Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - October 9, 2021

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hearn yesterday on Talk Sport mentioned his prep' being a bit off due to some personal issues. I'm just hoping he's on his game.

What f*cking Eddeh Hearn can know about the Fury's camp?

Yeh. What’s he doing trying to sell this fight?

He doesn’t know anything. That’s just his opinion.

[The Gratest]

Edie Hearn is the boxing world's eye of Sauron. He sees everything.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Bob Arum discusses Fury-Wilder 3 press conference blow-up with media members

Video of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum getting into a verbal confrontation with boxing reporter Mike Coppinger went viral, and I’m guessing it will have a solid shelf life, because it’s not every day you see an almost 90-year-old man bark and snarl at a guy young enough to be his grandson, who also happens to work for ESPN.

At Wednesday’s Fury-Wilder 3 press conference, Arum — working in concert with Premier Boxing Champions for Saturday’s show — took questions from media, and not just about this weekend’s event.

Arum discussed his “disappointment” in the way Triller mishandled the Teofimo Lopez-George Kambosos Jr fight, which will now be promoted by Matchroom Boxing.

“Here’s a kid, Teofimo, who wins the fight that nobody expected him to win, and he’s on top of the world, and he hasn’t fought in over a year,” said Arum. “That’s a criminal, criminal—” and he was then interrupted by Coppinger, who joined the ESPN ranks a few months ago and stood six or seven feet from Arum.

“Yeah, but Bob, it wouldn’t have went to purse bid if you’d have paid (Lopez) what he was looking for,” Coppinger said, and you can see Arum’s face tense up. The promoter hesitates a half second, then lets loose with a doubled barreled counter. “Shut the fornicate up you little prick, yeah, you prick,” he barked.

“Oh yeah? Yeah?” Coppinger responded. “Go ahead.” Arum directed Derrick Harmon to usher Coppinger away. In the video, which got posted to several websites, you see Harmon respond after Arum said, “Get him outta here. Move him outta here, Derrick.”

I messaged Coppinger to see what that was all about. I was curious if he was telling Arum it was OK to try and take a poke at him. Coppinger declined to comment, but Arum did not. Bob told me that he took offense in the moment because Coppinger was out of his lane, essentially.

“He’s a reporter, for Christ’s sake,” Arum said a couple hours after the hubbub. “What’s he doing, that’s not acting like a reporter!”

But Arum did say he had no intention of making it anything more than a verbal trade. “I haven’t retired from the (promotional) game, I’m still doing this, but I retired from fighting, like, 20 years ago.”

Arum also got quite animated when discussing what seemed like a possible snafu at the end of the presser. Emcee Kate Abdo, as solid and smooth as they come in this role, asked if maybe the fighters would like to come together for a face-off. She then announced that no, that wouldn’t be happening, at the behest of Bob Arum. I didn’t think it was any sort of big deal, but Arum took umbrage, and unloaded a mini rant about Abdo’s attempt to fashion a faceoff.

He said to a group of media that he thought Abdo was slanted in favor of Wilder, and he went off on it, saying, “fornicate her and fornicate them, there was no face-off, and we saved the fight.”

Arum felt the plan to not do a face-off at the presser — which he said had been pre-discussed with FOX producers — was being ignored, but he expended more energy than needed in the moment. And he admitted as much to me when I told him that I think Abdo is a consummate pro. Yes, Arum allowed, and said he did touch base with her after he let loose with his critique, and he stands corrected.

Arum essentially said he apologized to her, and I also messaged Abdo to give her the opportunity to share her take on the matter, and will insert a response if furnished.

My Three Cents: Points to Arum, for being that fired up at 89-plus. You could argue points to Copp, too, for speaking truth to power, even if you think sometimes he and we the media blur lines between reporting news and offering opinion.

[Ruthless-RKO]

full card info and TV schedule

Wednesday, October 6

ESPN2 and FS1, 5:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 press conference. There will also be live streams from PBC and Top Rank, one assumes, and if so we’ll have streams for you.

Friday, October 8

ESPN2 and FS1, 5:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 weigh-in. Same as the presser, surely there will be live streams, and we’ll be here with coverage.

Saturday, October 9

ESPN App and FOX Sports App, 4:30 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 “Early Undercard.” The earliest fights from Vegas. The thread for the whole show will be up, of course, but we’ll still be focused on the Smith-Fowler card through these early fights.

ESPN+, ESPN2 and FS1, 7:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 Undercard. Do not get this confused: There will be a three-fight undercard on the PPV card, but these are more early fights fishing for last-minute buys. There will be two fights on this portion of the card. Bad Left Hook will have live coverage.

PPV, 9:00 pm ET, Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder 3. To be clear here, the undercard bouts on the PPV portion of the broadcast are Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez, Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki 2, and Jared Anderson vs Vladimir Tereshkin. It’s an all-heavyweight PPV. You know what Fury-Wilder 3 is, what it’s for, what it’s about, why you should want to see it. No reason to go on. As always, we’ll be here. Bad Left Hook will have live coverage.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

Fury spoke about this. Said he's only been sparring for the last 3 weeks. In August/September his daughter was born with a condition and I believe she needed life saving surgery. So he took 2 weeks out of camp for that

But said 3 weeks was plenty of time and he'd be training daily as part of his routine since the last fight pretty much. And had plenty of sparring in that time.

So Hearn is sort of correct in that this isn't a long camp. But Fury reckons he's in top condition and says he won't have any excuses if he loses. Fury will also have had 18 more months working on the Kronk style, which he only had a few months of for the second fight. Both Fury and Sugar Hill have stated he's much better in the style now than he was in the second fight.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Fury spoke about this. Said he's only been sparring for the last 3 weeks. In August/September his daughter was born with a condition and I believe she needed life saving surgery. So he took 2 weeks out of camp for that

But said 3 weeks was plenty of time and he'd be training daily as part of his routine since the last fight pretty much. And had plenty of sparring in that time.

So Hearn is sort of correct in that this isn't a long camp. But Fury reckons he's in top condition and says he won't have any excuses if he loses. Fury will also have had 18 more months working on the Kronk style, which he only had a few months of for the second fight. Both Fury and Sugar Hill have stated he's much better in the style now than he was in the second fight.

Yeah, good points.

He will probably be sat down on his punches more, which suggests an early bath for Shaka Foolu.

[DrDuke]

Also, Fury pointed out, that he has been training for nearly a year. There were several breaks, including some time off after testing positive for covid and during problems with his daughter, but hardly those affected. No real signs of his camps lacking quality.

[vidal]

good to hear

[maverick23]

Is this set to be a big big fight in the US? It had been fairly quiet in the U.K. but it’s ramped up in the last day or two.

[Tony1244]

full card info and TV schedule

Wednesday, October 6

ESPN2 and FS1, 5:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 press conference. There will also be live streams from PBC and Top Rank, one assumes, and if so we’ll have streams for you.

Friday, October 8

ESPN2 and FS1, 5:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 weigh-in. Same as the presser, surely there will be live streams, and we’ll be here with coverage.

Saturday, October 9

ESPN App and FOX Sports App, 4:30 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 “Early Undercard.” The earliest fights from Vegas. The thread for the whole show will be up, of course, but we’ll still be focused on the Smith-Fowler card through these early fights.

ESPN+, ESPN2 and FS1, 7:00 pm ET, Fury vs Wilder 3 Undercard. Do not get this confused: There will be a three-fight undercard on the PPV card, but these are more early fights fishing for last-minute buys. There will be two fights on this portion of the card. Bad Left Hook will have live coverage.

PPV, 9:00 pm ET, Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder 3. To be clear here, the undercard bouts on the PPV portion of the broadcast are Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez, Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki 2, and Jared Anderson vs Vladimir Tereshkin. It’s an all-heavyweight PPV. You know what Fury-Wilder 3 is, what it’s for, what it’s about, why you should want to see it. No reason to go on. As always, we’ll be here. Bad Left Hook will have live coverage.

Thank You Much, Ruthless!

[Tony1244]

It may be merely nationalism, and nationalism is fine, but this emphasis on Wilder's eloquence is quite silly.

you brought it up, people simply disagreed, omg theyre dirty nationalists!

1) I never brought up racism. 2) I never said nationalism was dirty. Otherwise you are spot on.

[Enlightened-One]

Fury spoke about this. Said he's only been sparring for the last 3 weeks. In August/September his daughter was born with a condition and I believe she needed life saving surgery. So he took 2 weeks out of camp for that

But said 3 weeks was plenty of time and he'd be training daily as part of his routine since the last fight pretty much. And had plenty of sparring in that time.

So Hearn is sort of correct in that this isn't a long camp. But Fury reckons he's in top condition and says he won't have any excuses if he loses. Fury will also have had 18 more months working on the Kronk style, which he only had a few months of for the second fight. Both Fury and Sugar Hill have stated he's much better in the style now than he was in the second fight.

Yeah, good points.

He will probably be sat down on his punches more, which suggests an early bath for Shaka Foolu.

Earlier on today, Efe Ajagba explained to the BBC that he’d been sparring with Tyson Fury and learned a lot from him.

The Nigerian felt he was a bigger puncher than ‘The Gypsy King’, but he also conceded that it was difficult to land punches on the WBC champ, due to a combination of his long reach and constant movement.

Ajagba claimed it was very difficult to get into punching range against Fury, which is surprising, since Tyson usually weighs around the 255lbs mark (at his peak), but is expected to weigh more than 290lbs against Wilder. I'd expect Fury to be slower if he's so much heavier.

I’m not sure how to interpret Ajagba’s words, because they suggest that (despite Tyson’s limited sparring), the Brit has mainly focussed on boxing rather than fighting.

In terms of Ajagba’s boasts about him being a bigger puncher than Fury, they need to be taken with a pinch of salt, because his words suggest he hasn’t faced the physically aggressive (more) flat-footed version of Tyson that destroyed Wilder in the rematch.

[Tony1244]

Sign of the times that both guys were on their phone during the press conference.

Perhaps we can agree both these gents are amoung the worst dressers I've ever seen.

[Enlightened-One]

Thoughts of the day (since I may change my mind in the next day or so)…

Tyson Fury tests Deontay Wilder’s newly acquired pugilistic skills by keeping the fight at long-range, beyond the reach of the American’s hooks and uppercuts, in order to outbox ‘The Bronze Bomber’(via awkward feints, jabs & footwork).

When he’s boxing on the outside, Fury will keep away from the ropes, trying to own the centre of the ring, to give him an escape route (a backwards step or two), should Wilder attempt to throw one of his clumsy leaping haymakers.

To pace himself and also wear down Wilder, Fury will quickly and intermittently transition from long to close range and back again (avoiding Wilder’s mid-range blows), so that he can occasionally engage in a chest-to-chest grinding ugly physical clinch fight.

When he’s engaged in clinches, Tyson will use his superior size to push Wilder, forcing the American to retreat and lean his back on the ropes, with all his body weight resting on his heels, preventing Deontay from having any leverage behind his shots.

I think that’ll be Fury’s game-plan and path to victory, though I am very concerned about the Brits weight gain, the damage around his eyes, the lacklustre sparring rumours, coupled with boxing insiders (such as Eddie Hearn) claims about Tyson being out-of-shape.

[Thomastearns]

Bob Arum discusses Fury-Wilder 3 press conference blow-up with media members

Video of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum getting into a verbal confrontation with boxing reporter Mike Coppinger went viral, and I’m guessing it will have a solid shelf life, because it’s not every day you see an almost 90-year-old man bark and snarl at a guy young enough to be his grandson, who also happens to work for ESPN.

At Wednesday’s Fury-Wilder 3 press conference, Arum — working in concert with Premier Boxing Champions for Saturday’s show — took questions from media, and not just about this weekend’s event.

Arum discussed his “disappointment” in the way Triller mishandled the Teofimo Lopez-George Kambosos Jr fight, which will now be promoted by Matchroom Boxing.

“Here’s a kid, Teofimo, who wins the fight that nobody expected him to win, and he’s on top of the world, and he hasn’t fought in over a year,” said Arum. “That’s a criminal, criminal—” and he was then interrupted by Coppinger, who joined the ESPN ranks a few months ago and stood six or seven feet from Arum.

“Yeah, but Bob, it wouldn’t have went to purse bid if you’d have paid (Lopez) what he was looking for,” Coppinger said, and you can see Arum’s face tense up. The promoter hesitates a half second, then lets loose with a doubled barreled counter. “Shut the fornicate up you little prick, yeah, you prick,” he barked.

“Oh yeah? Yeah?” Coppinger responded. “Go ahead.” Arum directed Derrick Harmon to usher Coppinger away. In the video, which got posted to several websites, you see Harmon respond after Arum said, “Get him outta here. Move him outta here, Derrick.”

I messaged Coppinger to see what that was all about. I was curious if he was telling Arum it was OK to try and take a poke at him. Coppinger declined to comment, but Arum did not. Bob told me that he took offense in the moment because Coppinger was out of his lane, essentially.

“He’s a reporter, for Christ’s sake,” Arum said a couple hours after the hubbub. “What’s he doing, that’s not acting like a reporter!”

But Arum did say he had no intention of making it anything more than a verbal trade. “I haven’t retired from the (promotional) game, I’m still doing this, but I retired from fighting, like, 20 years ago.”

Arum also got quite animated when discussing what seemed like a possible snafu at the end of the presser. Emcee Kate Abdo, as solid and smooth as they come in this role, asked if maybe the fighters would like to come together for a face-off. She then announced that no, that wouldn’t be happening, at the behest of Bob Arum. I didn’t think it was any sort of big deal, but Arum took umbrage, and unloaded a mini rant about Abdo’s attempt to fashion a faceoff.

He said to a group of media that he thought Abdo was slanted in favor of Wilder, and he went off on it, saying, “fornicate her and fornicate them, there was no face-off, and we saved the fight.”

Arum felt the plan to not do a face-off at the presser — which he said had been pre-discussed with FOX producers — was being ignored, but he expended more energy than needed in the moment. And he admitted as much to me when I told him that I think Abdo is a consummate pro. Yes, Arum allowed, and said he did touch base with her after he let loose with his critique, and he stands corrected.

Arum essentially said he apologized to her, and I also messaged Abdo to give her the opportunity to share her take on the matter, and will insert a response if furnished.

My Three Cents: Points to Arum, for being that fired up at 89-plus. You could argue points to Copp, too, for speaking truth to power, even if you think sometimes he and we the media blur lines between reporting news and offering opinion.

Let's hope the fight is as half as good

[KiwiRider]

Thoughts of the day (since I may change my mind in the next day or so)…

Tyson Fury tests Deontay Wilder’s newly acquired pugilistic skills by keeping the fight at long-range, beyond the reach of the American’s hooks and uppercuts, in order to outbox ‘The Bronze Bomber’(via awkward feints, jabs & footwork).

When he’s boxing on the outside, Fury will keep away from the ropes, trying to own the centre of the ring, to give him an escape route (a backwards step or two), should Wilder attempt to throw one of his clumsy leaping haymakers.

To pace himself and also wear down Wilder, Fury will quickly and intermittently transition from long to close range and back again (avoiding Wilder’s mid-range blows), so that he can occasionally engage in a chest-to-chest grinding ugly physical clinch fight.

When he’s engaged in clinches, Tyson will use his superior size to push Wilder, forcing the American to retreat and lean his back on the ropes, with all his body weight resting on his heels, preventing Deontay from having any leverage behind his shots.

I think that’ll be Fury’s game-plan and path to victory, though I am very concerned about the Brits weight gain, the damage around his eyes, the lacklustre sparring rumours, coupled with boxing insiders (such as Eddie Hearn) claims about Tyson being out-of-shape.

Nice and in depth as usual EO.
I can see that transpiring for sure.
Don't worry about the bit of damage around Fury's eyes. I doubt Wilder will be poking a jab and actually landing it there. And if Fury does get cut, and needs to unleash hell in case it is in danger of being stopped, he will. He will also be on top of the points if it goes to an early decision from a clash.
Of course the variable is; what has Wilder learned since the last fight?
New (not very experienced) trainer, and a more sedate attitude.

[Bandog]

Malik Scott said he didn't teach him anything new, just some tweaks and reminders he has other tools than his right hand and head hunting. Some lateral movement to stay off the ropes, body shots, and letting his hands go.

We'll see soon if it helped. No surprises, and hopefully no excuses from either guy. No rematch clause so this is it.

[Bandog]

Anyone else notice the disclaimer EO snuck in so he can change his mind?

And NO! He's not telling who he bet on until after the fight!

[margaret thatcher]

no rematch? so i guess the best wilder can end with vs fury is 1-1-1

[bobcatbox]

I’m psyched! Wilder gonna knock Fury out and then clobber little guy Usyk to become the undisputed champ. Then he’ll reign for five years on bums! Heads will explode!

[margaret thatcher]

that will only happen if he finds a way to overcome the bad juju he says he's been cursed with - even if he gets through fury, never underestimate that trickster usyk. he can work wonders with juju

[marvelous marv]

Wilder - Fury 4 seems inevitable.

[lazboy]

I'm very pumped, guys. Tyson seems to be in the right headspace as seen below. He's an inspirational guy.

"Let me tell you something you already know. Wilder ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. He is a very mean and nasty person and will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let him. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as Wilder. But it ain’t how hard you hit; it’s about how hard you can get hit (by Wilder), and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done. Now, if you know what you’re worth, then go out and get what you’re worth. But you gotta be willing to take the right haymaker, and not pointing fingers saying you ain’t where you are because of Mark Breland. Cowards do that and that ain’t me. I'm better than that. Because, every champion was once a contender who refused to give up."

[goose 5]

Wilder loses and blames an illness-not covid- for his defeat.

[margaret thatcher]

the best part of wilder losing, is to see what new excuses he (and his asshole suckers like banny) could come up with, he's put together quite the list for fight 2