Does anyone remember the time Luis Ortiz preferred to be stripped of his WBA interim title, due to ducking Alexander Ustinov?

Luis Ortiz chose to fight Malik Scott, rather than defending his WBA title against Alexander Ustinov!

What I’ve written may sound ridiculous, but Google it… it bloody well happened!

The winners of Fury-Klitschko II and Ortiz-Usyinov were supposed to face each other, but the Cuban allowed his title to be stripped, so that he could face Malik Scott instead!

Here’s the official statement from the WBA:

“ Lastly, Luis Ortiz has been stripped of the interim WBA World heavyweight title for failing to fight Alexander Ustinov, as stipulated in the purse bid held on August 15, 2016, with the understanding that failure to comply with WBA Rules would result in a loss of his title.

Ortiz instead decided to fight Malik Scott on November 12 in Monaco, with the WBA Intercontinental title on the line.”

Was that supposed to be part of an 8 man wba tournament ??

Here's the official WBA stance:

"The winner of Ortiz-Ustinov will face the man who emerges victorious from the Tyson Fury-Wladimir Klitschko rematch scheduled for June."

Golden Boy vice president, Eric Gomez, even told the WBA (and also The RING) the purse bid wasn’t required since they’d already agreed the terms of a deal with Alexander Ustinov’s handlers. Apparently, the only thing that needed finalising was the date.

All I know is that Luis Ortiz only needed to beat Alexander Ustinov to receive a guaranteed shot at the Fury-Klitschko winner for the world heavyweight championship.

And beating Ustinov would have also allowed Oriz to retain ownership of his WBA world interim title too.

But instead, he refused the Alexander Ustinov fight, in favour of receiving a small payday to appear on the undercard of a Matchroom event in front a small crowd at a tiny Monte Carlo casino.

Luis Ortiz knew that ducking Alexander Ustinov would result in him losing his shot at the Fury-Klitschko winner and also being stripped of his WBA world interim title.

For some strange reason, Luis Ortiz’s die-hard fans pretend he’s never rejected any bouts, they claim his resume is seriously impressive and they also wholeheartedly believe the biggest names in the heavyweight division are far too terrified to face him, but nothing they say makes any sense to me, unless they’re simply trolling?

[Enlightened-One]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

And I also remember the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz failing to stop an opponent that had been TKO’d by an out-of-form Dereck Chisora 3½ years prior.

The Sky Sports hype machine went into overdrive promoting the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz (aka ‘The Boogeyman’), but after his terribly disappointing performances against Malik Scott and Dave Allen, both Eddie Hearn and Adam Smith lost interest and stopped working with the Cuban hype job.

What on earth possessed Luis Ortiz to duck Alexander Ustinov to face Malik Scott instead?

[Bandog]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

And I also remember the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz failing to stop an opponent that had been TKO’d by an out-of-form Dereck Chisora 3½ years prior.

The Sky Sports hype machine went into overdrive promoting the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz (aka ‘The Boogeyman’), but after his terribly disappointing performances against Malik Scott and Dave Allen, both Eddie Hearn and Adam Smith lost interest and stopped working with the Cuban hype job.

What on earth possessed Luis Ortiz to duck Alexander Ustinov to face Malik Scott instead?

Once again, more lies fro EO. There were several snags preventing the fight, but ironically Ustinov refusing VADA testing was the biggest.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs ... ng--108430

[Enlightened-One]

I actually remember that Malik Scott fight - what an absolute farce. Malik literally ran from Ortiz the whole night and when Ortiz landed anything significant, Malik flopped to the floor. This is the man that’s training Wilder lol.

And I also remember the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz failing to stop an opponent that had been TKO’d by an out-of-form Dereck Chisora 3½ years prior.

The Sky Sports hype machine went into overdrive promoting the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz (aka ‘The Boogeyman’), but after his terribly disappointing performances against Malik Scott and Dave Allen, both Eddie Hearn and Adam Smith lost interest and stopped working with the Cuban hype job.

What on earth possessed Luis Ortiz to duck Alexander Ustinov to face Malik Scott instead?

Once again, more lies fro EO. There were several snags preventing the fight, but ironically Ustinov refusing VADA testing was the biggest.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs-manager- ... ng--108430

Are you saying that both sides initially agreed all the terms of a deal (excluding the fight date), Team Ortiz then revised those terms by including contractual stipulations that weren’t mandated by the WBA, Ustinov rejected those new conditions, so the Cuban faced Malik Scott instead, knowing full-well he’d be stripped of his WBA interim title and would also miss-out on a guaranteed world title shot against the winner of the Klitschko-Fury bout?

The following year, Luis Ortiz tested positive for banned substances for the second time in his career, with the first occasion happening 18 months prior to the Ustinov situation.

What was Alexander Ustinov’s take on the situation?

And why did the WBA punish Luis Ortiz for rejecting the bout, but not Alexander Ustinov?

You seem to believe everything Team Ortiz claims, even though they’ve already admitted to lying!

You always seem to have an excuse for every time Luis Ortiz ducks an opponent (i.e. Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov)!

[Bandog]

And I also remember the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz failing to stop an opponent that had been TKO’d by an out-of-form Dereck Chisora 3½ years prior.

The Sky Sports hype machine went into overdrive promoting the “fearsome” Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz (aka ‘The Boogeyman’), but after his terribly disappointing performances against Malik Scott and Dave Allen, both Eddie Hearn and Adam Smith lost interest and stopped working with the Cuban hype job.

What on earth possessed Luis Ortiz to duck Alexander Ustinov to face Malik Scott instead?

Once again, more lies fro EO. There were several snags preventing the fight, but ironically Ustinov refusing VADA testing was the biggest.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs-manager- ... ng--108430

Are you saying that both sides initially agreed all the terms of a deal (excluding the fight date), Team Ortiz then revised those terms by including contractual stipulations that weren’t mandated by the WBA, Ustinov rejected those new conditions, so the Cuban faced Malik Scott instead, knowing full-well he’d be stripped of his WBA interim title and would also miss-out on a guaranteed world title shot against the winner of the Klitschko-Fury bout?

The following year, Luis Ortiz tested positive for banned substances for the second time in his career, with the first occasion happening 18 months prior to the Ustinov situation.

What was Alexander Ustinov’s take on the situation?

And why did the WBA punish Luis Ortiz for rejecting the bout, but not Alexander Ustinov?

You seem to believe everything Team Ortiz claims, even though they’ve already admitted to lying!

You always seem to have an excuse for every time Luis Ortiz ducks an opponent (i.e. Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov)!

[Enlightened-One]

Once again, more lies fro EO. There were several snags preventing the fight, but ironically Ustinov refusing VADA testing was the biggest.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs-manager- ... ng--108430

Are you saying that both sides initially agreed all the terms of a deal (excluding the fight date), Team Ortiz then revised those terms by including contractual stipulations that weren’t mandated by the WBA, Ustinov rejected those new conditions, so the Cuban faced Malik Scott instead, knowing full-well he’d be stripped of his WBA interim title and would also miss-out on a guaranteed world title shot against the winner of the Klitschko-Fury bout?

The following year, Luis Ortiz tested positive for banned substances for the second time in his career, with the first occasion happening 18 months prior to the Ustinov situation.

What was Alexander Ustinov’s take on the situation?

And why did the WBA punish Luis Ortiz for rejecting the bout, but not Alexander Ustinov?

You seem to believe everything Team Ortiz claims, even though they’ve already admitted to lying!

You always seem to have an excuse for every time Luis Ortiz ducks an opponent (i.e. Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov)!

Thank you for conceding defeat!

[candyslim]

Just because he has no answer and has been reduced to resorting to a puerile emoji response, doesn't mean he won't be posting the same old bollocks in a day or two.

It's like playing whack-a-mole. I don't know how you have the patience. For all the notice the guy takes of a reasoned argument you might just as well put it to him in Dutch.

[margaret thatcher]

he's pulled the racism card out for his other 2 gay crushes, andrade and wilder, wonder if we'll get it for ortiz too

[candyslim]

Don't forget what a dirty fighter Fury is. Punches that land back of the head. I guess Ortiz is a paragon of virtue like Wilder.

[Bandog]

It's more like tired of re-hashing the same old crap. I stand by everything I've said. I really don't care if you like it or not. Nobody on the board aside from a few fools enjoy it.

[adislav123]

who the fornicate carrs about that shite.

it's all the fvckin' manager's shenanigans, all gamble, all about money.

you can't tell me that any of the mentioned fighters themselves are scared of any of each o6her.

well, u can tell me...

they wouldn't be where they are if they were afraid of another man in the ring.

they all would take on the best at the moment in their respective division in a second.

ur talking about manager's pulling shit. not the actual fighters.

guess u all got shit mixed up here.

[Bandog]

who the fornicate carrs about that shite.

it's all the fvckin' manager's shenanigans, all gamble, all about money.

you can't tell me that any of the mentioned fighters themselves are scared of any of each o6her.

well, u can tell me...

they wouldn't be where they are if they were afraid of another man in the ring.

they all would take on the best at the moment, fury in a second.

ur talking about manager's pulling shit. not the actual fighters.

guess u all got shit mixed up here.

True. I could find an article on the internet to fit my narrative on any subject. Fools read something and take it as fact. Trolls like EO eat it up, then calls boxers cowards.

You're right, no boxer is afraid. A lot of behind the scenes stuff goes on that we don't know about.

[adislav123]

to be specific, you can't convince me that ortiz himself wouldn't have agreed within the same second of being asked to fight joshua.


for free at that.

whatever shit his handlers pulled in negotiations is a different story.

[Enlightened-One]

A lot of behind the scenes stuff goes on that we don't know about.

That's probably because you don't perform any research and nor do you pay attention to interview transcripts or videos.

You always seem to have an excuse for every time Luis Ortiz ducks an opponent (i.e. Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov)!

[margaret thatcher]

how about ortiz-wilder 3, the comeback

since wilder is the only fighter with a pulse ortiz is willing to face in years...