Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 Nov 2021, 05:34

Crawford - Decision
40
57%
Crawford - T/KO
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21%
DRAW
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1%
Porter - T/KO
5
7%
Porter - Decision
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13%
 
Total votes: 70

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Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 05:49
Evander wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 05:08 Who has hit Terence Crawford and had an impact to take over the fight ?
There's not a single fighter that can claim that.
To be fair, the calibre of opposition Crawford has faced since August 2017 has been particularly dire, especially in the context of him being a long-time top-three ranked pound-for-pounder.

I'm not saying you're wrong, by the way, but we can't ignore his weak resume at 147lbs.
Resume's matter when you want them to, and it fits your narrative. Crawford isn't a career welter like the others, so duh he doesn't have the best resume there. I do wish he hadn't stayed with Arum so long, that would have helped.
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Looked at the odds today.

Crawford -900
Porter +500

Crawford was -700 previous to that.
What happened over the last week to shift them ?
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Bandog wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 19:09Resume's matter when you want them to, and it fits your narrative. Crawford isn't a career welter like the others, so duh he doesn't have the best resume there.
I’m guessing that you feel that 51-months isn’t sufficient time to achieve anything notable at 147lbs?

During a 53-month timeframe, Anthony Joshua made his pro debut, competed in 21 bouts, six world title fights, unified the WBA, WBO & IBF straps, gained victories over six undefeated foes, beating three world champions, whilst also achieving victories against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale and Carlos Takam.

But I totally get your point!

Terence Crawford couldn’t have possibly achieved much than he has done during a 51-month timeframe, because as you say, he isn’t a “career welter”! :lol:

FFS! :brick:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 06:46
Bandog wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 19:09Resume's matter when you want them to, and it fits your narrative. Crawford isn't a career welter like the others, so duh he doesn't have the best resume there.
I’m guessing that you feel that 51-months isn’t sufficient time to achieve anything notable at 147lbs?

During a 53-month timeframe, Anthony Joshua made his pro debut, competed in 21 bouts, six world title fights, unified the WBA, WBO & IBF straps, gained victories over six undefeated foes, beating three world champions, whilst also achieving victories against the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale and Carlos Takam.

But I totally get your point!

Terence Crawford couldn’t have possibly achieved much than he has done during a 51-month timeframe, because as you say, he isn’t a “career welter”! :lol:

FFS! :brick:
AJ did all that, and sure they are fine achievements, But it still dosent come close to Crawford beating an undefeated GOAT Jeff "the hornet" Horn.
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AJ did all that, and sure they are fine achievements, But it still dosent come close to Crawford beating an undefeated GOAT Jeff "the hornet" Horn.
Yes that was an incredible victory, especially considering the Human Hornet had managed to sting the legendary Manny Pacquiao less then a year earlier. Crawford is 5-0 with 5 spectacular knockouts since he moved up to Welterweight, against 5 fine contenders. Compare what he's done to other top welters, The great Manny for instance is 3-1 over the same time period. And the great Danny Garcia is 3-2. The numbers don't lie, Crawford has certainly done fine work in the welterweight division.

Crawford is a slow starter, he usually likes to take his time and figure out how his man fights. He could fall behind Porter and get stuck playing catch up. I wouldn't be surprised if he bides his time and waits to set traps to counter. I could see him lighting Porter up and knocking him out in the mid to later rounds. If it goes to the judges Porter may have a decent chance. Porter just needs to be Porter, go full energy from the start, turn it into a crazy sloppy brawl. Crawford will do the more accurate high precision work but Porter's never easy to score. Porter's fights against Thurman and Brook were very close, I had to watch them multiple times and I'm still not sure Porter lost.
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There are plenty of tickets remaining for those willing to pay the price.
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sons of nava battle, maybe daddy will be there giving his support
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Press Release | Undercard Update

November 20: Terence Crawford-Shawn Porter Undercard Loaded With Contenders and Rising Stars at Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas

Esquiva Falcao-Patrice Volny middleweight title eliminator, Janibek Alimkhanuly-Hassan N’Dam and Raymond Muratalla-Steven Ortiz round out Top Rank PPV Broadcast Exclusively LIVE on ESPN+ at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT

Isaac Dogboe-Christopher Diaz featherweight showdown to be broadcast live on ESPN2 & ESPN+ before PPV broadcast at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT

LAS VEGAS (Nov. 4, 2021) — There will be plenty of fistic reinforcements Saturday, Nov. 20 at Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

Two high-stakes middleweight showdowns and a 50-50 fight featuring undefeated lightweights will comprise the televised PPV undercard of the welterweight super fight between undefeated WBO world champion Terence “Bud” Crawford and former two-time welterweight world champion “Showtime” Shawn Porter.

The co-feature, a 12-round IBF middleweight world title eliminator, will see Brazilian 2012 Olympic silver medalist Esquiva “La Pantera” Falcao fight fellow unbeaten Patrice Volny.

The PPV telecast also includes a 10-round middleweight tilt between rising star Janibek “Qazaq Style” Alimkhanuly and former world champion Hassan N’Dam, and an eight-round lightweight duel between unbeaten prospects Raymond “Danger” Muratalla and Steven “The Hitman” Ortiz.

Presented by Top Rank and TGB Promotions, Crawford-Porter will be a Top Rank PPV exclusively on ESPN+ in the United States at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT. Limited tickets are still available and can be purchased by visiting AXS.com.

Before the PPV telecast, a special feature will set the stage. Former junior featherweight world champion Isaac “Royal Storm” Dogboe will face two-time title challenger Christopher “Pitufo” Diaz in a 10-round featherweight bout. Dogboe-Diaz will be shown live on ESPN2 and ESPN+ at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT.

Additional undercard fights will be announced shortly.

Falcao (28-0, 20 KOs) is a seven-year pro who signed with Top Rank following the 2012 Olympics. The 31-year-old southpaw has steadily climbed the world rankings and has knocked out five straight foes dating back to 2019. In his last outing, he stopped former world title challenger Artur Akavov in four rounds. Volny (16-0, 10 KOs), from Montreal, Canada, has fought all his pro fights in his home country and is coming off a March knockout over noted tough man Janks Trotter. The winner of Falcao-Volny will be in line to fight for the title currently held by Gennadiy Golovkin.

“I have waited for an opportunity like this for a long time, and I will grab it with both hands,” Falcao said. “I have an Olympic medal, and now it’s time to add a professional world title to my trophy case.”

Volny said, “I had several major opportunities fall through, but I am ecstatic that the fight with Falcao is happening. It won’t be an easy fight, but I have been training for a long time, and I will do whatever it takes to earn my shot at the title.”

Alimkhanuly (10-0, 6 KOs) is ranked the No. 2 middleweight by the WBO and coming off his signature win, an eighth-round stoppage over former world champion Rob Brant. From Zhilandy, Kazakhstan, the 2016 Olympian has knocked out four straight opponents dating back to April 2019. N’Dam (38-5, 21 KOs), a 17-year pro from Cameroon, held the WBA middleweight world title in 2017 and challenged for world titles on three other occasions. After a pair of defeats at super middleweight, N’Dam returns to the middleweight ranks, where he most recently defeated the formidable Martin Murray via majority decision.

Muratalla (12-0, 10 KOs), from Fontana, California, has risen to prominence fighting out of the famed Robert Garcia Boxing Academy in Riverside, California. He last fought on the Josh Taylor-Jose Ramirez card in May, knocking out Jose Gallegos in five rounds. Ortiz (12-0, 3 KOs), from Philadelphia, has made a habit of knocking off undefeated prospects. In his last six fights, he has defeated four undefeated fighters, including a unanimous decision over the 14-0 Jeremy Hill in March.

Dogboe (22-2, 15 KOs) has revitalized his career since back-to-back title fight losses to Emanuel “Vaquero” Navarrete. After a comeback knockout over Chris Avalos, he bested Adam Lopez by majority decision in June. Diaz (26-3, 16 KOs) is a two-time world challenger coming off a 12th-round TKO loss in a bid for Navarrete’s WBO featherweight world title. The Puerto Rican veteran had won two bouts as a featherweight entering the Navarrete fight and hopes a win over Dogboe leads to a third crack at world title glory.

“I’m excited for this challenge, a massive opportunity to get closer to becoming a two-division world champion,” Dogboe said. “This is a fight the fans won’t want to miss. I know Christopher is tough, but I’m stronger, tougher, and smarter. I’d like to commend everyone at Top Rank for making this fight possible and to Diaz for accepting the challenge. I always want to give the fans something to remember. That’s why I leave it all in the ring.”

Diaz said, “I’m coming back, and I’m very excited about fighting on a great stage like Crawford vs. Porter. Dogboe is a solid fighter who only has two losses against Navarrete. We both have a lot to give to boxing. The fans already know what to expect every time I get in the ring. I’m sure this fight will steal the show on November 20.”
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Will cost $69.99 to watch in the United States

“The only way you can do this fight is on pay-per-view because of the purses,” Arum said then in reference to the combined guarantees of roughly $10 million for Crawford and Porter. “And I think it’ll do well on pay-per-view. But we’re gonna try to keep the price reasonable.”
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ESPN Presents Strong Support Programming Slate for Blockbuster Welterweight Showdown Crawford vs. Porter on November 20 on ESPN+ PPV

Two-Part Blood, Sweat & Tears: Crawford vs. Porter Goes Behind the Scenes

Lineup includes Press Conference, State of Boxing: Crawford vs. Porter Preview Special, Weigh-In and More

Sign up or Purchase Top Rank Pay-Per-View Exclusively on ESPN+

ESPN’s platforms will offer an extensive lineup of programming leading up to the highly anticipated showdown between WBO welterweight world champion Terence “Bud” Crawford and his toughest test ever, former two-time world champion “Showtime” Shawn Porter. The event will stream exclusively on ESPN+ PPV Saturday, Nov. 20, at 9 p.m. ET. Presented by Top Rank and TGB Promotions, the fight is the first-ever Top Rank-ESPN+ exclusive PPV.

Kicking off the two weeks of offerings is the two-part Blood, Sweat & Tears: Crawford vs. Porter. Part One can be seen Wednesday, Nov. 10, at 12:30 a.m. (Tuesday at 9:30 p.m. PT). Part 2 of Blood, Sweat & Tears: Crawford vs. Porter airs on ESPN2 on Sunday, Nov. 14, at 2:30 a.m. (11:30 p.m. PT). The original all-access series takes fans behind the scenes in the training camp of both fighters. Both parts will replay multiple times until fight night.

On Thursday, the entire ESPN boxing analyst team, including Joe Tessitore, Bernardo Osuna and Mark Kriegel, along with former pound-for-pound king Andre Ward and former world champion Timothy Bradley, preview the welterweight blockbuster. State of Boxing: Crawford vs. Porter Preview Special streams exclusively on ESPN+ on Thursday, Nov. 18.

In addition, the “Get Ready for Crawford vs. Porter” ESPN+ on-demand collection is now live on the ESPN App. This is available through the day of the fight on web, mobile, the ESPN App, and wherever one can stream on-demand ESPN+ content. It includes great historical fights for both Crawford and Porter.

Long considered possibly the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport, Crawford (37-0, 28 KOs) will step into the ring looking to maintain his perfect record. Porter (31-3-1, 17 KOs) has fought most of this generation’s elite welterweights and has standout victories over the likes of Danny Garcia, Adrien Broner, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto, Devon Alexander and Yordenis Ugas.

The Crawford-Porter card, from Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, will begin at 9 p.m. ET exclusively on ESPN+ PPV. It will be preceded by the undercard at 7 p.m. ET on ESPN2 and ESPN+ and an earlier undercard at 6 p.m. ET on the ESPN App.

Crawford vs. Porter Programming Lineup
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Press Release | Muratalla vs. Araujo To Open ESPN+ PPV, Ortiz Injured

Raymond “Danger” Muratalla, the 24-year-old lightweight from Fontana, California, has a new opponent for his PPV debut Saturday, Nov. 20 at Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

After unbeaten prospect Steven Ortiz was forced to withdraw due to injury, Muratalla will fight Argentina’s Elias “El Macho” Araujo in an eight-rounder to open the PPV broadcast of the welterweight super fight between undefeated WBO world champion Terence “Bud” Crawford and former two-time welterweight world champion “Showtime” Shawn Porter.

The PPV telecast also includes a 12-round IBF middleweight title eliminator featuring unbeaten contenders Esquiva “La Pantera” Falcao and Patrice Volny, and a 10-round middleweight tilt between rising star Janibek “Qazaq Style” Alimkhanuly and former world champion Hassan N’Dam.

Presented by Top Rank and TGB Promotions, Crawford-Porter will be a Top Rank PPV exclusively on ESPN+ in the United States at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT. Limited tickets are still available and can be purchased by visiting AXS.com.

Muratalla (12-0, 10 KOs), who trains with Robert Garcia in Riverside, California, has won seven consecutive bouts by knockout. Araujo (21-3, 8 KOs) has never been stopped as a professional, and his only two lightweight defeats have come via close decision. He was supposed to fight Joseph Adorno in Las Vegas on Nov. 5, but the bout was scrapped after Adorno missed the contract weight.

Before the PPV broadcast commences, Southern California natives Adam “BluNose” Lopez and Adan Ochoa will fight in an eight-round featherweight rematch on the undercard telecast (ESPN2 & ESPN+, 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT) headlined by the scheduled 10-round featherweight firefight between former world champion Isaac “Royal Storm” Dogboe and two-time title challenger Christopher “Pitufo” Diaz. Lopez (15-3, 6 KOs) hopes to rebound from June’s razor-thin decision loss to Dogboe, while Ochoa (12-2, 5 KOs) seeks retribution. Ochoa and Lopez fought as undefeated prospects in April 2017, and Lopez prevailed by four-round unanimous decision.

The fight action begins on the ESPN App (6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT) with a pair of young stars. 2016 U.S. Olympian Karlos Balderas (10-1, 9 KOs) looks to continue his winning ways against Julio Cortez (15-3, 11 KOs) in a six-rounder at junior lightweight, while recent U.S. Olympian Tiger Johnson will make his long-awaited professional debut in a welterweight four-rounder versus Antonius Grable (3-1-1, 3 KOs). Johnson recently signed a long-term promotional pact with Top Rank.

Balderas, the fighting pride of Santa Maria, California, lost his unbeaten record with a shocking knockout loss to Rene Tellez Giron in December 2019. After the setback, Balderas changed managers, signed a promotional contract with Top Rank, and linked up with noted trainer Buddy McGirt. He came back in August with a second-round knockout over Fidel Cervantes. Cortez, a seven-year pro, has never been knocked out.

Johnson, from Cleveland, Ohio, advanced to the quarterfinals of the welterweight bracket at the Tokyo Olympics before losing a decision to eventual gold medalist Roniel Iglesias (Cuba).
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Is there anyone hyped for this? Because i am :box: :box: :box:
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Porter is sparring Tank Davis.
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Cent0089 wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 08:24 Is there anyone hyped for this? Because i am :box: :box: :box:
I am with you. Two of my current favorites. A lot of people dislike Porter’s style, but he brings a spoiling game to the table that TCraw has not faced. It will be interesting to see how he chooses to deal with Porter vs how Spence, Thurman, and Brook went about it.

I favor TCraw, of course, but Porter is a baaad man.
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Cent0089 wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 08:24 Is there anyone hyped for this? Because i am :box: :box: :box:
I'm quite hyped. It's the first truly elite level test for Crawford at this weight. Brook and Khan were way past it, Kaval is a fringe, Horn was a blown up sh!thouse, while Porter is a legit top fighter currently in the division.
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Not too many fans are talking how Porter faced prime Brook, Spence, Garcia and Thurman. He fought the best in one of most stacked division. :box: :box: :box: I think if he can take Crawford punches, he can win this on points. If not, Bud will stop him
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Cent0089 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 05:41 Not too many fans are talking how Porter faced prime Brook, Spence, Garcia and Thurman. He fought the best in one of most stacked division. :box: :box: :box: I think if he can take Crawford punches, he can win this on points. If not, Bud will stop him
I can't see Porter winning Bud on points at all. Porter is a very good hard worker, while Crawford is a sweet science master, a sublime guru of boxing and the second coming of Sugar Ray Leonard. Crawford will secure a dec in a boxing masterpice showdown.
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DrDuke wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 05:46
Cent0089 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 05:41 Not too many fans are talking how Porter faced prime Brook, Spence, Garcia and Thurman. He fought the best in one of most stacked division. :box: :box: :box: I think if he can take Crawford punches, he can win this on points. If not, Bud will stop him
I can't see Porter winning Bud on points at all. Porter is a very good hard worker, while Crawford is a sweet science master, a sublime guru of boxing and the second coming of Sugar Ray Leonard. Crawford will secure a dec in a boxing masterpice showdown.
Yeah i think Crawford got this, and it will be better for boxing because maybe we will see Crawford - Spence megafight ....but it is hard not to root for Showtime Porter :box: :box: :box:
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Not sure...if I'm betting a lot of money perhaps I should choose the guy that has the better resume? :OhYes:
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Cent0089 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 06:11
DrDuke wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 05:46
Cent0089 wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 05:41 Not too many fans are talking how Porter faced prime Brook, Spence, Garcia and Thurman. He fought the best in one of most stacked division. :box: :box: :box: I think if he can take Crawford punches, he can win this on points. If not, Bud will stop him
I can't see Porter winning Bud on points at all. Porter is a very good hard worker, while Crawford is a sweet science master, a sublime guru of boxing and the second coming of Sugar Ray Leonard. Crawford will secure a dec in a boxing masterpice showdown.
Yeah i think Crawford got this, and it will be better for boxing because maybe we will see Crawford - Spence megafight ....but it is hard not to root for Showtime Porter :box: :box: :box:
Yeah at least Shawn has been testing himself and not sitting back chuging down gimmes.
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