handsofstone wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021, 16:56
Wilder carries Broner types of unlikablity , a cretin of a man and a pathetic embarrassment, I'd like to see Fury load his gloves this time tbh, it would be his own fault
I can't believe I only found out about Wilder and his team chasing BJ Saunders out of Nandos in Belfast and down Shaftesbury Square 3 years ago just yesterday, now there is an instance where I wouldn't mind Wilder chinning the other guy, Billy Joe is one of the biggest cretins on boxing, and I've never seen a fighting man run so fast
Do you know why they were chasing him? He threw a f*cking chicken at them and instantly ran away. Why no one filmed it?
handsofstone wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021, 16:56
Wilder carries Broner types of unlikablity , a cretin of a man and a pathetic embarrassment, I'd like to see Fury load his gloves this time tbh, it would be his own fault
I can't believe I only found out about Wilder and his team chasing BJ Saunders out of Nandos in Belfast and down Shaftesbury Square 3 years ago just yesterday, now there is an instance where I wouldn't mind Wilder chinning the other guy, Billy Joe is one of the biggest cretins on boxing, and I've never seen a fighting man run so fast
Do you know why they were chasing him? He threw a f*cking chicken at them and instantly ran away. Why no one filmed it?
The part where Billy Joe walks up and shakes his hand and Wilder mentions Billy Joe calling him a racist c*nt which Billy confirms and Wilder stands up to do something and people trying to break it up are filmed, but the next footage just Saunders running for his life from Wilders team, presumably after he threw the chicken
Wilder is a racist. Can’t remember if it was the first or second fury fight but the rapper who walked him into the ring with him was spouting some terrible stuff - had a white rapper demonstrated the same level of racism he’d be in jail and the streets would still be burning now
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021, 17:36
Wilder is a racist. Can’t remember if it was the first or second fury fight but the rapper who walked him into the ring with him was spouting some terrible stuff - had a white rapper demonstrated the same level of racism he’d be in jail and the streets would still be burning now
Well to be fair Billy Joe is an absolutely bigoted ignorant homophobe who moans about racism towards travellers while being one of the biggest pieces of scum human beings in the sport in recent times so he's not really one to talk himself is he?
He also said the Irish should be grateful to Daniel Kinahan, being Irish that's worse than anything Wilder has ever said apart from his insistence on wanting to kill someone in the ring, but unlike Daniel, I don't think Wilder has actually been involved in murder, much less mass murder
I'm not sure Wilder is racist himself but the vast majority of his fans in this fight certainly are. I think he has just attached himself to whatever bandwagon would indulge him. The Malcolm X brigade who are very vocal on twitter and youtube will ditch him for Gevronta Davis after this..
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021, 17:36
Wilder is a racist. Can’t remember if it was the first or second fury fight but the rapper who walked him into the ring with him was spouting some terrible stuff - had a white rapper demonstrated the same level of racism he’d be in jail and the streets would still be burning now
Well to be fair Billy Joe is an absolutely bigoted ignorant homophobe who moans about racism towards travellers while being one of the biggest pieces of scum human beings in the sport in recent times so he's not really one to talk himself is he?
He also said the Irish should be grateful to Daniel Kinahan, being Irish that's worse than anything Wilder has ever said apart from his insistence on wanting to kill someone in the ring, but unlike Daniel, I don't think Wilder has actually been involved in murder, much less mass murder
There is nothing for us to be grateful to Kinahan for. Sure some fighters got extra paydays but pro boxing showings have been eliminated from Ireland for many years now and are no sooner coming back due to security concerns.
I believe Wilder will be destroyed and leave the ring inside 4 rounds. This may get brutal for Wilder, I'm unsure he is mentally fit to fight. He will likely fold almost immediately,
peter barlow wrote: ↑07 Oct 2021, 20:39
I'm not sure Wilder is racist himself but the vast majority of his fans in this fight certainly are. I think he has just attached himself to whatever bandwagon would indulge him. The Malcolm X brigade who are very vocal on twitter and youtube will ditch him for Gevronta Davis after this..
Does seem to be a big racial element to fights such as this with American fans that you don’t really get in the UK.
Maybe I’m naive but if Fury was to fight Joshua, I’d think they’d be white people supporting Joshua and vice versa depending on your preference.
I think Fury will be cagier in the opening rounds than in the last fight but start to dominate from Round 3-4 onwards and Wilder will get disheartened. I think he’ll stop him again but this time slightly later.
coneye wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 01:22
Who's training Fury for this one is it the same fella
Yeah, Sugar Hill crew.
I don’t know why Wilder kept saying Fury changed his trainer twice.
He changed his trainer before his MH comeback and then after the first fight. So technically, once during both Wilder fights.
Reason he changed? He knew he wasn’t gonna get a fair share on the cards and probably knew he had to change his style a bit.
Spot on
The intriguing part is, Fury was only training with the sugar hill crew for a couple of months before the second fight. In that time, they made a style transformation of Fury and put a bit of dog in the man. Now imaging Fury continuing with Sugar Hill Stewart and the gym for a further 18 months off and on...
I don’t know why Wilder kept saying Fury changed his trainer twice.
He changed his trainer before his MH comeback and then after the first fight. So technically, once during both Wilder fights.
Reason he changed? He knew he wasn’t gonna get a fair share on the cards and probably knew he had to change his style a bit.
Spot on
The intriguing part is, Fury was only training with the sugar hill crew for a couple of months before the second fight. In that time, they made a style transformation of Fury and put a bit of dog in the man. Now imaging Fury continuing with Sugar Hill Stewart and the gym for a further 18 months off and on...
Yeh, when was the Wallin fight? September.. his last fight with Davison.
Then Wilder 2 was Feb. 5 months or less he had with Hil.
I like Wilder, think he’s a good man under all the bluster, remember he took up boxing to look after his severely disabled daughter.
I’m not sure about the racist angle people seem to be playing up, though we should maybe bear in mind he comes from ku klux Klan central, good ol boy Alabama.
He’s definitely got a fighting heart, there’s no quit in him at all…
although watching the first fight again it really does look like Tyson has his number, but if he comes out all guns blazing, anything could happen, as also seen in fight 1.
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 05:31
I like Wilder, think he’s a good man under all the bluster, remember he took up boxing to look after his severely disabled daughter.
I’m not sure about the racist angle people seem to be playing up, though we should maybe bear in mind he comes from ku klux Klan central, good ol boy Alabama.
Yeah he strikes me as very, very stupid and easily led and influenced, rather than a bad bloke.
To be fair, Wilder indeed has some guts. He overcame adversity against Ortiz and was ready to take more beating against Fury. However, it seems like mentally he's a sorta exaggerated version of Mike Tyson, not able to deal with a one who breaks his overconfidence.
DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 05:39
To be fair, Wilder indeed has some guts. He overcame adversity against Ortiz and was ready to take more beating against Fury. However, it seems like mentally he's a sorta exaggerated version of Mike Tyson, not able to deal with a one who breaks his overconfidence.
Without doubt his heart was there , just his experience against , quality opposition and how to adapt was.nt
From the interviews and footage, seems Wilder has been working on going to the body and using left hook more. Question is, how effective is it going to be teaching him all this new stuff right at the end of his career? I can't help but think after a couple of rounds of getting caught off it he's going to go back to type.
Why no one filmed it?
