Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 20 Nov 2021, 10:34

Andrade - Decision
13
42%
Andrade - T/KO
9
29%
DRAW
3
10%
Quigley - T/KO
3
10%
Quigley - Decision
3
10%
 
Total votes: 31

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Oct 2021, 10:21 One of the greatest fighters of our era getting robbed of his prime like this,it's truly sad...

Don't @ me..
He's made his bed and now he has to lie in it.

He received numerous opportunities and rejected them.

I think he's burned bridges with the PBC, since he previously refused to face four of them.
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andrade and luis ortiz were made for each other, they should become lovers, imagine the erotic thrill bandog would get
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apollo creed wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 04:02I think Benavidez or Chenko would not duck/decline Andrade.
Demetrius Andrade rejected opportunities to fight four PBC fighters (i.e. Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Both fighters you've mentioned, David Benavidez and Sergiy Derevyanchenko, are aligned with the PBC, with Andrade previously refusing to face the sturdy Ukrainian.

And Demetrius hasn't even mentioned Benavidez's name.

Personally speaking, the PBC has already provided Andrade with numerous opportunities to engage in meaningful marquee bouts, but Demetrius has rejected every single one of them.

I suspect he's been blacklisted by Al Haymon, because of his previous actions.

And let's not ignore the elephant in the room, shall we? Even Eddie Hearn refuses to orchestrate bouts for Andrade with any of his fellow Matchroom stablemates!

Every single time I mention that important point, people go silent! They refuse to address it and keep trying to discuss something else.

Even you won't discuss this point!!! :TU:
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By the time he enters the ring for his next outing on the 20th November, Demetrius Andrade would have faced the following opponents during the previous eight years:

• Brian Rose
• Dario Fabian Pucheta
• Willie Nelson
• Jack Culcay
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Artur Akavov
• Maciej Sulecki
• Luke Keeler
• Liam Williams
• Jason Quigley

What an awesome resume! A real world-beater! A dead-cert first-ballot Hall-of-Famer! :yay:
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Was Culkay his last fight with with Star boxing?

Was Andrade ever aligned with PBC?

The only good thing is that he’s been active.

That’s literally it.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 04:52Was Andrade ever aligned with PBC?

The only good thing is that he’s been active.

That’s literally it.
Ten fights in eight years is inactive. Very inactive. Even the injury prone Billy Joe Saunders has been busier.

Andrade as never been aligned with the PBC.

He was offered a three-fight contract with Showtime, which would have aligned him with Al Haymon, with Jermell Charlo being the first bout of that deal, but he rejected it to join Roc Nation's stable.

So when Boo Boo ducked Jermell Charlo, he not only walked away from a deal with Showtime, but it resulted in him being stripped of his title due to inactivity and also being in the wilderness by facing journeymen for a few years afterwards.

Demetrius Andrade has received five opportunities to face four big-name PBC fighters but rejected every offer he received.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 05:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 04:52Was Andrade ever aligned with PBC?

The only good thing is that he’s been active.

That’s literally it.
Ten fights in eight years is inactive. Very inactive. Even the injury prone Billy Joe Saunders has been busier.
I meant since going with DAZN. He may not have fought the top guys, but he’s fighting. And he’s been more active during the pandemic than most.

It’s kinda like when Tevin was champion. Hearn had him out like 2-3 times a year..

Probably because he had no one else.
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Andrade vs Eubank Jr ?
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2021-11-19 Jason Quigley
2021-04-17 Liam Williams

2020-01-30 Luke Keeler
2019-06-29 Maciej Sulecki
2019-01-18 Artur Akavov

2018-10-20 Walter Kautondokwa

His resume is similar in terms of low opposition with BJS's resume @ 168.
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apollo creed wrote: 05 Oct 2021, 05:48 2021-11-19 Jason Quigley
2021-04-17 Liam Williams

2020-01-30 Luke Keeler
2019-06-29 Maciej Sulecki
2019-01-18 Artur Akavov

2018-10-20 Walter Kautondokwa

His resume is similar in terms of low opposition with BJS's resume @ 168.
Billy Joe Saunders' top-ten highest-rated opponents (BoxRec):

• Saul Alvarez
• David Lemieux
• Chris Eubank Jr.
• Willie Monroe Jr.
• Andy Lee
• Martin Murray
• John Ryder
• Marcelo Esteban Coceres
• Gary O'Sullivan
• Nick Blackwell

Demetrius Andrade's top-ten highest-rated opponents (BoxRec):

• Vanes Martirosyan
• Maciej Sulecki
• Liam Williams
• Jack Culcay
• Willie Nelson
• Luke Keeler
• Walter Kautondokwa
• Alantez Fox
• Brian Rose
• Artur Akavov

Who has faced better opposition – Andrade or Saunders?

Saunders has had failed negotiations or had fights fallen through with the likes of Andy Lee (due to injury) Canelo Alvarez (twice), Gennady Golovkin (twice) Avtandil Khurtsidze (imprisonment), Gabriel Rosado (contractual), Chris Eubank Jr. (declined rematch) and even David Lemieux previously claimed that he was disinterested in facing the Brit (claiming he had bigger fish to fry, even though he was the mandatory).

Even Demetrius Andrade once admitted that wasn’t ready to face Billy Joe Saunders yet.

None of those situations were caused by Saunders.

Demetrius Andrade also rejected opportunities to fight four PBC fighters (i.e. Jermell Charlo [twice], Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

Is Demetrius Andrade’s entire legacy defined by the fact Jermall Charlo once declined an offer from Matchroom? Surely this can't be the only element of your counter-argument?
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Tickets are on sale now for the blockbuster World title quadruple-header led by Demetrius Andrade defending his WBO World Middleweight title against Jason Quigley at the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire, on Friday, December 19, live worldwide on DAZN.

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Andrade is daring to be great! He's taking all the future HOF'ers!

I'd like to see Andrade facing next Juan Macias Montiel and Hugo Centeno Jr. This MW division is full of great matches! :box:
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apollo creed wrote: 08 Oct 2021, 11:24I'd like to see Andrade facing next Juan Macias Montiel and Hugo Centeno Jr.
Andrade would probably face tougher challenges facing the likes of Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Matt Korobov. :TU:

Oh, I forgot! Demetrius ducked both of those guys, who were both beaten by Jermall Charlo! :yay:
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Son, Andrade has lots of good name options that I'd like to see him fighting like:

Lara, Liam Smith, Trout, Jarrett Hurd, Julian Williams and Tony Harrison

Imagine how shiny would look his resume with wins over these names!
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Jason Quigley Ireland Press Conference Quotes & Photos

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/docw5kc7bi5m ... TDxda?dl=0

Jason Quigley (19-1, 14KOs) hosted a press conference in Ireland ahead of his 12-round middleweight fight against Demetrius Andrade (30-0, 18KOs) for the WBO World Middleweight title at the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire on Friday November 19, live worldwide on DAZN.


Below is what the fighter had to say about his upcoming event:

“He needs fights and the big guns are avoiding him. I’ll happily step in and bring that title back to Ireland.

“I’m at the perfect stage in my life and my career to deal with this situation. I’m not the young kid now living for the whole excitement of fighting for a world title

“This is just another fight and I training my absolute ass off in the gym to get that W (win). To get that W will mean so much in this fight than in any other fight.

“I know that I can bring stuff to the table that is going to upset him, make him see things that he’s not always seen inside the ring.

“I honestly believe the Irish fans will outweigh his fans come fight night 100 percent.”

Andrade vs. Quigley, is a 12-round fight for the WBO World Middleweight Championship presented by Matchroom Boxing in association with Golden Boy, live on DAZN on November 19. Media interested in covering this event in New Hampshire can apply for credentials using this link: https://form.jotform.com/212764468829369

For more information, visit www.goldenboypromotions.com and DAZN.com. Follow on Twitter @GoldenBoyBoxing and @DAZNBoxing. Become a fan on Facebook at www.facebook.com/GoldenBoy and https://www.facebook.com/DAZN. Follow on Instagram @GoldenBoy and @DAZNBoxing.
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Quigley: Very Important To Bring My A-Game Against Demetrius Andrade

Irish middleweight contender Jason Quigley has spoken of the highs and lows of the boxing business after a topsy-turvy 2021.

Quigley had been in the frame to face pound-for-pound star Saul Alvarez earlier in the year but despite being on a shortlist of three was rejected when Avni Yildrim took the call instead.

Quigley then defeated Shane Mosley Jr in May and his upward trajectory continued all the way into the announcement that he would face WBO middleweight champion Demetrius Andrade in Boston on November 19.

“It was obviously a disappointment when the Canelo fight didn’t come off, going from such a high to such a low but, look, once you have a few years in this boxing game you understand it’s one hell of an up and down sport,” Quigley explained.

“You don’t ever take anything for granted unless that contract’s signed and it’s told me to be in the moment, to be present and not think too far ahead. I was one of three opponents that was possible for Canelo and it went to Yildrim – who I thought would have been one of the most unlikely. He wasn’t with Golden Boy and I was and I thought it was a very easy fight to get made, but it didn’t happen. That’s in the past and you move on from that. It’s great to be even in conversation about great fights like that and that’s the way that I took it, I used it down the line. To be in the conversation for having a fight with Canelo is only going to be an advantage for me moving forwards, thinking I’m definitely going to get that world title shot, and here I am. I had a great victory over Shane Mosley Jr back in May in Vegas and that’s set me up for Andrade for the world middleweight title.”

Canelo’s name is so big in sport that even if you mildly brush up against it, it can benefit you, as Quigley has discovered.

But Andrade is a very different proposition to the Mexican great. The Rhode Island southpaw had a physical fight with Liam Williams back in April and Quigley, a former stablemate of Williams at the Ingle gym in Sheffield, paid close attention.

“It was a great fight,” added the Irishman. ”Early on, everyone thought it was going to be an early night and Liam showed his toughness and his hardness and battled through that early storm. I don’t think that fight was ever going away from Andrade but I think it looked like Liam was coming back into it. Liam really put it on him and tested Andrade and he made Andrade dig deep, which I don’t think he likes to do. He likes to get a good fast start, try to knock you out and if that doesn’t happen, he still has a lead and he likes to coast in the rest of the fight. Liam put up a great fight against him, and I think he rocked and hurt him a few times which looked like it was swaying in Liam’s favour but Andrade was just too technically gifted.”

While the smart southpaw presents Quigley with a very different set of problems to the Mexican great, the 30-year-old challenger not only has faith in himself but he has faith in his coach, former world middleweight champion Andy Lee. They have been in camp in Morecambe with heavyweight Joseph Parker and Isaac Lowe and while Lee was an excellent, stiff-hitting left-hander, he’s not been tempted to put the gloves back on to move around with his charge.

“Everything’s going great with Andy,” continued Quigley. “I don’t think Andy’s put on a pair of gloves since he retired and it would be very difficult to get him in the ring to put the gloves back on just for sparring! Anyone who knows Andy knows he’s a very intelligent man and he’s got a great boxing IQ and when he’s committed to something he sees it through. He was committed to retiring from the sport and walking away and I can’t see him ever stepping back in again. He’s moved on now to the role of coach and he’s doing an amazing job at that.”

Between them they have to devise a strategy that will make Quigley the first man to beat Andrade in 30 bouts as a pro.

“Technically he’s a very skilful fighter,” 19-1 Quigley admitted. “He has a great amateur pedigree and background as a former world amateur gold medallist, so he’s got a lot of skills and talent. Sometimes that doesn’t transfer well into professional boxing in terms of excitement and being a fan friendly fighter and I think that’s been his downfall in terms of stardom because of his style he’s not like a Canelo who moves forward, very aggressive and knocks guys clean out. But he’s a very good, technically-gifted boxer and he can be wild and reckless at times as well.

"He’s a great champion and I need to concentrate on my plan and bringing the best version of me into the ring, not trying to concentrate on him or worrying about what he has. The most important thing is bringing my A game on fight night. Nobody was going to give me a chance against Canelo. A lot of people would say Andrade is an easier fight than Canelo but all these guys have been avoiding Andrade, all these guys haven’t been fighting Andrade. He’s had a world title belt and Canelo could have maybe been undisputed champ at middleweight, which he decided not to do and he moved up in weight. At the end of the day, Andrade is an undefeated fighter, a two-time world champion and if you’re into boxing you know he’s a good champion.”
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Curtis Stevens, Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Jaime Munguia all stopped Tureano Johnson.

Tureano Johnson stopped Jason Quigley.

Jason Quigley's career-best win was his fortunate victory over the unaccomplished unheralded borderline journeyman Shane Mosley Jr.

Demetrius Andrade is unbeaten, a two-time world champion at 154lbs, the current WBO champ at 160lbs and will be engaging in his ninth world title fight against Quigley.

Boo Boo has beaten at least six fighters far superior than Quigley.

Andrade wins this one-sided fight either by late stoppage (due to excessive fatigue between rounds ten to twelve) or more likely, by decision.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 10:24 Curtis Stevens, Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Jaime Munguia all stopped Tureano Johnson.

Tureano Johnson stopped Jason Quigley.

Jason Quigley's career-best win was his fortunate victory over the unaccomplished unheralded borderline journeyman Shane Mosley Jr.

Demetrius Andrade is unbeaten, a two-time world champion at 154lbs, the current WBO champ at 160lbs and will be engaging in his ninth world title fight against Quigley.

Boo Boo has beaten at least six fighters far superior than Quigley.

Andrade wins this one-sided fight either by late stoppage (due to excessive fatigue between rounds ten to twelve) or more likely, by decision.
Hopefully after this some of the top guys will find their nutsack and fight Andrade.
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lol, more utter trash for demetrius, aka the garbage man :lol:
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He didn't even beat a champion to get his belt, it was vacant. And since then he has been hoarding it for years.
I want Jason to beat him so badly :oops: because guys like this don't deserve to be called champions. And I'm not usually wishing ill will to fighters. But this guy is truly taking the piss.
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KiwiRider wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:35 He didn't even beat a champion to get his belt, it was vacant. And since then he has been hoarding it for years.
I want Jason to beat him so badly :oops: because guys like this don't deserve to be called champions. And I'm not usually wishing ill will to fighters. But this guy is truly taking the piss.
He's tried to get fights with Canelo, GGG, Mall Charlo, and BJS. None of them will fight. Am I missing something? The guy is hated on for stupid reasons from nearly a decade ago. There is a reason he is avoided.
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KiwiRider wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:35 He didn't even beat a champion to get his belt, it was vacant. And since then he has been hoarding it for years.
I want Jason to beat him so badly :oops: because guys like this don't deserve to be called champions. And I'm not usually wishing ill will to fighters. But this guy is truly taking the piss.
:TU:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:26 lol, more utter trash for demetrius, aka the garbage man :lol:
I'm curious, who are your favorite boxers and why don't you say something about them, rather than straddle the fence and troll other people's posts trying to get a reaction? Either you are dumber than a box or about 12 yrs old.
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Bandog wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 19:07
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:26 lol, more utter trash for demetrius, aka the garbage man :lol:
I'm curious, who are your favorite boxers and why don't you say something about them, rather than straddle the fence and troll other people's posts trying to get a reaction? Either you are dumber than a box or about 12 yrs old.
bruh, you were the one quoting me , i wasnt even responding to you. why do you get so shook up my man? does it sting your soul if someone says that andrade has fought total crap? you sure act like it
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Bandog wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:54
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 18:35 He didn't even beat a champion to get his belt, it was vacant. And since then he has been hoarding it for years.
I want Jason to beat him so badly :oops: because guys like this don't deserve to be called champions. And I'm not usually wishing ill will to fighters. But this guy is truly taking the piss.
He's tried to get fights with Canelo, GGG, Mall Charlo, and BJS. None of them will fight. Am I missing something? The guy is hated on for stupid reasons from nearly a decade ago. There is a reason he is avoided.
Read back through this thread, plenty of examples of him ducking the fights that could actually be made, GGG and Canelo want no part of him because their fan base don't want to see his negative, just do enough to win each round, boring crap.
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