Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021

[apollo creed]

Andrade wasn't going to fight for peanuts vs Charlo at that time. Now he's with Dazn, and I think he's paid well.

I agree that his resume is poor , excepting the wins vs undefeated Vanes Martirosyan and Maciej Sulecki, but hey, wasn't BJS caught on nasal sprays diet ? It wasn't Andrade's fault.

[apollo creed]

Ok, but first lets get objectively inside of these "proofs" you posted:


"Demetrius Andrade "pulls out" of Charlo fight over purse offer"

"That fight was made without even talking to us," said Paul Andrade. "I have no objection to the fight but what we have objections to is that they didn't want to pay us any money to fight.
"I mean, $250,000 for Charlo is ridiculous. That's what they offered, but we did not ask to make the fight or look to make the fight. We waited until the last minute for them to come back with a better offer but it just didn't happen."

If this is true then Andrade was right. That was poor money like a lowball offer.


"Andrade Passes on Middleweight Title Shot" (vs Korobov)

"After Peter Quillin dropped the title, WBO Jr. middleweight title-holder Demetrius Andrade requested the WBO to face Matt Korobov for the middleweight title. The WBO immediately approved his request.
However, we learned today that Demetrius Andrade has elected to stay in the 154-pound division and has passed on the opportunity to face Matt Korobov for the WBO middleweight title. An opportunity he requested himself. Coincidentally (or not), Demetrius Andrade is managed by the same manager as Peter Quillin, Al Haymon."

Probably Andrade was "advised" to stay at 154 and not move up.


"Erislandy Lara Says Demetrius Andrade Priced Himself Out"

"I'd like to face Demetrius Andrade, who talks too much. But to tell you the truth, at the moment he doesn't want to face me. He is asking for a lot of money, an amount of money that he does not deserve. If we finally don't reach any type of agreement with Andrade, then we will be looking at Jarrett Hurd, the International Boxing Federation champion. I still have two more fights left in 2017. One of them will be against someone important," Lara said.

“Nobody ever talked to us about money,” Pelullo told BS.com. “We were told by Showtime that [Lara] didn’t want the fight. We went to Germany and he beat Culcay. He did everything he had to do. We came back. Lara was talking about fighting Demetrius Andrade. We came back and what Showtime told us was he didn’t want the fight – he wasn’t interested in doing the fight. But I’m telling you, there was no conversation with Al [Haymon, Lara’s manager] or any of the promoters that are working with Al or anybody about what the money was. We never got that far. We were told [Lara] didn’t want the fight after Demetrius beat Culcay. That’s exactly what happened."

For me it seems that what Pelullo says looks more objective than what Lara said.


"Derevyanchenko Manager: Andrade Pulled Out of Deal for 12/16"

"Keith Connolly, Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s manager, told BS.com that the unbeaten middleweight agreed to face Demetrius Andrade on the Billy Joe Saunders-David Lemieux undercard December 16 in Laval, Quebec. The deal was almost finalized, but Andrade withdrew from negotiations because the undefeated contender didn’t think he had enough time to prepare for such a difficult fight against Derevyanchenko (11-0, 9 KOs).

Negotiations began late in October, roughly seven weeks before an Andrade-Derevyanchenko fight would’ve taken place, not long after Andrade’s most recent bout. Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs), a former WBA super welterweight champion, out-boxed Alantez Fox (23-1-1, 11 KOs) to win that 12-round middleweight match by unanimous decision October 21 in Verona, New York"

“We were in the ninth inning of negotiations to fight Andrade and had agreed on pretty much everything,” Connolly said. “We were told by his people that he was ready and that he had agreed. But then, at the last second, he pulled out.

“He claimed he didn’t have enough time [to get ready], but these negotiations took place seven weeks before the fight date. So that’s plenty of time. If you think you’re gonna take the fight, you start training right away.”

Well, indeed 7 weeks are not so much time to prepare for a tough fight against Chenko but I don't get it why Andrade didn't say nothing before the deal was almost finalized and had agreed on pretty much everything?


Also when Andrade was almost to fight BJS, then the one who screwed up with that nasal spray was BJS and the fight was off.


EO, when you post "facts" and "proofs" , you should post the subject with objectivity, not just C&P titles or quotes!

[Enlightened-One]

Andrade wasn't going to fight for peanuts vs Charlo at that time.

Can you not fὗḉkḭṉḡ read? I’ve actually spoon-fed you all the information!

Jermell Charlo was the challenger offering the champion, Demetrius Andrade, a career-high payday to defend his title against him.

Imagine if Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr. rejected career-high paydays to defend their titles against Jaron Ennis, you’d fὗḉkḭṉḡ ridicule both of those guys!

Demetrius Andrade received $200K when he faced Brian Rose, he was then offered and rejected career-high payday of $250K to face Jermell Charlo, which was eventually increased to $300K, an amount that Boo Boo's handlers eventually accepted, but then he decided to withdraw at the last minute.

Joe DeGuardia, Andrade's co-promoter, even told ESPN the offer was "a good move for Demetrius and his career".

Demetrius Andrade then decided to lobby the WBO, to challenge for the vacant middleweight title, which he was entitled to do, (since he was their 154lbs champion), but then withdrew when he was informed he’d be facing Matt Korobov.

So after ducking Jermell Charlo and Matt Korobov around the same timeframe, Demetrius Andrade decided to remain inactive for 16 months, which resulted in him being stripped of his WBO world 154lbs title.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade faced Jack Culcay for $75K.

Demetrius Andrade then ducked Sergiy Derevyanchenko after his team spent weeks agreeing all the terms of the deal, Boo Boo's excuse was seven weeks wasn't enough time to prepare! FFS!

How bad is that? Even GGG is smart enough to commence training camp for the Murata fight, even though it's not been officially approved by DAZN yet. And Canrelo takes fights at much shorter notice than seven weeks! So what's Boo Boo's excuse?

Why do you continue to creatively fabricate fictional excuses for Demetrius Andrade's bizarre actions, apollo creed, because any other fighter behaved like Boo Boo and you'd ridicule them?

[Bandog]

@ EO

Still waiting......" He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification."

But hey, keep talking in circles to avoid it, and denigrate boxers you don't like to get reactions. It's what Trolls like you do best.

Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?

Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?

Answering questions with questions? I asked a simple question. Can you verify your claim that Andrade vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification?. Answer or STFU you fornicating TROLL. Tuck your tail and admit you are lying or never comment on any of my posts again. I'll make sure I avoid your troll bs too.

[apollo creed]

Andrade wasn't going to fight for peanuts vs Charlo at that time.

Can you not fὗḉkḭṉḡ read? I’ve actually spoon-fed you all the information!

Jermell Charlo was the challenger offering the champion, Demetrius Andrade, a career-high payday to defend his title against him.

Imagine if Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr. rejected career-high paydays to defend their titles against Jaron Ennis, you’d fὗḉkḭṉḡ ridicule both of those guys!

Demetrius Andrade received $200K when he faced Brian Rose, he was then offered and rejected career-high payday of $250K to face Jermell Charlo, which was eventually increased to $300K, an amount that Boo Boo's handlers eventually accepted, but then he decided to withdraw at the last minute.

Joe DeGuardia, Andrade's co-promoter, even told ESPN the offer was "a good move for Demetrius and his career".

Demetrius Andrade then decided to lobby the WBO, to challenge for the vacant middleweight title, which he was entitled to do, (since he was their 154lbs champion), but then withdrew when he was informed he’d be facing Matt Korobov.

So after ducking Jermell Charlo and Matt Korobov around the same timeframe, Demetrius Andrade decided to remain inactive for 16 months, which resulted in him being stripped of his WBO world 154lbs title.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade faced Jack Culcay for $75K.

Demetrius Andrade then ducked Sergiy Derevyanchenko after his team spent weeks agreeing all the terms of the deal, Boo Boo's excuse was seven weeks wasn't enough time to prepare! FFS!

How bad is that? Even GGG is smart enough to commence training camp for the Murata fight, even though it's not been officially approved by DAZN yet. And Canrelo takes fights at much shorter notice than seven weeks! So what's Boo Boo's excuse?

Why do you continue to creatively fabricate fictional excuses for Demetrius Andrade's bizarre actions, apollo creed, because any other fighter behaved like Boo Boo and you'd ridicule them?

Son use your brain, would you take a high risk fight for a lowballed offer of 250k ? when you can fight guys like Brian Rose for 200k as you said!

Andrade must have earned easier much more money from fighting Rose, Pucheta, Nelson, Culcay and Fox than 250k !

Also , Andrade vs BJS fight was so close to happen, when BJS was caught on nasal spray diet, yet you don't say nothing about that!

[apollo creed]

@ EO

Still waiting......" He voluntarily vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification."

But hey, keep talking in circles to avoid it, and denigrate boxers you don't like to get reactions. It's what Trolls like you do best.

Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?

Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?

Answering questions with questions? I asked a simple question. Can you verify your claim that Andrade vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification?. Answer or STFU you fornicating TROLL. Tuck your tail and admit you are lying or never comment on any of my posts again. I'll make sure I avoid your troll bs too.

EO is such a disingenuous attention-seeker-troll full of Q's and rhetorics.

EO wasn't able to provide the quote where Kovalev's manager is saying that Kovalev has or hasn't a rehydration clause vs Canelo.

[Enlightened-One]

Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?

Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?

Answering questions with questions? I asked a simple question. Can you verify your claim that Andrade vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification?. Answer or STFU you fornicating TROLL. Tuck your tail and admit you are lying or never comment on any of my posts again. I'll make sure I avoid your troll bs too.

EO is such a disingenuous attention-seeker-troll full of Q's and rhetorics.

EO wasn't able to provide the quote where Kovalev's manager is saying that Kovalev has or hasn't a rehydration clause vs Canelo.

I provided a video of him saying it though!

[The Gratest]

Answering questions with questions? I asked a simple question. Can you verify your claim that Andrade vacated his titles on multiple occasions without any valid justification?. Answer or STFU you fornicating TROLL. Tuck your tail and admit you are lying or never comment on any of my posts again. I'll make sure I avoid your troll bs too.

EO is such a disingenuous attention-seeker-troll full of Q's and rhetorics.

EO wasn't able to provide the quote where Kovalev's manager is saying that Kovalev has or hasn't a rehydration clause vs Canelo.

I provided a video of him saying it though!

No you didn't dummkopf

You provided a video of him saying "mmm..it's..they..it's it's...aeiiii...I don't know..."

I still win! Woohooooo!!

[apollo creed]

EO is such a disingenuous attention-seeker-troll full of Q's and rhetorics.

EO wasn't able to provide the quote where Kovalev's manager is saying that Kovalev has or hasn't a rehydration clause vs Canelo.

I provided a video of him saying it though!

No you didn't dummkopf

You provided a video of him saying "mmm..it's..they..it's it's...aeiiii...I don't know..."

I still win! Woohooooo!!

Yup, he wasn't able to provide that. He's repeating his bs rhetoric like a parrot.

[Bandog]

Hopefully MODS do something about "Enlightened One". A warning perhaps? He is a cancer to the entire forum. Maybe the rules about trolling are not really rules. He is bad for boxing in general.

[Enlightened-One]

Hopefully MODS do something about "Enlightened One". A warning perhaps? He is a cancer to the entire forum. Maybe the rules about trolling are not really rules. He is bad for boxing in general.

You want the moderators to ban someone who performs research and then cites evidence that undermines your claims?

Mmmm... interesting!

[The Gratest]

The irony

[Ruthless-RKO]

Press Release

Undefeated Australian Heavyweight contender Demsey McKean has signed a multi-fight promotional deal with Eddie Hearn's Matchroom Boxing and will make his American debut on the Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley WBO Middleweight World Title bill at the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire on Friday November 19, live worldwide on DAZN.

The 31-year-old southpaw from Queensland, who is trained by Tony Sims at the Matchroom Elite Boxing Gym in Essex, is the reigning WBO Asia Pacific Champion and the reigning IBF Inter-Continental Champion, belts that rank him at No.11 in the world with the WBO and No. 12 in the world with the IBF.

Demsey (19-0, 12 KOs) was used as a sparring partner by former Unified Heavyweight World Champion Anthony Joshua ahead of his huge showdown with Oleksandr Usyk at the home of Tottenham Hotspur in September before joining the WBC's No.1 ranked Heavyweight Dillian Whyte at his Portugal training camp ahead of his cancelled fight with Otto Wallin.

“I am delighted on my recent signing and to join the Matchroom Boxing team and get back in the ring next week,” said McKean. “I’ve had a brilliant time over the last few months sparring with Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte but now it’s time to do it for real and I can’t wait to fight in America.

“Matchroom have big plans in Australia but it also gives me the chance to box all over the world including the USA and the U.K. I’m looking forward to staying active and to keep climbing the Heavyweight rankings, thank you to Eddie Hearn and Angelo DiCarlo and the Ace Boxing Group team for making this happen."

"I’m very happy to announce Demsey as part of the Matchroom Boxing team as we continue our expansion into Australia," said Matchroom Sport Chairman Eddie Hearn. "Demsey is 19-0 and now ranked No. 11 with the WBO and 12 with the IBF in the Heavyweight division and sits on the cusp of some huge fights. Whilst the plan for us is to begin staging shows in Australia in 2022, we plan on boxing Demsey all around the world starting in the States next week. I’m excited to keep him active and continue to raise his profile globally before we return home for a major fight in Australia."

[watsupdoc87]

Got me wifi in hopefully I can stay awake to see our newest champion. I just have a feeling after 10 bottles of bira moreti than Quigley pulls the upset

[Enlightened-One]

Son use your brain, would you take a high risk fight for a lowballed offer of 250k ? when you can fight guys like Brian Rose for 200k as you said!

Andrade must have earned easier much more money from fighting Rose, Pucheta, Nelson, Culcay and Fox than 250k !

Imagine if Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr. rejected career-high paydays to defend their titles against Jaron Ennis, you’d fὗḉkḭṉḡ ridicule both of those guys!

Demetrius Andrade would have earned 50% more to defend his world title against Jermell Charlo than the sum he commanded for the Brian Rose bout. If you'd read my post, Boo Boo actually rejected $300K, not $250K.

So after ducking Jermell Charlo and Matt Korobov around the same timeframe, Demetrius Andrade decided to remain inactive for 16 months, which resulted in him being stripped of his WBO world 154lbs title.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade faced Jack Culcay for $75K, which was a 75% pay cut from the purse he was have received for the Jermell Charlo bout and 63% less than his paycheque for the Brian Rose fight!

"Son use your brain!!!!"

[Enlightened-One]

Demetrius Andrade: “I’d like to exploit my status as one of your champions to challenge for your vacant WBO 160lbs world title?”

Francisco Varcarcel: “Of course Boo Boo, but you do appreciate you’ll have to fight Matt Korobov?”

Demetrius Andrade: “Oh ȿhȋț! Forget that then! I ain’t fighting him - he scares me! I’d rather be inactive for 16 months and allow you to strip me of my 154lbs WBO world title, than risk getting beaten up by the fearsome Matt Korobov!”

Francisco Varcarcel: “It’s your choice, but you’ll earn a lot less without our title!”

[apollo creed]

Son use your brain, would you take a high risk fight for a lowballed offer of 250k ? when you can fight guys like Brian Rose for 200k as you said!

Andrade must have earned easier much more money from fighting Rose, Pucheta, Nelson, Culcay and Fox than 250k !

Imagine if Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr. rejected career-high paydays to defend their titles against Jaron Ennis, you’d fὗḉkḭṉḡ ridicule both of those guys!

Demetrius Andrade would have earned 50% more to defend his world title against Jermell Charlo than the sum he commanded for the Brian Rose bout. If you'd read my post, Boo Boo actually rejected $300K, not $250K.

So after ducking Jermell Charlo and Matt Korobov around the same timeframe, Demetrius Andrade decided to remain inactive for 16 months, which resulted in him being stripped of his WBO world 154lbs title.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade faced Jack Culcay for $75K, which was a 75% pay cut from the purse he was have received for the Jermell Charlo bout and 63% less than his paycheque for the Brian Rose fight!

"Son use your brain!!!!"

Son, please go and crawl back under your rock and stay there! You re just a boring troll.

[Enlightened-One]

Son use your brain, would you take a high risk fight for a lowballed offer of 250k ? when you can fight guys like Brian Rose for 200k as you said!

Andrade must have earned easier much more money from fighting Rose, Pucheta, Nelson, Culcay and Fox than 250k !

Imagine if Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr. rejected career-high paydays to defend their titles against Jaron Ennis, you’d fὗḉkḭṉḡ ridicule both of those guys!

Demetrius Andrade would have earned 50% more to defend his world title against Jermell Charlo than the sum he commanded for the Brian Rose bout. If you'd read my post, Boo Boo actually rejected $300K, not $250K.

So after ducking Jermell Charlo and Matt Korobov around the same timeframe, Demetrius Andrade decided to remain inactive for 16 months, which resulted in him being stripped of his WBO world 154lbs title.

Two fights later, Demetrius Andrade faced Jack Culcay for $75K, which was a 75% pay cut from the purse he was have received for the Jermell Charlo bout and 63% less than his paycheque for the Brian Rose fight!

"Son use your brain!!!!"

Son, please go and crawl back under your rock and stay there! You re just a boring troll.

Trolling with facts? That's an interesting accusation!

I forgot to ask, what do you think about the Andrade-Korobov situation?

And how much did Demetrius Andrade earn during the 16 months he was inactive after the Brian Rose bout?

How much did Andrade lose in paydays and commercial worth when he allowed the WBO to strip him of his world title due to a combination of ducking and inactivity?

But of course, you feel that Andrade was right to reject a career-best payday to defend his world title against Jermell Charlo, which was a 50% increase on his previous career-high purse, because you think he was somehow being lowballed!

[Enlightened-One]

Demetrius Andrade: “I’d like to exploit my status as one of your champions to challenge for your vacant WBO 160lbs world title?”

Francisco Varcarcel: “Of course Boo Boo, but you do appreciate you’ll have to fight Matt Korobov?”

Demetrius Andrade: “Oh ȿhȋț! Forget that then! I ain’t fighting him - he scares me! I’d rather be inactive for 16 months and allow you to strip me of my 154lbs WBO world title, than risk getting beaten up by the fearsome Matt Korobov!”

Francisco Varcarcel: “It’s your choice, but you’ll earn a lot less without our title!”

[The Gratest]

You got a link to those quotes buddy? Thanx

[Enlightened-One]

You got a link to those quotes buddy? Thanx

An official announcement from the WBO's own website:

"Andrade ducks Korobov!"

Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.

[The Gratest]

You got a link to those quotes buddy? Thanx

An official announcement from the WBO's own website:

"Andrade ducks Korobov!"

Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.

Sorry, you appear to have misunderstood me.
I was after a link to those direct quotes you provided please buddy. Thanx.

[Enlightened-One]

You got a link to those quotes buddy? Thanx

An official announcement from the WBO's own website:

"Andrade ducks Korobov!"

Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.

Sorry, you appear to have misunderstood me.
I was after a link to those direct quotes you provided please buddy. Thanx.

I'm after someone giving me a Bugatti Veyron. Thanx.

[The Gratest]

An official announcement from the WBO's own website:

"Andrade ducks Korobov!"

Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.

Sorry, you appear to have misunderstood me.
I was after a link to those direct quotes you provided please buddy. Thanx.

I'm after someone giving me a Bugatti Veyron. Thanx.

Ah, so you completely fabricated those quotes to try and add weight to your argument?

That makes a mockery of your claim of using facts. Those quotes aren't factual buddy. Shame on you for stooping that low...again.
I'll put it down to your lack of understanding of the english language, I realise it's not your first language.

Good luck with the Bugatti.

[apollo creed]

Sorry, you appear to have misunderstood me.
I was after a link to those direct quotes you provided please buddy. Thanx.

I'm after someone giving me a Bugatti Veyron. Thanx.

Ah, so you completely fabricated those quotes to try and add weight to your argument?

That makes a mockery of your claim of using facts. Those quotes aren't factual buddy. Shame on you for stooping that low...again.
I'll put it down to your lack of understanding of the english language, I realise it's not your first language.

Good luck with the Bugatti.

He's a boring attention-seeker armchair troll. His only "car seat" that he's gonna stay is this:




EO has nicknamed it "My Bugatti"