where does aj go if he loses again?
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margaret thatcher
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where does aj go if he loses again?
this may not even become a factor, if he wins the rematch
but curious what ppl think if he doesnt
who should he fight next after that? or should he call it a day in your view?
he's 31, so still fairly youngish, in that fury, wilder, whyte, usyk, joyce, lovejoy and a lot of the higher ranked guys are older than him
but curious what ppl think if he doesnt
who should he fight next after that? or should he call it a day in your view?
he's 31, so still fairly youngish, in that fury, wilder, whyte, usyk, joyce, lovejoy and a lot of the higher ranked guys are older than him
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Baby Miller grudge match will sell
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Wee Tommy
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Most very good fighters aim to win a world title and retire rich. Maybe he could do that. Be the best thing for him.
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Win or loose there is plenty of good fights out there if he chooses to continue. He may not be the most polished fighter but I think the division is better with him amongst it.
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I think he’ll pack it in if he looses the rematch, and I’d be surprised if he didn’t.
Of course he’s young for a heavyweight but he’s made an absolute fortune and is hardly in need of the money - you’d think.
His commercial value is also based on him being a winner / wreaking ball - take that away and although it won’t disappear, it’ll take a huge hit.
I’ll be fairly surprised if Wilder doesn’t retire within the next 12 months and I can’t see him facing a top 5 guy in that time. I also think that if Joshua has lost three of his last five it’ll be impossible to make the Fury fight - too much money will have fallen off the table in terms of commercial value and Joshua would have to swallow a greatly reduced B-side, which I just cannae see happening.
Who else is there to fight? Whyte (to me) looks like he is mentally ready to cash out and walk away so if he does fight Fury I think he’ll walk himself after.
Make it break for Joshua’s career this one in my opinion
Of course he’s young for a heavyweight but he’s made an absolute fortune and is hardly in need of the money - you’d think.
His commercial value is also based on him being a winner / wreaking ball - take that away and although it won’t disappear, it’ll take a huge hit.
I’ll be fairly surprised if Wilder doesn’t retire within the next 12 months and I can’t see him facing a top 5 guy in that time. I also think that if Joshua has lost three of his last five it’ll be impossible to make the Fury fight - too much money will have fallen off the table in terms of commercial value and Joshua would have to swallow a greatly reduced B-side, which I just cannae see happening.
Who else is there to fight? Whyte (to me) looks like he is mentally ready to cash out and walk away so if he does fight Fury I think he’ll walk himself after.
Make it break for Joshua’s career this one in my opinion
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
He’ll be done
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
He will cash in on a Fury fight if he loses again to Usyk.
Then when he loses the Fury fight he'd retire.
Only the Fury fight pays him enough to forget about legacy.
Retiring after another Usyk loss leaves a lot of easy money on the table.
Then when he loses the Fury fight he'd retire.
Only the Fury fight pays him enough to forget about legacy.
Retiring after another Usyk loss leaves a lot of easy money on the table.
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gregregegg
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Hard to say. Could just wing it it with wilder or fury, but then risking 3 losses in a row here.
Could see him fighting whyte. The medium risk medium reward option.
I personaly think if he loses again in march he should take enough time to let the brain recover Then go the levle bellow and bury the losses while getting used to a new trainer, 4 or 5 fights a couple of months apart against guys like trev bryan or even Cassius Chaney. Get 4 or 5 highlight KOs while your at it. Then pick your plan of attack. But this will never happen.
Could see him fighting whyte. The medium risk medium reward option.
I personaly think if he loses again in march he should take enough time to let the brain recover Then go the levle bellow and bury the losses while getting used to a new trainer, 4 or 5 fights a couple of months apart against guys like trev bryan or even Cassius Chaney. Get 4 or 5 highlight KOs while your at it. Then pick your plan of attack. But this will never happen.
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Back to his sofa made of 50 quid notes, I guess, and fair play to him
Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
He'll have a lot of opportunities even out of the championship competition, because big fights can be made without titles. The modern boxing policy is just foulish enough to accept this obvious thing.
There are a lot of matchups of Joshua, that can sell:
- Wilder. A 50/50 bout for the Bronze, it has some history of negotiations.
- Miller. Had some beef and history, will have even more beef.
- Dubois. Two big bangers fighting each other will always sell.
- Hrgovic. Both will have nothing to lose, as Hrgovic is being mismanaged and we assume that Joshua loses the rematch vs Usyk.
- Hunter. He's often in fun fights.
- Ruiz III. The rubber match. Another HW trilogy gotta sell after Fury-Wilder.
- Ortiz. Another intriguing fight of those, who don't have anything to lose (although Ortiz behaves like he doesn't understand that he has nothing to lose).
All of that stuff gotta be interesting. We can also put Joyce into consideration, but probably he's go for a shot, if Fury-Usyk doesn't get made after Usyk-Joshua II.
There are a lot of matchups of Joshua, that can sell:
- Wilder. A 50/50 bout for the Bronze, it has some history of negotiations.
- Miller. Had some beef and history, will have even more beef.
- Dubois. Two big bangers fighting each other will always sell.
- Hrgovic. Both will have nothing to lose, as Hrgovic is being mismanaged and we assume that Joshua loses the rematch vs Usyk.
- Hunter. He's often in fun fights.
- Ruiz III. The rubber match. Another HW trilogy gotta sell after Fury-Wilder.
- Ortiz. Another intriguing fight of those, who don't have anything to lose (although Ortiz behaves like he doesn't understand that he has nothing to lose).
All of that stuff gotta be interesting. We can also put Joyce into consideration, but probably he's go for a shot, if Fury-Usyk doesn't get made after Usyk-Joshua II.
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I’m a celeb... question of sport... graham Norton... the worlds his oyster
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danconnollyeire
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
He should retire in all honesty... he's made amazing money and he's unlikely to get a shot again, unless Fury beats Usyk, retires and scrambles the belts
Maybe one last fight with Whyte in Wembley then retire?
Maybe one last fight with Whyte in Wembley then retire?
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danconnollyeire
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
No one will want to watch Ruiz-AJ 3DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 02:40 He'll have a lot of opportunities even out of the championship competition, because big fights can be made without titles. The modern boxing policy is just foulish enough to accept this obvious thing.
There are a lot of matchups of Joshua, that can sell:
- Wilder. A 50/50 bout for the Bronze, it has some history of negotiations.
- Miller. Had some beef and history, will have even more beef.
- Dubois. Two big bangers fighting each other will always sell.
- Hrgovic. Both will have nothing to lose, as Hrgovic is being mismanaged and we assume that Joshua loses the rematch vs Usyk.
- Hunter. He's often in fun fights.
- Ruiz III. The rubber match. Another HW trilogy gotta sell after Fury-Wilder.
- Ortiz. Another intriguing fight of those, who don't have anything to lose (although Ortiz behaves like he doesn't understand that he has nothing to lose).
All of that stuff gotta be interesting. We can also put Joyce into consideration, but probably he's go for a shot, if Fury-Usyk doesn't get made after Usyk-Joshua II.
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Correct. Nor Ortiz.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 04:56No one will want to watch Ruiz-AJ 3DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 02:40 He'll have a lot of opportunities even out of the championship competition, because big fights can be made without titles. The modern boxing policy is just foulish enough to accept this obvious thing.
There are a lot of matchups of Joshua, that can sell:
- Wilder. A 50/50 bout for the Bronze, it has some history of negotiations.
- Miller. Had some beef and history, will have even more beef.
- Dubois. Two big bangers fighting each other will always sell.
- Hrgovic. Both will have nothing to lose, as Hrgovic is being mismanaged and we assume that Joshua loses the rematch vs Usyk.
- Hunter. He's often in fun fights.
- Ruiz III. The rubber match. Another HW trilogy gotta sell after Fury-Wilder.
- Ortiz. Another intriguing fight of those, who don't have anything to lose (although Ortiz behaves like he doesn't understand that he has nothing to lose).
All of that stuff gotta be interesting. We can also put Joyce into consideration, but probably he's go for a shot, if Fury-Usyk doesn't get made after Usyk-Joshua II.
I’m not disputing many in the list above might be worth a watch, but there is zero chance of at least half of them ever happening
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splashitallover
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Joshua V Big (Ped)Baby Miller for the vacant IBA, WBF, IBC, WBU Unified, Undisputed title could be fun!
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Need a standby opponent for when Miller gets done by a drug test a week or so before the fightsplashitallover wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 06:44 Joshua V Big (Ped)Baby Miller for the vacant IBA, WBF, IBC, WBU Unified, Undisputed title could be fun!
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polecateddy
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
I think it’s questionable if Joshua wins a fight again unless he’s given a tomato can. 4-5 straight loses and retirement.
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Nightmare Roy
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
I think he'll knock it on the head or maybe a big winnable send off type fight against Whyte at Wembley, although I think Whyte will have a much better chance if they fought again. I can't see him beating usyk at all to be honest, this wont be like the Ruiz fight where he goes off getting fat for 6 months, he's basically a Spartan.
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JamesPhilips
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
Goes on the Graham Norton show and comes out of the closet. ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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bigjack
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
depends on how much of a paycut he's expected to take i'd imagine
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forcefraser
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
It depends on how he loses. If he goes down guns blazing then may carry on, as that in itself will be a form of redemption.
If he loses a weak effort on points, without going balls out, then he is finished.
No one wants to see a 6ft 6 muscle bound bloke fighting scared
If he loses a weak effort on points, without going balls out, then he is finished.
No one wants to see a 6ft 6 muscle bound bloke fighting scared
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He can retire a rich man but there will also be big fights for him to chase.
Fury being the obvious one but AJ will still be ome of the big draws whoever he fights.
Fury being the obvious one but AJ will still be ome of the big draws whoever he fights.
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mickey1975
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Re: where does aj go if he loses again?
They wouldn't dream of taking less than 50%, which I wouldn't give them. He's done. Surely even the casuals are sick of him and his crappy lynx advert. As soon as I saw him on fight night, waving his lucozade, pretending to listen to music on those daft headphones, I knew he was in too deep. The brand has finished him off. Stay humble.