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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
...and made up shit 
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Yes, like his claim Andrade gave up his belts multiple times in order to duck other boxers.
Narcissist personality disorder: A mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance,
a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence that they are always right lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. A narcissist will never admit they are wrong, because it forces them to take responsibility, and makes them feel insecure.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Bandog wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 09:10
Yes, like his claim Andrade gave up his belts multiple times in order to duck other boxers.
Narcissist personality disorder: A mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance,
a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence that they are always right lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. A narcissist will never admit they are wrong, because it forces them to take responsibility, and makes them feel insecure.
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From his long posts saved in Word, he seems to be an attention-seeker armchair-troll with an obsessive compulsive disorder.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Son, here's your dream toyEnlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 07:09I'm after someone giving me a Bugatti Veyron. Thanx.The Gratest wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 07:06Sorry, you appear to have misunderstood me.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 07:05
An official announcement from the WBO's own website:
"Andrade ducks Korobov!"
Banner Promotions’ Artie Pelullo, the co-promoter of junior middleweight titlist Demetrius Andrade, petitioned the WBO to give Andrade the shot at Korobov for the vacant title. It is commonplace for the WBO to allow a titleholder from one division to get an immediate shot at the title in the weight class above where they hold the title.
But a funny thing happened on the way to Korobov-Andrade: Andrade’s camp rejected the fight this week, instead electing to remain at junior middleweight to defend his title, even though he has no specific date or opponent lined up just yet while Pelullo battles it out with HBO over his next bout.
I was after a link to those direct quotes you provided please buddy. Thanx.

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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021

Press Release | Murodjon Akhmadaliev vs. Jose Velasquez Set, Ronny Rios Positive For COVID
Murodjon Akhmadaliev will now defend his WBA and IBF World Super-Bantamweight titles against José Velásquez at the SNHU Arena in Manchester, New Hampshire on Friday November 19, live worldwide on DAZN, after Ronny Rios was forced to withdraw with COVID.
Akhmadaliev (9-0 7 KOs) puts the belts on the line for the second time in New Hampshire having ripped them from former ruler Daniel Roman in Miami in January 2020 and defended them with a trademark performance of equal style and spite on home turf in Tashkent, Uzbekistan in April with a fifth round stoppage over Ryosuke Iwasa.
‘MJ’ was set to meet WBA mandatory and #1 ranked Rios, but the Californian’s misfortune opens the door for a first World title shot for Velazquez (29-6-2 19 KOs). The Chilean’s career has been on the rise since inauspicious beginnings, and the 32 year old enters the bout unbeaten in his last 21 fights and has picked up a number of regional belts in that run stretching back to 2016.
Velazquez is certain to leave it all on the line on the biggest night of his career, but with Akhmadaliev eyeing unification bouts on the road to becoming the latest undisputed champion in boxing, the 27 year old is ready to end his lengthy camp with Joel Diaz in Indio, California with another eye-catching victory.
“I hope that Ronny is feeling well, it’s a shame that he cannot face me, but it is a great chance for Jose and I am sure he will put everything into this fight,” said Akhmadaliev.
“Everything has been good in camp, it’s been a long camp with a couple of fights getting cancelled, but we’ve stayed in the gym and I’m ready to defend what is mine.
“We have a new gym, and we love it, it’s our new home. The facilities are great and there’s more room and new rings. It’s always a pleasure being in camp because Joel Diaz and the team - we’re one big family.
“We joke around and mess around, but we get great work in, we have our own language in the gym with broken English, Spanish, Uzbek and Russian, all mixed up. It’s fun but that’s because we work so hard that we make sure we enjoy ourselves when the work is done. We eat, sleep and drink boxing, the discipline is second to none.”
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
He said he wanted $1.4m for the fight?
Something Quillin would have been offered at the time?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
EO, you don't know the inside stuff and the real "offers". Imo Andrade was lowballed and bluffed multiple times to just reject those simulated offers. He was/is a risky fighter on nobody's radar.
You keep bringing up your imaginary offers of Korobov, Charlo and Chenko, but you don't say nothing about BJS screwing up the fight with Andrade??!
You're just a attention-seeker troll, disingenuous and a sneaky instigator on this forum with OCD.
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You keep bringing up your imaginary offers of Korobov, Charlo and Chenko, but you don't say nothing about BJS screwing up the fight with Andrade??!
You're just a attention-seeker troll, disingenuous and a sneaky instigator on this forum with OCD.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Three very simple questions:apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 07:09 EO, you don't know the inside stuff and the real "offers". Imo Andrade was lowballed and bluffed multiple times to just reject those simulated offers. He was/is a risky fighter on nobody's radar.
You keep bringing up your imaginary offers of Korobov, Charlo and Chenko, but you don't say nothing about BJS screwing up the fight with Andrade??!
You're just a attention-seeker troll, disingenuous and a sneaky instigator on this forum with OCD.![]()
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• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
When Demetrius Andrade lobbied the WBO to challenge for their vacant world middleweight title, his career-best purse was $200K (the sum he received for the Brian Rose bout).Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 06:08
He said he wanted $1.4m for the fight?
Something Quillin would have been offered at the time?
The WBO granted his request and Boo Boo was ordered to face Matt Korobov for the vacant championship.
Andrade ducked Korobov and remained inactive for 16 months.
He was subsequently stripped of his WBO 154lbs title due to his inactivity.
Two fights later, he fought Jack Culcay for $75K.
Therefore, please explain the reason why you personally feel that Demetrius Andrade deserved to receive a $1.4m payday to face Matt Korobov?
If you didn’t wholeheartedly support Andrade’s unrealistically excessive purse demands, then why did you post the video?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
You're jumping EO.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 08:29When Demetrius Andrade lobbied the WBO to challenge for their vacant world middleweight title, his career-best purse was $200K (the sum he received for the Brian Rose bout).Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 06:08
He said he wanted $1.4m for the fight?
Something Quillin would have been offered at the time?
The WBO granted his request and Boo Boo was ordered to face Matt Korobov for the vacant championship.
Andrade ducked Korobov and remained inactive for 16 months.
He was subsequently stripped of his WBO 154lbs title due to his inactivity.
Two fights later, he fought Jack Culcay for $75K.
Therefore, please explain the reason why you personally feel that Demetrius Andrade deserved to receive a $1.4m payday to face Matt Korobov?
If you didn’t wholeheartedly support Andrade’s unrealistically excessive purse demands, then why did you post the video?
I simply posted a video of Andrade's reason, his own voice as to what happened. At no point did I say, or do I believe he deserved a $1.4m payday. Especially for a vacant belt. Andrade wasn't exactly a big name back then.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Well Andrade is right but he also have to understand that you have to take a risky fight to get your profile bigger. At 154 there were Lara and Trout- and even Canelo fought them. At 160, I don't think guys like Munguia or Eubank Jr would fight Andrade.
I think Andrade should move up at 168 and ask wbo to fight for the wbo 168 title.
I think Andrade should move up at 168 and ask wbo to fight for the wbo 168 title.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Andrade rejected the Charlo and Korobov fights.apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 09:55 Well Andrade is right but he also have to understand that you have to take a risky fight to get your profile bigger. At 154 there were Lara and Trout- and even Canelo fought them.
He earned absolutely nothing when he chose to be inactive for 16 months.
Refusing to fight also resulted in him being stripped of his WBO 154lbs title, which would have greatly devalued his commercial worth.
Shortly afterwards he ended up travelling overseas to fight Jack Culcay for $75K.
Andrade was never right to duck Charlo and Korobov.
He also agreed a three fight deal with Showtime, but renounced it when he refused to face Charlo.
So Andrade burned bridges with everyone at the PBC and hasn’t faced anyone from that stable since.
Only a complete utter moron would fail to comprehend Andrade’s terribly dire business decisions!
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
@ EO
I am still waiting for you to answer/explain your claim that Andrade vacated his belt/title multiple times in order to duck opponents.You like to dodge and divert attention by asking new or crap that has been hashed over dozens of times. You can simply say you were wrong, and/or lying.
I am still waiting for you to answer/explain your claim that Andrade vacated his belt/title multiple times in order to duck opponents.You like to dodge and divert attention by asking new or crap that has been hashed over dozens of times. You can simply say you were wrong, and/or lying.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
I have answered this question three times.Bandog wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 10:47 @ EO
I am still waiting for you to answer/explain your claim that Andrade vacated his belt/title multiple times in order to duck opponents.You like to dodge and divert attention by asking new or crap that has been hashed over dozens of times. You can simply say you were wrong, and/or lying.
I also asked you simple questions which you choose to ignore, either because you’re trolling or their answers undermine your beliefs.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Dude, are you seriously retarded? Or perhaps the narcissist I think you are. Andrade defended his belt 5 times at 154 and 4 times so far at 160. At NO time did he vacate his belts or title to duck someone like you claimed. You can look here. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 16:46Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
Now, since you dodged/diverted/spinned my simple question several times, I am done with you 100%. You are nothing other than a worthless troll. Mods must have a twisted sense of humor to keep you around. From now on, don't respond to any of my posts, and I will do the same.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Why are you lying? Can you not even read?Bandog wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:06Dude, are you seriously retarded? Or perhaps the narcissist I think you are. Andrade defended his belt 5 times at 154 and 4 times so far at 160. At NO time did he vacate his belts or title to duck someone like you claimed. You can look here. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 16:46Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
Now, since you dodged/diverted/spinned my simple question several times, I am done with you 100%. You are nothing other than a worthless troll. Mods must have a twisted sense of humor to keep you around. From now on, don't respond to any of my posts, and I will do the same.![]()
Demetrius Andrade captured the vacant WBO super welterweight title with his split decision victory over Vanes Martirosyan.
His only title defence came against Britain’s Brian Rose.
He then decided to remain inactive for 16 months and he also decided to reject the Charlo and Korobov fights.
He ignored the WBO’s warnings about being stripped of his title due to inactivity, which resulted in him needlessly losing his belt.
Andrade then travelled overseas and received an appallingly low $75K purse to capture the regular version of the WBA’s super welterweight title against Jack Culcay.
He then decided to vacate that belt without even attempting to perform a title defence.
Why do you keep lying? Why are you creatively fabricating title defences that never happened?
OK, I'd like you to educate me about Andrade's alleged five world title defences at 154lbs? Who were his opponents for those fictional bouts in the alternate universe you live in?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Bandog loves andrade - its fun to see he has a fan.
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
EO is funny troll but his OCD must be severe. He also likes to lure posters in some long boring argues.Bandog wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:06Dude, are you seriously retarded? Or perhaps the narcissist I think you are. Andrade defended his belt 5 times at 154 and 4 times so far at 160. At NO time did he vacate his belts or title to duck someone like you claimed. You can look here. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 16:46Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
Now, since you dodged/diverted/spinned my simple question several times, I am done with you 100%. You are nothing other than a worthless troll. Mods must have a twisted sense of humor to keep you around. From now on, don't respond to any of my posts, and I will do the same.![]()
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
But, but Andrade was willing to fight BJS but Billy screwed up with his nasal sprays and you keep IGNORING this FACT and bring up some lowballed-bluffed offers made to Andrade.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:52Why are you lying? Can you not even read?Bandog wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:06Dude, are you seriously retarded? Or perhaps the narcissist I think you are. Andrade defended his belt 5 times at 154 and 4 times so far at 160. At NO time did he vacate his belts or title to duck someone like you claimed. You can look here. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 16:46
Three very simple questions:
• Who did Demetrius Andrade defend his WBA 154lbs title against?
• Who did Demetrius Andrade face for the second defence of his WBO 154lbs title?
• When Demetrius Andrade’s request to challenge for the vacant WBO world middleweight championship was granted, and was subsequently informed he’d be facing the WBO’s other official title challenger, Matt Korobov, what was the outcome of that fight?
Now, since you dodged/diverted/spinned my simple question several times, I am done with you 100%. You are nothing other than a worthless troll. Mods must have a twisted sense of humor to keep you around. From now on, don't respond to any of my posts, and I will do the same.![]()
Demetrius Andrade captured the vacant WBO super welterweight title with his split decision victory over Vanes Martirosyan.
His only title defence came against Britain’s Brian Rose.
He then decided to remain inactive for 16 months and he also decided to reject the Charlo and Korobov fights.
He ignored the WBO’s warnings about being stripped of his title due to inactivity, which resulted in him needlessly losing his belt.
Andrade then travelled overseas and received an appallingly low $75K purse to capture the regular version of the WBA’s super welterweight title against Jack Culcay.
He then decided to vacate that belt without even attempting to perform a title defence.
Why do you keep lying? Why are you creatively fabricating title defences that never happened?
OK, I'd like you to educate me about Andrade's alleged five world title defences at 154lbs? Who were his opponents for those fictional bouts in the alternate universe you live in?
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Re: Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021
Nooo.. but then Andrade admitted he WASN’T actually ready to fight BJS. Even though the fight was a scheduled and as you said it was BJS’s fault the fight never happened.apollo creed wrote: ↑14 Nov 2021, 07:31But, but Andrade was willing to fight BJS but Billy screwed up with his nasal sprays and you keep IGNORING this FACT and bring up some lowballed-bluffed offers made to Andrade.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:52Why are you lying? Can you not even read?Bandog wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:06
Dude, are you seriously retarded? Or perhaps the narcissist I think you are. Andrade defended his belt 5 times at 154 and 4 times so far at 160. At NO time did he vacate his belts or title to duck someone like you claimed. You can look here. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433
Now, since you dodged/diverted/spinned my simple question several times, I am done with you 100%. You are nothing other than a worthless troll. Mods must have a twisted sense of humor to keep you around. From now on, don't respond to any of my posts, and I will do the same.![]()
Demetrius Andrade captured the vacant WBO super welterweight title with his split decision victory over Vanes Martirosyan.
His only title defence came against Britain’s Brian Rose.
He then decided to remain inactive for 16 months and he also decided to reject the Charlo and Korobov fights.
He ignored the WBO’s warnings about being stripped of his title due to inactivity, which resulted in him needlessly losing his belt.
Andrade then travelled overseas and received an appallingly low $75K purse to capture the regular version of the WBA’s super welterweight title against Jack Culcay.
He then decided to vacate that belt without even attempting to perform a title defence.
Why do you keep lying? Why are you creatively fabricating title defences that never happened?
OK, I'd like you to educate me about Andrade's alleged five world title defences at 154lbs? Who were his opponents for those fictional bouts in the alternate universe you live in?![]()
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EO must come with this FACT, please! A link is expected from EO!Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Nov 2021, 07:52Nooo.. but then Andrade admitted he WASN’T actually ready to fight BJS. Even though the fight was a scheduled and as you said it was BJS’s fault the fight never happened.apollo creed wrote: ↑14 Nov 2021, 07:31But, but Andrade was willing to fight BJS but Billy screwed up with his nasal sprays and you keep IGNORING this FACT and bring up some lowballed-bluffed offers made to Andrade.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:52
Why are you lying? Can you not even read?
Demetrius Andrade captured the vacant WBO super welterweight title with his split decision victory over Vanes Martirosyan.
His only title defence came against Britain’s Brian Rose.
He then decided to remain inactive for 16 months and he also decided to reject the Charlo and Korobov fights.
He ignored the WBO’s warnings about being stripped of his title due to inactivity, which resulted in him needlessly losing his belt.
Andrade then travelled overseas and received an appallingly low $75K purse to capture the regular version of the WBA’s super welterweight title against Jack Culcay.
He then decided to vacate that belt without even attempting to perform a title defence.
Why do you keep lying? Why are you creatively fabricating title defences that never happened?
OK, I'd like you to educate me about Andrade's alleged five world title defences at 154lbs? Who were his opponents for those fictional bouts in the alternate universe you live in?![]()