Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

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Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 23:46 bivol, canelo, bjs, kovalev, plant, wives, couches, bruhs :yay:
Got it!
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Kovalev was washed up, old , fought Canelo on short notice but he had a title, so Canelo capitalized on. Smart move.

BJS had a strap at 168 but he only fought bums @ 168.

Imo Beterbiev, if he beats Browne, should fight Bivol, Joe Smith or Zurdo Ramirez to rise his status more. Same with Bivol.

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apollo creed wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 06:18 Kovalev was washed up, old , fought Canelo on short notice but he had a title, so Canelo capitalized on. Smart move.
The fight wasn't at short-notice.

The fight was being talked about eight months before it happened. Contract negotiations began two months prior to the Yarde fight.

And the entire boxing world (except for you) knew that Kovalev would be facing Canelo if he defeated Anthony Yarde.
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lol , son, what a disingenuous troll you are:

“I was tired after round six, because I had my last fight very close to this one, but it’s okay, it’s a new experience for me, I didn’t recover from my last fight. But it’s okay. ” said Kovalev

Kovalev was in rush but money was too damn good!
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apollo creed wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 06:58 lol , son, what a disingenuous troll you are:

“I was tired after round six, because I had my last fight very close to this one, but it’s okay, it’s a new experience for me, I didn’t recover from my last fight. But it’s okay. ” said Kovalev

Kovalev was in rush but money was too damn good!
You accused Kovalev of taking the Canelo bout at short-notice.

Discussions began eight months prior and terms were agreed roughly three months later.

Kovalev chose to maintain a busy fighting schedule:

Asked whether they considered asking Yarder to wait, Kathy Duva concluded (July 2019). “No, there were never any talks of putting off the Yarde fight if a September fight between Sergey and Canelo was to materialize.

Sergey wants to stay active so later in the year could work.
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Kov was probably weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause, versus Canelo.
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:21 Kov was probably weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause, versus Canelo.
"SERGEY KOVALEV manager Egis Kilmas NOT surprised CANELO didn't ask for rehydration clause!"
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:23
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:21 Kov was probably weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause, versus Canelo.
"SERGEY KOVALEV manager Egis Kilmas NOT surprised CANELO didn't ask for rehydration clause!"
Sorry, the video's not playing on my phone. Can you do me a favour please buddy and quote what's said in it regarding the rehydration clause? Thanx
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:31 :maybe: 🤐 :OhYes: :yay:
OK, I'll bite.

What was the terms of the rehydration clause and who confirmed its existence? :roll:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:14
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:31 :maybe: 🤐 :OhYes: :yay:
OK, I'll bite.

What was the terms of the rehydration clause and who confirmed its existence? :roll:
Don't be rude now. Can you please answer my previous question first? You very good at quoting directly from the Mayweather fingernails video the other day, so this one shouldn't be a problem, no? :TU:
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:23
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:14
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:31 :maybe: 🤐 :OhYes: :yay:
OK, I'll bite.

What was the terms of the rehydration clause and who confirmed its existence? :roll:
Don't be rude now. Can you please answer my previous question first?
Let's also forget about the lack of credible sources confirming the existence of the rehydration clause... so you don't even need to perform any research and cite evidence.

What was Kovalev's maximum rehydration weight for the Canelo fight?

If you feel it exists, you must surely know the terms of the rehydration clause, especially if you claim Krusher was weakened because of it!
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:29
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:23
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:14
OK, I'll bite.

What was the terms of the rehydration clause and who confirmed its existence? :roll:
Don't be rude now. Can you please answer my previous question first? You very good at quoting directly from the Mayweather fingernails video the other day, so this one shouldn't be a problem, no? :TU:
My video has already answered your question.

OK, I'll make it easier on you.

Let's also forget about the lack of credible sources confirming the existence of the rehydration clause... so you don't even need to perform any research and cite evidence.

What was Kovalev's maximum rehydration weight for the Canelo fight?

If you feel it exists, you must surely know the terms of the rehydration clause, especially if you claim Krusher was weakened because of it!
I can't see the video on my phone buddy, hence the request for you to please quote the words. So you haven't answered my question yet. I bet I know why! :OhYes: :yay:
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Post by Enlightened-One »

The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:32
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:29
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:23

Don't be rude now. Can you please answer my previous question first? You very good at quoting directly from the Mayweather fingernails video the other day, so this one shouldn't be a problem, no? :TU:
My video has already answered your question.

OK, I'll make it easier on you.

Let's also forget about the lack of credible sources confirming the existence of the rehydration clause... so you don't even need to perform any research and cite evidence.

What was Kovalev's maximum rehydration weight for the Canelo fight?

If you feel it exists, you must surely know the terms of the rehydration clause, especially if you claim Krusher was weakened because of it!
I can't see the video on my phone buddy, hence the request for you to please quote the words. So you haven't answered my question yet. I bet I know why! :OhYes: :yay:
Forget about the video!

You claimed that Canelo insisted that Kovalev sign a rehydration clause.

You also claimed that Krusher was "weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause".

What was its terms? What is a 10lbs limit? 12lbs limit? 15lbs limit?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:36
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:32
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:29
My video has already answered your question.

OK, I'll make it easier on you.

Let's also forget about the lack of credible sources confirming the existence of the rehydration clause... so you don't even need to perform any research and cite evidence.

What was Kovalev's maximum rehydration weight for the Canelo fight?

If you feel it exists, you must surely know the terms of the rehydration clause, especially if you claim Krusher was weakened because of it!
I can't see the video on my phone buddy, hence the request for you to please quote the words. So you haven't answered my question yet. I bet I know why! :OhYes: :yay:
Forget about the video!

You claimed that Canelo insisted that Kovalev sign a rehydration clause.

You also claimed that Krusher was "weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause".

What was its terms? What is a 10lbs limit? 12lbs limit? 15lbs limit?
Still unable to quote? Are you only able to do direct quotes from videos that don't backfire and mess up your false claims? OK, no worries.

Just a guess here but I'm thinking the reason you're not quoting is because you've once again posted up that video with the misleading title and Egis Klimas being asked about the rehydration clause and he replies (direct quote) "Aeeei..it's...you know..it's it's...they..I don't know..ww..wwww.."?
If it is then, woohooooo! I win again! :box: 🏆🥇🥳
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:43
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:36
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:32

I can't see the video on my phone buddy, hence the request for you to please quote the words. So you haven't answered my question yet. I bet I know why! :OhYes: :yay:
Forget about the video!

You claimed that Canelo insisted that Kovalev sign a rehydration clause.

You also claimed that Krusher was "weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause".

What was its terms? What is a 10lbs limit? 12lbs limit? 15lbs limit?
Still unable to quote? Are you only able to do direct quotes from videos that don't backfire and mess up your false claims? OK, no worries.

Just a guess here but I'm thinking the reason you're not quoting is because you've once again posted up that video with the misleading title and Egis Klimas being asked about the rehydration clause and he replies (direct quote) "Aeeei..it's...you know..it's it's...they..I don't know..ww..wwww.."?
If it is then, woohooooo! I win again! :box: 🏆🥇🥳
I provided a video, which you've seen before.

You claimed the Canelo-Kovalev bout included a rehydration clause, which weakened Krusher.

Why won't you quote its terms? Is it because you realise it either doesn't exist or that it couldn't have affected Kovalev?

It's OK for you to be wrong sometimes.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:53
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:43
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:36
Forget about the video!

You claimed that Canelo insisted that Kovalev sign a rehydration clause.

You also claimed that Krusher was "weakened by the weight stipulations ie rehydration clause".

What was its terms? What is a 10lbs limit? 12lbs limit? 15lbs limit?
Still unable to quote? Are you only able to do direct quotes from videos that don't backfire and mess up your false claims? OK, no worries.

Just a guess here but I'm thinking the reason you're not quoting is because you've once again posted up that video with the misleading title and Egis Klimas being asked about the rehydration clause and he replies (direct quote) "Aeeei..it's...you know..it's it's...they..I don't know..ww..wwww.."?
If it is then, woohooooo! I win again! :box: 🏆🥇🥳
I provided a video, which you've seen before.

You claimed the Canelo-Kovalev bout included a rehydration clause, which weakened Krusher.

Why won't you quote its terms? Is it because you realise it either doesn't exist or that it couldn't have affected Kovalev?

It's OK for you to be wrong sometimes.
You've still not answered.

Woohooooo!:box: 🏆🥇🥳
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Kovalev engaged in seventeen world title bouts, nine of them were for the IBF strap, and we don’t know Krusher’s rehydration weights for three of Sergey’s bouts (Canelo, Shabranskyy and Cleverly).

Kovelev’s rehydration weights for the three bouts immediately preceding the Canelo fight were less than 185lbs.

Therefore, who confirmed the existence of the rehydration clause for the Canelo-Kovalev bout and (if we pretend one existed) what was Sergey’s maximum allowable rehydration weight?
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 09:00 :box: 🏆🥇🥳
So you can't prove that there was a rehydration clause for the Canelo-Kovalev bout.

And even if we pretend one existed, you don't have any proof that it adversely affected him, since he usually entered the ring weighing less than 185lbs come fight night.



Buddy McGirt also told The RING that wasn't aware of any rehydration clause.

But apparently you feel we should ignore Kovalev's manager and trainer?
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 09:05 Still no quoting.

:box: 🏆🥇🥳
I'm not transcribing a video I've already posted, which you've already watched.

F@ck off!

You won't even answer one simple question, so I'm not going out of my way for you.
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How rude!

Woohoooo!!
And still.....:box: 🏆🥇🥳
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:23
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 08:14
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 07:31 :maybe: 🤐 :OhYes: :yay:
OK, I'll bite.

What was the terms of the rehydration clause and who confirmed its existence? :roll:
Don't be rude now. Can you please answer my previous question first? You very good at quoting directly from the Mayweather fingernails video the other day, so this one shouldn't be a problem, no? :TU:
Yeah, EO should provide the quote or he is a tosser ! :TU: :OhYes:
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