Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are one trick ponies...

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Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are one trick ponies...

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I loved when Wladimir's fanboys mocked Deontay Wilder. It was always funny because those two are both ONE TRICK ponies.

Wladimir's whole punch arsenal was - JAB GRAB STRAIGHT.

No combinations , no good inside fighting , scared to get HIT. Glass jawed.

Wladimir was pretty overrated - He was not anything special. He dominated very weak era against small one dimensional boxers who had no size or movement to match a superheavyweight.


Same goes for Deontay Wilder - I rate him as more dangerous opponent for someone like Tyson Fury or Usyk. Based on his wild explosive style sometimes - He can be very hard to predict with his wild punches from different angles
But there is the same story like about Wlad - No boxing skills , no good inside fighting , suspect stamina and his main arsenal was JAB and destructive straight.

Those two are one trick ponies and someone like Tyson Fury always beat the crap of them.

Klitschko could be even 20 years younger and Fury still schools him.

Wladimir is very lucky that he did not face KRONK Fury , because it would be a painfull night for him.

Usyk beats those two too. Power and size is not everything when you facing a better boxer.

Fury has everything compare to those two - the most completed boxer after LENNOX Lewis.

And Usyk is a beast too. Hell yeah Wladimir was one trick pony - thats for sure.

And i don't rate Tyson Fury so high yet. He has to prove that he can beat someone who is not ONE trick pony.

But he is a different master in boxing compare to someone like Klitschko
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Stupid threads are spreading faster around here then herpes. Yes, Klitschko was a one trick pony, a shot crappy fighter, just like Wilder. He only managed to be the best heavyweight, in other words, the best in the world, for 4382 days, longer then anybody else. What a no-talent bum..
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thereverend wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 07:47 Stupid threads are spreading faster around here then herpes. Yes, Klitschko was a one trick pony, a shot crappy fighter, just like Wilder. He only managed to be the best heavyweight, in other words, the best in the world, for 4382 days, longer then anybody else. What a no-talent bum..
STOP crying dude. Even Wilder was a champion for 5 years.

Klitschko was a terrible boxer.

All they had was power and size adventage.

When they faced a giant man who could box - THEY WERE IN TROUBLE.

Because they can't box at all and they are BOTH very limited.

Their limitations showed up against Tyson Fury :-)

Boxing is something more than just power and jab straight ;) ONE TRICK PONIES

Usyk schools them both too - cause he is a master boxer compare to those two one trick ponies and size bullies.
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Pretty weak trolling.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Trolling? Tell us something about boxing you "expert".


Compare Wladimir Klitschko , Deontay Wilder against Tyson Fury and Usyk.

We have got two one trick ponies with power and two punches in their whole arsenal and two complete fighters who are perfect with their movement , have much more in their arsenal and can adapt on almost any style.

One is glass jawed scared fighter (Wladimir) and second one lacks stamina for more than 5 rounds (Wilder)

Wladimir and Wilder are both ONE DIMENSIONAL- THOSE ARE FACTS

Both are terrible and limited boxers.

So you call those facts trolling?

Tell us what special was in Wilder's and Wlad's arsenal , hm? JAB GRAB STRIGHT x JAB STRAIGHT WINDMILLS - THATS ALL?

Speak for your boys. Defend them. :)

FACTS ARE FACTS :-) JAB GRAB JAB GRAB
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
Has to be. I'd hate to think that multiple people are this stupid. :OhYes:
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oogiebe wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 09:10
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
Has to be. I'd hate to think that multiple people are this stupid. :OhYes:

For speaking the facts? Wilder and Wladimir are both limited one dimensional boxers with poor boxing abilities.

Fury and Usyk are good boxers. Lennox Lewis was great. Mike Tyson was good.

Those two are just one trick ponies with 2 punches in their arsenal - This shows how this era was weak and awful untill Fury and Usyk showed up!!!
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difference is klit was at times at least highly efficient with his shitshow versus at times high quality opposition thru out his career.

wilder, on the other hand, well... don't think i gotta delve deeper into that tragicomic episode of heavyweight history.

tuff as a mofo, thick as a brick, at least the bronze bomber from down in alabama always delivered in the pre/post fight comedy sector.

you couldn't make the hilarious shite up that would come out of they guy's mouth. just couldn't help it.
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570991 wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 09:22
oogiebe wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 09:10
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:22

Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
Has to be. I'd hate to think that multiple people are this stupid. :OhYes:

For speaking the facts? Wilder and Wladimir are both limited one dimensional boxers with poor boxing abilities.

Fury and Usyk are good boxers. Lennox Lewis was great. Mike Tyson was good.

Those two are just one trick ponies with 2 punches in their arsenal - This shows how this era was weak and awful untill Fury and Usyk showed up!!!
It’s all opinion.
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I don't mind people having different opinions but I have to question the integrity of the forum if we are to basically allow people who are basically rewriting history to suit some personal agenda.

Klitschko was not a "one trick pony". He had a lot of tools in his toolbox. It's universally accepted that he was a master tactician, even if he was rather boring at times doing it.

As for Wilder, yes it's true he's limited. However, it's ignoring the fact that Wilder has fast hands. It's because of that velocity he's able to generate a lot of power in either hand. His reckless style, also, makes him a difficult assignment--- and up until the last two Fury fights he had very good conditioning, throwing haymakers for twelve rounds in the first fight.

Ingemar Johansson and Max Baer weren't good boxers but because of their punching power was able to beat a lot of skillful opponents. It's the results that should be looked at more than the flaws or limitations.

The only knock you can give Klitschko or Wilder is level of opposition faced while as title holders, but for the most part there simply was nobody around to really fight in Klitschko's case. In Wilder's case it was a combination of a weak era, poor rankings by the WBC, and bad management decisions.

It's easy to knock or discredit people when they're retired or losing. Klitschko for practically a decade didn't lose a round, and Wilder for nearly a decade was winning by knockouts.

If you are going to go on a tirade it ought to be that fights that could've been made never was, or happened too late. Some of the blame falls on the shoulders of the fighters but the vast majority of the blame falls on the shoulders of promoters and the organizations that have the belts. Unnecessary mandatories, marinating fights to the point of ridiculousness, etc.

Much as I love this sport no single match is worth more than $10-20 million dollars for the winner. The last 20 years or so has been nothing but a lazy generation of boxers who will only fight once or twice a year--- all afraid to put their records on the line, too greedy, too selfish, content to sit on their asses and hobnob with celebrities instead of being worth the money.

Maybe I'm the spoiled one, since I grew up watching guys like Duran who would fight four or five times a year--- even heavyweights when I was a kid were fighting a hell of a lot more than heavyweights now. But I don't think so. You wanted to be a superstar you had to put yourself out there. You wanted to remain a contender you had to stay busy.

People wonder why so many are watching the Paul brothers, and I guarantee some of it is because they are constantly out there promoting themselves and actually competing even if the fights are laughable. If somebody makes the commitment to put on as many fights as possible people are going to tune in.

This idea that you can't make tens of millions of dollars unless you promote fights for months and months is being refuted every time the Paul brothers compete, so it honestly makes you wonder what the hell are promoters like Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn actually doing with their time? Or for that matter Dana White?

Because if anybody can buy a promoter's license, and stage their own events, and make insane amounts of money for fighting just anybody what is the point in signing to any of these big promotions?
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Wladimir Klitschko was far more versatile and skilled than Wilder. Wilder was a bigger puncher with his right hand. Wladimir was more talented overall, and probably could've beaten Wilder more often than not because he had more tricks up his sleeve.

Wlad had better movement, a better jab, could KO guys with more than one punch, learned to strategically hold when necessary. He was a much better boxer than Wilder. Wilder's right hand is probably better than Wlad's right hand. That's about all I can give him.
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570991 wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:50
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Trolling? Tell us something about boxing you "expert".


Compare Wladimir Klitschko , Deontay Wilder against Tyson Fury and Usyk.

We have got two one trick ponies with power and two punches in their whole arsenal and two complete fighters who are perfect with their movement , have much more in their arsenal and can adapt on almost any style.

One is glass jawed scared fighter (Wladimir) and second one lacks stamina for more than 5 rounds (Wilder)

Wladimir and Wilder are both ONE DIMENSIONAL- THOSE ARE FACTS

Both are terrible and limited boxers.

So you call those facts trolling?

Tell us what special was in Wilder's and Wlad's arsenal , hm? JAB GRAB STRIGHT x JAB STRAIGHT WINDMILLS - THATS ALL?

Speak for your boys. Defend them. :)

FACTS ARE FACTS :-) JAB GRAB JAB GRAB
Life's too short to argue with idiots.
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How could I tell this thread was started and infected with numeric posters?
Just by the title. But I had to check I was right :doh:
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gilgamesh wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 12:26 Wladimir Klitschko was far more versatile and skilled than Wilder. Wilder was a bigger puncher with his right hand. Wladimir was more talented overall, and probably could've beaten Wilder more often than not because he had more tricks up his sleeve.

Wlad had better movement, a better jab, could KO guys with more than one punch, learned to strategically hold when necessary. He was a much better boxer than Wilder. Wilder's right hand is probably better than Wlad's right hand. That's about all I can give him.

Why you compare Wlad with Wilder? Both are one dimensional ponies compare to Fury , Usyk , Lennox or Vitali Klitschko?

JAB AND RIGHT HAND ITS ALL THEY HAD.

BOTH WEAK INSIDE , BOTH CAN NOT TRHOW PROPER COMBINATIONS , BOTH PACK GLASS JAWS.

YEAH someone with 1-2 is one trick pony. Wlad showed how pathetic he was against Fury. He had no idea how to box against a real man who is not some puppy midget coming for paycheck!
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570991 wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 13:09
gilgamesh wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 12:26 Wladimir Klitschko was far more versatile and skilled than Wilder. Wilder was a bigger puncher with his right hand. Wladimir was more talented overall, and probably could've beaten Wilder more often than not because he had more tricks up his sleeve.

Wlad had better movement, a better jab, could KO guys with more than one punch, learned to strategically hold when necessary. He was a much better boxer than Wilder. Wilder's right hand is probably better than Wlad's right hand. That's about all I can give him.

Why you compare Wlad with Wilder? Both are one dimensional ponies compare to Fury , Usyk , Lennox or Vitali Klitschko?

JAB AND RIGHT HAND ITS ALL THEY HAD.

BOTH WEAK INSIDE , BOTH CAN NOT TRHOW PROPER COMBINATIONS , BOTH PACK GLASS JAWS.

YEAH someone with 1-2 is one trick pony. Wlad showed how pathetic he was against Fury. He had no idea how to box against a real man who is not some puppy midget coming for paycheck!
You're giving Wilder credit by saying he had a jab. He really didn't have much of one.

Wlad's knocked out people with left hooks and uppercuts and sh*t like that. I don't recall any Wilder victory that didn't come as a result of his right hand.

And for the record I didn't compare Wlad with Wilder. You did dumbass.
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gilgamesh wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 13:40
570991 wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 13:09
gilgamesh wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 12:26 Wladimir Klitschko was far more versatile and skilled than Wilder. Wilder was a bigger puncher with his right hand. Wladimir was more talented overall, and probably could've beaten Wilder more often than not because he had more tricks up his sleeve.

Wlad had better movement, a better jab, could KO guys with more than one punch, learned to strategically hold when necessary. He was a much better boxer than Wilder. Wilder's right hand is probably better than Wlad's right hand. That's about all I can give him.

Why you compare Wlad with Wilder? Both are one dimensional ponies compare to Fury , Usyk , Lennox or Vitali Klitschko?

JAB AND RIGHT HAND ITS ALL THEY HAD.

BOTH WEAK INSIDE , BOTH CAN NOT TRHOW PROPER COMBINATIONS , BOTH PACK GLASS JAWS.

YEAH someone with 1-2 is one trick pony. Wlad showed how pathetic he was against Fury. He had no idea how to box against a real man who is not some puppy midget coming for paycheck!
You're giving Wilder credit by saying he had a jab. He really didn't have much of one.


He had a solid jab against lesser opponents. Sames goes for Klitschko who trhew hooks against bums.

Against world class elite opponents they had no idea how to use another tools and sticked to their one dimensional one trick pony game. 1-2 , 1-2 lmao.

Fury is on another LEVEL than some Klitschko or Wilder. DIFFERENT BREED OF ANIMAL

Wlad's knocked out people with left hooks and uppercuts and sh*t like that. I don't recall any Wilder victory that didn't come as a result of his right hand.

And for the record I didn't compare Wlad with Wilder. You did dumbass.
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I have to agree with everyone who said the OP is an idiot.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
Good question. I have created this thread about it, so please visit.
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Lackeos wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 03:41 I have to agree with everyone who said the OP is an idiot.
So i guess Tyson Fury is an idiot too , our lineal champ? Because he called those two "bums" one trick ponies ^^.

He mocked their skills and schooled them easy.

And he was right about their skills and limitations.

So stop cry about the facts!!!!!!!!!



ONE TRICK PONIES - 1 , 2 THATS THEIR WHOLE ARSENAL OF PUNCHES.
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Lackeos wrote: 09 Nov 2021, 03:58
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 08:11 Pretty weak trolling.
Why are there a lot of these numbered accounts recently? Same person?
Good question. I have created this thread about it, so please visit.
Thank you Lackeros :TU:
I won't waste my time replying to any of those threads.
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570991 wrote: 08 Nov 2021, 07:41 Wladimir is very lucky that he did not face KRONK Fury , because it would be a painfull night for him.

Fury is very lucky he faced the worst Wlad ever that night. Fury hit him what, three times? And Wlad hit Fury once or twice.
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