If Plant upsets Canelo, it will be a big shock for you ? Plant looks in very good shape and he's coming to win

[apollo creed]

Total rambling nonsense from a guy who clearly doesnt have a clue

yeah, eo is talking like a delusional parrot

[HomicideHenry]

That man isn't going to win. Canelo's gonna screw him up. Plant about crapped his pants when he was rag dolled across the podium. All he's going to get is a great payday.

[Bandog]

I'm beginning to wonder if Clenelo is too damn dumb to learn english. He couldn't even understand the insults from Plant.

[apollo creed]

Well, realistially speaking Plant is in a win-win situation. He gets a big payday and if he looks ok vs Canelo, he'd get other good fights too..

[emallini]

I can see Plant being elusive and popping that jab out but will he be landing clean shots to impress the judges in each round? Canelo solid high guard and head movement.

[apollo creed]

I can see Plant being elusive and popping that jab out but will he be landing clean shots to impress the judges in each round? Canelo solid high guard and head movement.

Canelo has a very good defense.

[AngryGoon38]

I would break it down like this:

Speed: Plant
Height: Plant
Reach: Plant
Strength: Plant
Power: Canelo
Experience: Canelo

If Canelo can't land that big bomb like he did on Saunders he's in trouble.

Caleb Plant WILL win 7 possibly even 8 rounds in this contest. He'll deserve the UD but he wont get it.

The corruption crew will attempt to make it look closer but they'll have no choice but to give CP the SD and the full champ collection, as it were.

Nah,they would rule it a draw,at best,in that scenario.
Plant will need to keep Canelo from winning more than 2 rounds in
Order to be awarded a decision victory.

[Enlightened-One]

I don't know why but I think Plant would surprise us with his boxing skills and with his conditioning.

Boxing is known as the “theatre of the unexpected” for a reason, because upsets happen – “that's why they fight the fights!”

Even though Caleb Plant is a world-class operator, he deserves to be considered a big underdog, because his resume is very weak in comparison to Canelo’s.

I think I’d be surprised, rather than “shocked”, to see Plant scoring the upset.

The betting odds for the Canelo-Plant bout are similar to the Pacquiao-Ugas fight.

The betting websites give Plant a slightly better chance to beat Canelo than they gave Chavez Jr.

Personally-speaking, even if Plant beats Canelo, I reckon Yordenis Ugas' victory over Manny Pacquiao would still be favoured to be awarded the upset of the year.

Nah EO. Come on now. Putting odds aside, which obviously helps my point and may be unfair to do in this case, but if Plant is to defeat Canelo then we are talking about an enormous upset unlike we’ve seen since Tyson/Buster.

Or maybe Lewis/Rahman would be a better example. My point is that we’re talking about THE top dog in Boxing. Think about the last 20-30 years and who the P4P guys were. I can’t really come up with an instance in which the top guy lost vs. a solid quality contender. I think that if it should happen, it will clearly be upset of the year and possibly the last decade.

With that said, Plant’s in for a rough night. Unless he’s got the heart of a Lion, Plant just finishing the night on his feet will be very surprising to me. It’s just too much to ask.

So we agree that Caleb Plant beating Canelo would be a significant upset.

But from purely a betting odds perspective, do you think it would technically be a bigger upset than the likes of:

• James Martin vs. Vito Mielnicki
• Sandor Martin vs. Mikey Garcia
• Kenneth Sims Jr. vs. Elvis Rodriguez
• Mauricio Lara vs. Josh Warrington
• Jonathan Rice vs. Michael Coffie
• Jason Cunningham vs. Gamal Yafai

I mean, we’re not talking about opinions here, instead we’re solely focussed on the mathematical betting odds (from simply a numerical value perspective i.e. which numbers are bigger).

The point I’m making is that (based on betting odds) Caleb Plant beating Canelo wouldn’t even be considered the biggest upset of 2021, let alone being regarded as one of the greatest upsets to have ever happened during the entire course of boxing history!

Of course, you’re entitled to disagree, but in order to do that, you’d need to perform some research and find a betting website citing odds that wholly endorses your claims.

But if you can’t, then you really should concede the factual accuracy of my words.

[KiwiRider]

“I promised myself that I was going to run this all the way to the top, with no problem crashing and burning along the way. I set out to live an unbelievable life and accomplish unbelievable things. Those people who doubt me are the very reason that I’m here.”
Caleb Plant.

Sounds like the words of a man already at terms with a loss...

[oogiebe]

“I promised myself that I was going to run this all the way to the top, with no problem crashing and burning along the way. I set out to live an unbelievable life and accomplish unbelievable things. Those people who doubt me are the very reason that I’m here.”
Caleb Plant.

Sounds like the words of a man already at terms with a loss...

[apollo creed]

Another smart thing from Canelo is that he was adamant to fight on SHO and not FOX!

[Enlightened-One]

Another smart thing from Canelo is that he was adamant to fight on SHO and not FOX!

Where did you read that?

I can't find anything about Canelo insisting on competing on Showtime rather than Fox.

[apollo creed]

Another smart thing from Canelo is that he was adamant to fight on SHO and not FOX!

Where did you read that?

I can't find anything about Canelo insisting on competing on Showtime rather than Fox.

I don't remember the site but I thought that it was a smart move. It should be there on internet.

[Enlightened-One]

Another smart thing from Canelo is that he was adamant to fight on SHO and not FOX!

Where did you read that?

I can't find anything about Canelo insisting on competing on Showtime rather than Fox.

I don't remember the site but I thought that it was a smart move. It should be there on internet.

It's not.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Height and reach arent relevant when there is a skill gap

See: callum smith

[Enlightened-One]

Height and reach arent relevant when there is a skill gap

See: callum smith

Overly-simplistic, but I generally agree.

Height and reach are relevant, even when there’s a skill gap, if the bigger competitor knows how to use their size and is also significantly more athletic (speed, strength, power, stamina etc.) than the smaller more skilful fighter.

Apart from skeletal size, I feel that Canelo is more superior than Caleb Plant in every single way.

[cormack]

it would be a huge shock frankly , saw him vs truax and he couldnt put him away .
he would have to KO canelo anyway as there seems to be chance of anyone getting a decision .

[Enlightened-One]

he would have to KO canelo anyway as there seems to be chance of anyone getting a decision .

Do you feel that Canelo regularly “loses” rounds, but the judges always disagree, by wrongly awarding them to Canelo?

In my opinion, the judges scorecards have been reasonable scored for the last four years or so.

[margaret thatcher]

callum smith has never boxed below smw and is now a lhw, his first 3 fights were 169, 180, 170. plants were 159, 160, 161. he definitely had the size but not the ability to do much vs canelli

[margaret thatcher]

he ended his amateur career boxing internationally at 81kg - 178 pounds

he's taller than plant, has a longer reach than plant, and has been no lighter than smw as a pro, unlike plant. he's got plenty of size mate, just didn't have the ability needed

[margaret thatcher]

well if you're talking when they started boxing, caleb plant was an 8 year old, so im sure he was even lighter than ww

callum smith is 6'3, has a 78 inch reach, ended his am career as a light heavy, and has never weighed below smw as a pro. he's got plenty of size mate

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Height and reach arent relevant when there is a skill gap

See: callum smith

Ya and luckily in this case there's not a skill gap at all. In fact not only does Plant have the physical advantages he's also faster and definitely has the better technical skillset.

What you REALLY meant to say is that there's a significant EXPERIENCE-gap which is the obvious difference between the two.

Also dont even bring Smith into the conversation. He started out as a WW along with BJS. Those guy arent real SMW's like CP.

BJS doesnt have a single win again a career SMW, including Lee. Caleb Plant started out as a LHW in the am's and has fought SMW's his entire career. There's zero comparison to be made but lets just let your statement speak for itself once things play out.

No i mean skill. Canelos accuracy with counters will dominate plant.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

well if you're talking when they started boxing, caleb plant was an 8 year old, so im sure he was even lighter than ww

callum smith is 6'3, has a 78 inch reach, ended his am career as a light heavy, and has never weighed below smw as a pro. he's got plenty of size mate

He has a good jab too that canelo completely took away.

I hope plant is as good as some people think. I hope he makes a great fight

[margaret thatcher]

ya i agree

[margaret thatcher]

smith finished his am career boxing at an elite level internationally as a lhw my man, he was a welterweight as a growing teenager. he didnt fight canelo as a f@cking 15 year old

a size head to head basically plays out

height? smith
reach? smith
weight? smith

plant's been as low as 159 and no higher than 168. taller, longer cal's never been below 166 and been up to 180, now boxing as a light heavy.