BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs Wilder

[peter barlow]

You could make a case that Usyk is higher than Fury in P4P because of his Cruiserweight achievements.

But not higher in Heavyweight ranking. He's had 3 Heavyweight wins, and one a tight fight against Chisora who Fury beat twice already.

[ironbeard]

No, I'm not changing my vote.

But I could have went Fury 1, Wilder 2. Usyk down to 3. Which would have made as much sense as your vote.

Yes, you “could have,” and guess what…I would not be accusing you of being “sneaky,” nor would I be questioning the credibility of the rankings while simultaneously asserting that I “don’t care.”

You understand that these aren't the official rankings and are just a bit of fun amongst a bunch of nerds on an internet message board?

Of course I do. Direct your question to the clown accusing people voting according their opinions of being “sneaky,” and claiming the rankings lack any credibility if the vote does not go his way.

I normally vote and move on, but this is precious.

[ewenhay]

Yes, you “could have,” and guess what…I would not be accusing you of being “sneaky,” nor would I be questioning the credibility of the rankings while simultaneously asserting that I “don’t care.”

You understand that these aren't the official rankings and are just a bit of fun amongst a bunch of nerds on an internet message board?

Of course I do. Direct your question should go to the clown accusing people voting according their opinions of being “sneaky,” and claiming the rankings lack any credibility if the vote does not go his way.

I normally vote and move on, but this is precious.

I didn't like your vote. Deal with it.

You're the one whining about it now in every post.

[Simon Lock]

I vote no change.

[ironbeard]

You understand that these aren't the official rankings and are just a bit of fun amongst a bunch of nerds on an internet message board?

Of course I do. Direct your question should go to the clown accusing people voting according their opinions of being “sneaky,” and claiming the rankings lack any credibility if the vote does not go his way.

I normally vote and move on, but this is precious.

I didn't like your vote. Deal with it.

You're the one whining about it now in every post.

You are a clown and you have clearly demonstrated it.

Wait a minute…didn’t you claim to be moving on from this thread that you don’t care about?

You seem conflicted.

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

No change for either Fury or Wilder.

[ewenhay]

Of course I do. Direct your question should go to the clown accusing people voting according their opinions of being “sneaky,” and claiming the rankings lack any credibility if the vote does not go his way.

I normally vote and move on, but this is precious.

I didn't like your vote. Deal with it.

You're the one whining about it now in every post.

You are a clown and you have clearly demonstrated it.

Wait a minute…didn’t you claim to be moving on from this thread that you don’t care about?

You seem conflicted.

Are you still in primary school?

Posting some turd emojis and calling me a clown repeatedly isn't going to make me agree with you.

As I said, it clearly matters more to you than me.

[gregregegg]

Wilder to 7. Showed good grit, but hasn’t won a fight in 2 years and got pretty belter by what I belive was a sub optimum fury.

If we are voting on it I’d say Sanchez to 15, hele to the mythical 16 (if anyone gets dropped he enters)

[ironbeard]

I didn't like your vote. Deal with it.

You're the one whining about it now in every post.

You are a clown and you have clearly demonstrated it.

Wait a minute…didn’t you claim to be moving on from this thread that you don’t care about?

You seem conflicted.

Are you still in primary school?

Posting some turd emojis and calling me a clown repeatedly isn't going to make me agree with you.

As I said, it clearly matters more to you than me.

According to your public posts, it clearly means more to you. Or, were you just being a “sneaky” little clown when you disparaged the credibility of the rankings if the vote did not go your way?

[tiny_acres]

Fury #1
Wilder #4
Before this fight I thought Usyk should be #1. Now I am sure Fury is the best.
I was tempted to put Wilder over Joshua because I think he would beat him. But the 2 ko losses can not move him up

[ewenhay]

You are a clown and you have clearly demonstrated it.

Wait a minute…didn’t you claim to be moving on from this thread that you don’t care about?

You seem conflicted.

Are you still in primary school?

Posting some turd emojis and calling me a clown repeatedly isn't going to make me agree with you.

As I said, it clearly matters more to you than me.

According to your public posts, it clearly means more to you. Or, were you just being a “sneaky” little clown when you disparaged the credibility of the rankings if the vote did not go your way?

When has anyone ever been voted down the list before for knocking out a former belt holder?

Anyway, I'm bored of you now so I'll say that this is my last word on the matter. That will then allow you to get the last word as that seems really important to you.

Then we can both stop sh*tting all over this thread and stop boring everyone else.

[ironbeard]

Anyone BUT Fury would not been allowed to continue v Wallin. Usyk would slice and dice Wallin.

Wallin is the ONLY decent opponent that Fury has fought besides Wilder post meltdown.

Usyk is #1 until proven otherwise.

Take your credibility comments and shove them up, down or sideways in your orifice of choice.

In other words "I was wrong but can't admit it"

Wrong about what?

[ironbeard]

Are you still in primary school?

Posting some turd emojis and calling me a clown repeatedly isn't going to make me agree with you.

As I said, it clearly matters more to you than me.

According to your public posts, it clearly means more to you. Or, were you just being a “sneaky” little clown when you disparaged the credibility of the rankings if the vote did not go your way?

When has anyone ever been voted down the list before for knocking out a former belt holder?

Anyway, I'm bored of you now so I'll say that this is my last word on the matter. That will then allow you to get the last word as that seems really important to you.

Then we can both stop sh*tting all over this thread and stop boring everyone else.

Sure you are, clownshoes. That is what you said a page ago, but you just can’t quit me, can you?

[CMCanavessi]

No change. Fury 1, Wilder 4

[stpeach]

Question: How are the rankings affected by Tyson Fury's KO 11 win over Deontay Wilder?

My vote: Fury to #1, Wilder #3.

If we are voting on the other fights Helenius to #15 and Rivas is out

[margaret thatcher]

fury no change

wilder no change

[margaret thatcher]

btw, i dont really get the problem, if people before thought fury should be 2, and they still think he should be 2, then hell they should vote him to 2

there is no rule stating that this is forbidden or anything , its simply people voting where they think a guy should be rated

just because other ppl thought a fighter should be ranked differently, shouldnt force ppl to cave into the majority

[Kronkpride]

Fury #1 and Wilder #3.

Wilder cannot go any lower than that for me. He came close twice to putting out the man who is head and shoulders above everyone else. I don't think anybody can do better vs Fury than Wilder but Usyk needs to be found out before dropping down from #2. He is the little beast that could until Fury turns him into the little man who couldn't.

[Blodhemn]

Some posters were branding Usyk a pound-for-pound all-time .great after winning his first big heavyweight fight last week so not surprising they want him elevated. Doesn’t really matter since hopefully they’ll fight in the next year and it will be settled. I’d keep Fury #1 because I thought he was mostly in control Saturday against an ex-alphabet belt holder with a big punch who came to fight and I thought Fury’s performance, while flawed, was impressive. If they fight I will root for Usyk with my heart but Fury with my head

How is he not? Undisputed CW in the toughest era and handily beat the unified HW champion who had avenged his sole defeat.

Holyfield had a better legacy in both divisions. Dude has fought 19 times. Glad he won last week, really good fighter, one of my favorites. Too early to crown him the SRR and Duran of the upper weight classes after beating Joshua

At Cruiser? You are joking. Usyk's CW run is more substantial than Holyfield's. If Usyk did manage to beat Fury then he'd be above Holyfield in all-time status. Incredible possibility here.

[Blodhemn]

Fury #1
Wilder #8

Hunter has looked better than Wilder and deserves a spot above.

[mcrow24]

My rankings:

#1- Fury
#2- Usyk
#3- Wilder
#4- Joshua
#5- Whyte
#6- Ruiz
#7- Joyce
#9- Parker
#10- Hunter
#11- Sanchez
#12- Wallin
#13- Yanka
#14- Rivas
#15- Pulev

[Finkel]

My rankings:

#1- Fury
#2- Usyk
#3- Wilder
#4- Joshua
#5- Whyte
#6- Ruiz
#7- Joyce
#9- Parker
#10- Hunter
#11- Sanchez
#12- Wallin
#13- Yanka
#14- Rivas
#15- Pulev

You can only move around fighters involved in:
Fury v Wilder 3
Helenius v Kownacki 2
Sanchez v Ajagba

[Finkel]

Fury #1
Wilder #4
Fury looked overweight and slow footed and Wilder was completely gassed by the 6th, but that was one of the most entertaining heavyweight fights I’ve watched live, so I don’t want to punish either competitor by adjusting the rankings. Though in reality I can’t really separate Usyk and Fury for #1, though I would still lean toward Fury as he himself would lean all over Usyk.

Helenius #10
Kownacki – remains unranked.
I was still seeing in the run up to the fight a majority of fans were picking Kownacki to stop Helenius in the rematch. Now as I recall a lot of people were hyped on Kownacki, with ring magzine even going as far as ranking him in the top 10 before the first fight (not something I agreed with, but he had been making his way through Wilder’s resume). So, I think Helenius beating Kownacki twice (quite comfortably) has done enough to earn a spot on the periphery. That might well change when Wallin fights Whyte in a few weeks.

Sanchez - unranked (#16)
Ajagba – unranked
Whilst I wasn’t all that impressed with Sanchez who looked happy just avoid engaging for the final three rounds, he probably deserves to be ranked more than Oscar Rivas at this point, but I can't justify pushing out Otto Wallin as well. I will also say I saw Ajagba as a limited contender and I also wasn’t happy the ref let Sanchez's measured upper cut on a kneeling Ajagba go unpunished. I thought initially that the ref overruled the KD, but it seemed all three judges scored it a 10-8...

[Coachmanager]

Fury #1
Wilder #4
Helenius #unranked
Kownacki #unranked
Sánchez #15
Efe #unranked.

[KiwiRider]

Fury #1
Wilder #4
Helenius #unranked
Kownacki #unranked
Sánchez #15
Efe #unranked.

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Phew! This thread is spiky!