Haha, pretty close
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I reckon Jimmy Flint
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Waldron Ko'd Lennie McLean twice and Julius Francis too.
Also wasn't the Snatch film loosely based on Waldron KOing McLean?
Was Waldron a traveller?
Also wasn't the Snatch film loosely based on Waldron KOing McLean?
Was Waldron a traveller?
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Jimmy Flint is tall for a featherweight, taller than light-middleweight Batten. Flint could really whack but had the misfortune to be around at the same time as the brilliant Pat Cowdell, who stopped him in 11 rounds in a British title encounter. Flint, the Wapping Assassin, later dropped his hands and invited Steve "Sammy" Sims to hit him in the fourth round of a British title eliminator at the Albert Hall. Sims duly obliged and flattened the cocky Flint, who was a nasty piece of work but has kept his nose clean in retirement. Some men simply mellow. (John H. Stracey was another nasty piece of work but is wonderfully content today and doesn't look much different to the man who climbed off the floor to stop Cuban great Jose Napoles back in December 1975.)
Jimmy Batten won the British light-middleweight title in 1977 and retained with an easy four-round stoppage of Larry Paul, before walking through hell to see off second challenger Tony Poole in 13 brutal rounds. Jimmy needed a rest but the Cartel secured him a quick European title shot at Wembley against the seemingly beatable Gilbert Cohen of France. Jimmy really did need that rest: Cohen destroyed him in three rounds. (Cohen later lost his title to Marijan Benes, whose finishing barrage remains one of the most frightening ever seen in a boxing ring.)
John L. Gardner blew it against a bored, blubbery, broken Jimmy Young at Wembley in 1979. Victory for the Hackney fighter secures him a world title shot but he was floored and outpointed by a man who never got over his loss to Ken Norton on a 15-round split decision in Las Vegas in 1977. Gardner stayed with it and got another big fight against Mike Dokes in the States in 1982. However, Dokes had just discovered he could punch and he flattened John L. in four one-sided rounds (another finishing assault that rates as frightening.)
Magri won the British flyweight title in his third fight back in 1977 and was the best flyweight in the world in 1980, with wins over Santos Laciar and Alfonso Lopez. Sadly, the Cartel failed to move him at the right time and he was already past his best when he won the WBC title at Wembley in 1983 with a cuts stoppage of Eleoncio Mercedes of the Dominican Republic. To be honest, Mercedes deserved a rematch because the fight was still up for grabs at the seven-round stoppage. Instead, Magri defended against an obscure Filipino and was surprisingly stopped in six rounds. Charlie could whack but he needed to slow down and pick his shots more. That wasn't the Terry Lawless way.
Maurice Hope is a forgotten world champion but he made three impressive defences prior to a bad knockout at the hands of Wilfred Benitez. Hope later turned to training fighters and really brought on the likes of Prince Rodney, Hughroy Currie and Chris Christian when money problems forced him back to his native Antigua, which is a great shame. Big, bad Johnny Waldron won the Southern Area light-heavyweight title and loved a ruck but he didn't consign them all to the ring and wound up losing his boxing licence, after which he went in with various diamond geezers. Jim Watt was chasing his tail up in Glasgow under the management of Jim Murray but Lawless brought him down to London and made him a world champion and a world champion who kept his money. To see Watt at his very best, watch his four-round belting of Derry's Charlie Nash in March 1980 in Glasgow. Harry Mullan, another Derry man, burst into tears at the finish.
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Keep the old photos coming, I love seeing them.
I remember a guy at school asking me about boxing when I was about 11. He was a few years older and I only knew what I saw on TV. It blew my mind that were was more than one heavyweight champ. Anyway, what reminded me of that was that he showed me a pic of 9 boxers' mugshots in a mag, similar to the pic a few pages back and they all looked the same to me when he asked me to name them. I got Magri and Watt but he ridiculed me for not getting the others. It was that 70s hangover early 80s thing when everyone had that short Lewis Collins/East End wideboy haircut.
I keep meaning to do a photo quiz from the BBBoC yearbooks, there's some great haircuts in there.
I remember a guy at school asking me about boxing when I was about 11. He was a few years older and I only knew what I saw on TV. It blew my mind that were was more than one heavyweight champ. Anyway, what reminded me of that was that he showed me a pic of 9 boxers' mugshots in a mag, similar to the pic a few pages back and they all looked the same to me when he asked me to name them. I got Magri and Watt but he ridiculed me for not getting the others. It was that 70s hangover early 80s thing when everyone had that short Lewis Collins/East End wideboy haircut.
I keep meaning to do a photo quiz from the BBBoC yearbooks, there's some great haircuts in there.
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Three guys who played a part in the early success of FW
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Yes, Keith Wallace was a cracking fighter who won two ABA titles and boxed in the Moscow Olympics before signing with Warren. He continued to impress and really should have faced Charlie Magri in the early 1980s to decide the best flyweight in Europe (and one of the best in the world). It was a 'natural' and Warren offered Magri a huge purse in a full-page advert in Boxing News but incredibly, the Cartel were not swayed, so Warren set about embarrassing them. He brought over Kenya's world class Steve Muchoki. Wallace thumped him in nine rounds for the Commonwealth title. Next was Juan Diaz, a rugged Mexican who had stopped Magri. Wallace clearly outpointed him in a 10-rounder.
By 1983, promoter Warren had given up. He continued to aim high and secured Wallace a European title shot at stocky Frenchman Antoine Montero in London in September 1983. Both were unbeaten but Wallace had struggled with the scales and faded after a bright start, although southpaw Montero proved a strong, clever fighter and found the key to victory with body shots in round eight. That was it for Wallace in championship class. He tried his hand at bantamweight but was not as effective and lost at crucial times. His career finally ended with a defeat at the hands of Donnie Hood in 1990, by which time he and Warren were history. Keith died horribly early of cancer in 2000.
Noel Quarless, a Scouser like Wallace, scored of a couple of big wins under Warren against Anders Eklund and John L. Gardner in 1983 but lost every time he stepped up after that and was a bit of a fruitcake to be perfectly honest. He lacked the temperament to make it; Errol Christie lacked the resilience.
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bennie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2021, 06:42Jimmy Flint is tall for a featherweight, taller than light-middleweight Batten. Flint could really whack but had the misfortune to be around at the same time as the brilliant Pat Cowdell, who stopped him in 11 rounds in a British title encounter. Flint, the Wapping Assassin, later dropped his hands and invited Steve "Sammy" Sims to hit him in the fourth round of a British title eliminator at the Albert Hall. Sims duly obliged and flattened the cocky Flint, who was a nasty piece of work but has kept his nose clean in retirement. Some men simply mellow. (John H. Stracey was another nasty piece of work but is wonderfully content today and doesn't look much different to the man who climbed off the floor to stop Cuban great Jose Napoles back in December 1975.)
Jimmy Batten won the British light-middleweight title in 1977 and retained with an easy four-round stoppage of Larry Paul, before walking through hell to see off second challenger Tony Poole in 13 brutal rounds. Jimmy needed a rest but the Cartel secured him a quick European title shot at Wembley against the seemingly beatable Gilbert Cohen of France. Jimmy really did need that rest: Cohen destroyed him in three rounds. (Cohen later lost his title to Marijan Benes, whose finishing barrage remains one of the most frightening ever seen in a boxing ring.)
John L. Gardner blew it against a bored, blubbery, broken Jimmy Young at Wembley in 1979. Victory for the Hackney fighter secures him a world title shot but he was floored and outpointed by a man who never got over his loss to Ken Norton on a 15-round split decision in Las Vegas in 1977. Gardner stayed with it and got another big fight against Mike Dokes in the States in 1982. However, Dokes had just discovered he could punch and he flattened John L. in four one-sided rounds (another finishing assault that rates as frightening.)
Magri won the British flyweight title in his third fight back in 1977 and was the best flyweight in the world in 1980, with wins over Santos Laciar and Alfonso Lopez. Sadly, the Cartel failed to move him at the right time and he was already past his best when he won the WBC title at Wembley in 1983 with a cuts stoppage of Eleoncio Mercedes of the Dominican Republic. To be honest, Mercedes deserved a rematch because the fight was still up for grabs at the seven-round stoppage. Instead, Magri defended against an obscure Filipino and was surprisingly stopped in six rounds. Charlie could whack but he needed to slow down and pick his shots more. That wasn't the Terry Lawless way.
Maurice Hope is a forgotten world champion but he made three impressive defences prior to a bad knockout at the hands of Wilfred Benitez. Hope later turned to training fighters and really brought on the likes of Prince Rodney, Hughroy Currie and Chris Christian when money problems forced him back to his native Antigua, which is a great shame. Big, bad Johnny Waldron won the Southern Area light-heavyweight title and loved a ruck but he didn't consign them all to the ring and wound up losing his boxing licence, after which he went in with various diamond geezers. Jim Watt was chasing his tail up in Glasgow under the management of Jim Murray but Lawless brought him down to London and made him a world champion and a world champion who kept his money. To see Watt at his very best, watch his four-round belting of Derry's Charlie Nash in March 1980 in Glasgow. Harry Mullan, another Derry man, burst into tears at the finish.
Saw Jimmy flint on the fighters documentary. Looks like a right head case in it !
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When Jimmy Flint turned pro back in 1973, the man couldn't break an egg. He won his first seven fights on points and complained of breathing problems, so manager Terry Lawless arranged for him to undergo surgery on his nose. The transformation was incredible. Jimmy started banging everyone out and Boxing News called him, "The most exciting, dangerous one-punch hitter in Europe at the moment." Jimmy racked up 20 more wins, 18 of them inside the distance.high tower 1 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2021, 08:35bennie wrote: ↑22 Oct 2021, 06:42Jimmy Flint is tall for a featherweight, taller than light-middleweight Batten. Flint could really whack but had the misfortune to be around at the same time as the brilliant Pat Cowdell, who stopped him in 11 rounds in a British title encounter. Flint, the Wapping Assassin, later dropped his hands and invited Steve "Sammy" Sims to hit him in the fourth round of a British title eliminator at the Albert Hall. Sims duly obliged and flattened the cocky Flint, who was a nasty piece of work but has kept his nose clean in retirement. Some men simply mellow. (John H. Stracey was another nasty piece of work but is wonderfully content today and doesn't look much different to the man who climbed off the floor to stop Cuban great Jose Napoles back in December 1975.)
Jimmy Batten won the British light-middleweight title in 1977 and retained with an easy four-round stoppage of Larry Paul, before walking through hell to see off second challenger Tony Poole in 13 brutal rounds. Jimmy needed a rest but the Cartel secured him a quick European title shot at Wembley against the seemingly beatable Gilbert Cohen of France. Jimmy really did need that rest: Cohen destroyed him in three rounds. (Cohen later lost his title to Marijan Benes, whose finishing barrage remains one of the most frightening ever seen in a boxing ring.)
John L. Gardner blew it against a bored, blubbery, broken Jimmy Young at Wembley in 1979. Victory for the Hackney fighter secures him a world title shot but he was floored and outpointed by a man who never got over his loss to Ken Norton on a 15-round split decision in Las Vegas in 1977. Gardner stayed with it and got another big fight against Mike Dokes in the States in 1982. However, Dokes had just discovered he could punch and he flattened John L. in four one-sided rounds (another finishing assault that rates as frightening.)
Magri won the British flyweight title in his third fight back in 1977 and was the best flyweight in the world in 1980, with wins over Santos Laciar and Alfonso Lopez. Sadly, the Cartel failed to move him at the right time and he was already past his best when he won the WBC title at Wembley in 1983 with a cuts stoppage of Eleoncio Mercedes of the Dominican Republic. To be honest, Mercedes deserved a rematch because the fight was still up for grabs at the seven-round stoppage. Instead, Magri defended against an obscure Filipino and was surprisingly stopped in six rounds. Charlie could whack but he needed to slow down and pick his shots more. That wasn't the Terry Lawless way.
Maurice Hope is a forgotten world champion but he made three impressive defences prior to a bad knockout at the hands of Wilfred Benitez. Hope later turned to training fighters and really brought on the likes of Prince Rodney, Hughroy Currie and Chris Christian when money problems forced him back to his native Antigua, which is a great shame. Big, bad Johnny Waldron won the Southern Area light-heavyweight title and loved a ruck but he didn't consign them all to the ring and wound up losing his boxing licence, after which he went in with various diamond geezers. Jim Watt was chasing his tail up in Glasgow under the management of Jim Murray but Lawless brought him down to London and made him a world champion and a world champion who kept his money. To see Watt at his very best, watch his four-round belting of Derry's Charlie Nash in March 1980 in Glasgow. Harry Mullan, another Derry man, burst into tears at the finish.
Saw Jimmy flint on the fighters documentary. Looks like a right head case in it !