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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
I expect Crawford to stop Porter-I think it's going to be his best performance to date.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
only a few days away, sunk up fast 
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
According to VBET, Terence Crawford is 91% certain of defeating Shawn Porter (1/10), with the underdog rated by the same website as having a 16% chance of victory (26/5).
The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Crawford-Porter fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).
It could be one of those fights whereby the betting odds seem unrealistic to the point they fail to reflect the anticipated competitive nature of the bout, meaning that it might be worthwhile betting on the underdog, even if you slightly favour Crawford.
The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Crawford-Porter fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).
It could be one of those fights whereby the betting odds seem unrealistic to the point they fail to reflect the anticipated competitive nature of the bout, meaning that it might be worthwhile betting on the underdog, even if you slightly favour Crawford.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Apparently, there's no grand arrivals or a live public weigh in..
I dnuh how this helps the fight.
I dnuh how this helps the fight.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
ya im picking crawford but bet some on porter , hes no mug. i see something. dudes gonna throw down 
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Crawford vs Porter Fight Week schedule of events
Wednesday, November 17
Crawford vs. Porter final pre-fight press conference is on Wednesday, November 17. Live stream on ESPN2 and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages begins at 5 pm ET / 2 pm PT.
In attendance Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter.
Thursday, November 18
Crawford vs Porter undercard press conference is on Thursday, November 18. Live stream on ESPN APP and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages begins at 4:30 pm ET / 1:30 pm PT.
Friday, November 19
Crawford vs Porter official weigh-in ceremony is on Friday, November 19. The undercard weigh-in, including the PPV undercard bouts, begins at 4:15 pm ET / 1:15 PT live on Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages.
The main event fighters weigh-in starts at 5 pm ET / 2 pm PT live on ESPNews and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages.
Wednesday, November 17
Crawford vs. Porter final pre-fight press conference is on Wednesday, November 17. Live stream on ESPN2 and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages begins at 5 pm ET / 2 pm PT.
In attendance Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter.
Thursday, November 18
Crawford vs Porter undercard press conference is on Thursday, November 18. Live stream on ESPN APP and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages begins at 4:30 pm ET / 1:30 pm PT.
Friday, November 19
Crawford vs Porter official weigh-in ceremony is on Friday, November 19. The undercard weigh-in, including the PPV undercard bouts, begins at 4:15 pm ET / 1:15 PT live on Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages.
The main event fighters weigh-in starts at 5 pm ET / 2 pm PT live on ESPNews and Top Rank Boxing channel on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Fight Picks
Here’s how the experts see it:
THE RING MAGAZINE/RINGTV.COM
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: CRAWFORD UD
“I’m really looking forward to this one. Crawford has had an answer for everything that’s come his way as a professional but this in my opinion is the toughest test he’s had. Porter is as battle-tested as they come and will try to be rough and physical with the more naturally talented defending champion. However, while Porter will get his licks in, I see Crawford being a step ahead and managing the fight well en route to claiming a 12-round decision. I see it eight rounds to four, which translates to 116-112 for Crawford.”
LEE GROVES: CRAWFORD UD
“Is it any surprise that Porter was the PBC welterweight who was willing to “cross the street” and break the PBC/Top Rank impasse? It shouldn’t be because Porter has been an “anyone, anywhere and anytime” fighter and his immense physical strength will challenge Crawford’s acumen like no opponent has. Unfortunately for “Showtime Shawn,” Crawford is a versatile stylist with a ring IQ that is only exceeded by his mean streak and that versatility will be his key to victory. Both men will rise to the challenge the other man presents, and while Porter will once again push an elite opponent, it’ll be Crawford who will get the win on points.”
MICHAEL WOODS: CRAWFORD UD
“I’ve seen slippage in Shawn Porter, at 34 he’s not at his physical peak. Ah, but Bud Crawford is also 34, though I don’t THINK he’s maybe slipped much off his peak. But it’s hard to know, because he hasn’t fought the caliber of foes that Porter has. This means Advantage Crawford. Both will likely be at their very, very best that night, because the motivation for each will be immense. But Crawford, after campaigning for a few years now more vociferously for getting the BIG fights, kind of has to win. He will, by decision, by a 3-4 round margin. Crawford is the better technical pugilist; he scores a 12-round unanimous decision.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: CRAWFORD PTS
“Shawn Porter, to me, is the Oba Carr of this generation; a talented boxer who comes up short every time he is faced with an elite opponent. I see this fight playing out the same way as Porter’s other setbacks, with Porter setting the pace and making an exciting fight but ultimately out-finessed by the movement and greater accuracy of Terrence Crawford. This fight will go the distance, with Porter winning early rounds until Crawford begins to time and counter Porter from outside from the fourth round on. Porter’s Plan B is to do Plan A better, and that does not work against the very best in boxing… and Crawford is that!”
MICHAEL MONTERO: CRAWFORD TKO 11
“Both Crawford and Porter went pro in 2008 and both are 34 years-old. That’s about where the similarities end. I believe Porter has more miles on the odometer and it will show in the later rounds of this fight. Crawford is a little taller and longer, and he uses his length better than just about everyone in the sport right now. I expect this bout to begin slowly, with both fighters looking sluggish in the early going. Inactivity (ring rust) will be a factor. But Crawford will begin to separate himself in the middle rounds and dominate late. Bud wins via TKO11.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: CRAWFORD SD
“They’re both 34, fighters and friends who grew up in the amateurs, traveled to the same tournaments, trained in the same gyms and then worked their way up to the top of the pro game. Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter know each other like long-time neighbors engaged in the same business. It was inevitable that they would one day meet as rivals in a crossroads fight to decide who’s better. Crawford has advantages. He’s taller by an inch. His reach is longer by an inch. This fight will be decided by inches. Porter is clever. He knows how to read a foe’s habits and psychology. He knows what buttons to push. He’ll push a lot of them, all in an attempt to disrupt Crawford’s rhythm and focus. But it won’t be quite enough in a fascinating fight that will end with Crawford winning by inches.”
RON BORGES: CRAWFORD PTS
“Shawn Porter always makes for a difficult night but he has consistently come up a round or two short in his biggest moments. That is unlikely to change against Crawford. Both have been out of the ring for roughly a year so ring rust should be an equivalent problem for them, providing neither an edge in terms of activity. That said it may be a tougher night for Crawford than he expects but he wins a decision that is closer than the judges’ cards reflect.”
GARETH A DAVIES: CRAWFORD UD
“Great test for Crawford with Porter a perennial championship fighter at 147-pounds. Will be close but Crawford should retain his title by unanimous points decision.”
BOXING INSIDERS
SERGIO MORA (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“All three of Porter’s losses have all been close fights. It’s hard to prepare for a style like Porter. Switch-hitting won’t work on Porter who squares up and can fight any style. I don’t think anyone alive can easily beat him. Bud will have his hands full. Bud by close decision.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“Porter is strong and will make it messy in the first half of the fight. Once Crawford settles in and finds his range, he’ll pick Porter apart. Crawford by decision.”
CAMILLE ESTEPHAN (PROMOTER, EYE OF THE TIGER PROMOTIONS): CRAWFORD TKO
“I believe Crawford to be the most versatile boxer today, he can switch to both stances and probably has one of the best boxing IQs in the sport today. I like Porter’s jab. I think he will want to go on the inside for body work but often takes risks over committing and losing balance. If Porter wants to engage in a war, I believe Crawford will counter attack and stop him. I believe Crawford wins via a late knockout.”
KATHY DUVA (PROMOTER, MAIN EVENTS): CRAWFORD UD
“Terence Crawford all the way. I love Shawn Porter. But I don’t think that he has fought the kind of opposition in his career that would prepare him for a master like Crawford. Porter is tough and I know he will give his all. But I expect that Crawford will win a fairly safe decision.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): CRAWFORD TKO 10
“I think Porter is a good boxer, but I just think that Crawford is a great boxer. I think that Crawford has all the tools to beat Porter, I think that Porter will give him some problems, but what I love about Crawford is he is great at figuring out problems and adjusting.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER, GOLDEN BOY): CRAWFORD UD
“Not the 147 fight that we all want to see but a very good clash in the welterweight division. We know Porter and he will bring 100 percent heart; he will be in great condition and will push forward round by round. However, I believe this will also show just how good Crawford is. I see a very entertaining bout where they will each have some good moments in the first half. Going into the second half is where I see adjustments and changes being made by Terrance and that will be key, he will surprise many with inside body work against a strong inside fighter like Porter. In the end I see Crawford winning a close but unanimous decision.”
ALEX STEEDMAN (COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“Porter is a hard night for anyone, even Crawford’s main rival for top spot at 147-pounds Errol Spence had to go the full 12 but Crawford should win this, it’s a question of how. Spence, Thurman and Kell Brook decisioned Porter so Bud is looking to better exalted company but he’s a special fighter on an amazing run. It’s more than 5-years since Crawford heard the final bell so we have the irresistible force taking on the immovable object. What gives? If Crawford gets a sniff he’ll go after Porter but I fancy he may have to settle for winning by decision.”
WAYNE MCCULLOUGH (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ TRAINER): CRAWFORD TKO
“The Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter fight is an interesting match. Porter showed in his fight with Errol Spence that he still has a lot to give in this welterweight division. Crawford has stopped his last eight opponents so I’m sure he will be looking to be the first to try and stop Porter. I expect Porter to push the fight with nonstop movement and aggression and try to stay close, where he will do his best work. Crawford will probably be happy to let him come close so he can use short hooks and uppercuts on Porter.
Porter will have success early but I think Crawford will pick up close rounds early with scoring punches and then, in the second half of the fight, he’ll start to use long jabs and straight rights or lefts – depending on which stance he fights in as he likes to switch. Porter will try to get close but I believe he’ll get picked off and I think there could be a possible late stoppage win for Crawford.”
RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): CRAWFORD PTS
“Crawford is the No. 3 pound-for-pound on my list. We have a fight. Round 1, they’ll come out feeling out each other but once Crawford has timed Porter, we’re going to get a really good fight where Crawford is challenged round after round. There’s going to be some close rounds. The skills of Crawford will overcome Porter will. I believe that every round will have a few seconds of fireworks and at the end we’ll be asking for rematch because we’ll want more. In an exciting fight, because Porter loves to fight, I see Crawford winning a hard-fought decision.”
PAULIE MALIGNAGGI (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“If there’s a guy on Crawford’s record I’d be looking at in terms of how Crawford might handle Porter, it’s probably Jeff Horn. Crawford, who was a lightweight, had me thinking he might have trouble with the bigger and physical Horn but he handled him rather easily. Porter might be better than Horn but he’s also not as big. In an entertaining fight, I can see Crawford pulling away in the second half of the fight and winning a comfortable decision.”
BRANDUN LEE (JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT PROSPECT): CRAWFORD PTS
“I think it’s going to be an ugly fight. No matter who the opponent is Porter’s always makes them not look good due to his awkward style. Overall, I have Crawford winning by decision.”
RICKY HATTON (FORMER TWO-WEIGHT CHAMPION/ TRAINER): CRAWFORD
“I’m going for Crawford. He’s unbeaten, full of confidence, he stopped Kell Brook in four-rounds and Porter lost Kell. Crawford has a better KO rate so for me Crawford by points or late stoppage.
Final Tally: Crawford 20-0
Here’s how the experts see it:
THE RING MAGAZINE/RINGTV.COM
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: CRAWFORD UD
“I’m really looking forward to this one. Crawford has had an answer for everything that’s come his way as a professional but this in my opinion is the toughest test he’s had. Porter is as battle-tested as they come and will try to be rough and physical with the more naturally talented defending champion. However, while Porter will get his licks in, I see Crawford being a step ahead and managing the fight well en route to claiming a 12-round decision. I see it eight rounds to four, which translates to 116-112 for Crawford.”
LEE GROVES: CRAWFORD UD
“Is it any surprise that Porter was the PBC welterweight who was willing to “cross the street” and break the PBC/Top Rank impasse? It shouldn’t be because Porter has been an “anyone, anywhere and anytime” fighter and his immense physical strength will challenge Crawford’s acumen like no opponent has. Unfortunately for “Showtime Shawn,” Crawford is a versatile stylist with a ring IQ that is only exceeded by his mean streak and that versatility will be his key to victory. Both men will rise to the challenge the other man presents, and while Porter will once again push an elite opponent, it’ll be Crawford who will get the win on points.”
MICHAEL WOODS: CRAWFORD UD
“I’ve seen slippage in Shawn Porter, at 34 he’s not at his physical peak. Ah, but Bud Crawford is also 34, though I don’t THINK he’s maybe slipped much off his peak. But it’s hard to know, because he hasn’t fought the caliber of foes that Porter has. This means Advantage Crawford. Both will likely be at their very, very best that night, because the motivation for each will be immense. But Crawford, after campaigning for a few years now more vociferously for getting the BIG fights, kind of has to win. He will, by decision, by a 3-4 round margin. Crawford is the better technical pugilist; he scores a 12-round unanimous decision.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: CRAWFORD PTS
“Shawn Porter, to me, is the Oba Carr of this generation; a talented boxer who comes up short every time he is faced with an elite opponent. I see this fight playing out the same way as Porter’s other setbacks, with Porter setting the pace and making an exciting fight but ultimately out-finessed by the movement and greater accuracy of Terrence Crawford. This fight will go the distance, with Porter winning early rounds until Crawford begins to time and counter Porter from outside from the fourth round on. Porter’s Plan B is to do Plan A better, and that does not work against the very best in boxing… and Crawford is that!”
MICHAEL MONTERO: CRAWFORD TKO 11
“Both Crawford and Porter went pro in 2008 and both are 34 years-old. That’s about where the similarities end. I believe Porter has more miles on the odometer and it will show in the later rounds of this fight. Crawford is a little taller and longer, and he uses his length better than just about everyone in the sport right now. I expect this bout to begin slowly, with both fighters looking sluggish in the early going. Inactivity (ring rust) will be a factor. But Crawford will begin to separate himself in the middle rounds and dominate late. Bud wins via TKO11.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: CRAWFORD SD
“They’re both 34, fighters and friends who grew up in the amateurs, traveled to the same tournaments, trained in the same gyms and then worked their way up to the top of the pro game. Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter know each other like long-time neighbors engaged in the same business. It was inevitable that they would one day meet as rivals in a crossroads fight to decide who’s better. Crawford has advantages. He’s taller by an inch. His reach is longer by an inch. This fight will be decided by inches. Porter is clever. He knows how to read a foe’s habits and psychology. He knows what buttons to push. He’ll push a lot of them, all in an attempt to disrupt Crawford’s rhythm and focus. But it won’t be quite enough in a fascinating fight that will end with Crawford winning by inches.”
RON BORGES: CRAWFORD PTS
“Shawn Porter always makes for a difficult night but he has consistently come up a round or two short in his biggest moments. That is unlikely to change against Crawford. Both have been out of the ring for roughly a year so ring rust should be an equivalent problem for them, providing neither an edge in terms of activity. That said it may be a tougher night for Crawford than he expects but he wins a decision that is closer than the judges’ cards reflect.”
GARETH A DAVIES: CRAWFORD UD
“Great test for Crawford with Porter a perennial championship fighter at 147-pounds. Will be close but Crawford should retain his title by unanimous points decision.”
BOXING INSIDERS
SERGIO MORA (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“All three of Porter’s losses have all been close fights. It’s hard to prepare for a style like Porter. Switch-hitting won’t work on Porter who squares up and can fight any style. I don’t think anyone alive can easily beat him. Bud will have his hands full. Bud by close decision.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“Porter is strong and will make it messy in the first half of the fight. Once Crawford settles in and finds his range, he’ll pick Porter apart. Crawford by decision.”
CAMILLE ESTEPHAN (PROMOTER, EYE OF THE TIGER PROMOTIONS): CRAWFORD TKO
“I believe Crawford to be the most versatile boxer today, he can switch to both stances and probably has one of the best boxing IQs in the sport today. I like Porter’s jab. I think he will want to go on the inside for body work but often takes risks over committing and losing balance. If Porter wants to engage in a war, I believe Crawford will counter attack and stop him. I believe Crawford wins via a late knockout.”
KATHY DUVA (PROMOTER, MAIN EVENTS): CRAWFORD UD
“Terence Crawford all the way. I love Shawn Porter. But I don’t think that he has fought the kind of opposition in his career that would prepare him for a master like Crawford. Porter is tough and I know he will give his all. But I expect that Crawford will win a fairly safe decision.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): CRAWFORD TKO 10
“I think Porter is a good boxer, but I just think that Crawford is a great boxer. I think that Crawford has all the tools to beat Porter, I think that Porter will give him some problems, but what I love about Crawford is he is great at figuring out problems and adjusting.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER, GOLDEN BOY): CRAWFORD UD
“Not the 147 fight that we all want to see but a very good clash in the welterweight division. We know Porter and he will bring 100 percent heart; he will be in great condition and will push forward round by round. However, I believe this will also show just how good Crawford is. I see a very entertaining bout where they will each have some good moments in the first half. Going into the second half is where I see adjustments and changes being made by Terrance and that will be key, he will surprise many with inside body work against a strong inside fighter like Porter. In the end I see Crawford winning a close but unanimous decision.”
ALEX STEEDMAN (COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“Porter is a hard night for anyone, even Crawford’s main rival for top spot at 147-pounds Errol Spence had to go the full 12 but Crawford should win this, it’s a question of how. Spence, Thurman and Kell Brook decisioned Porter so Bud is looking to better exalted company but he’s a special fighter on an amazing run. It’s more than 5-years since Crawford heard the final bell so we have the irresistible force taking on the immovable object. What gives? If Crawford gets a sniff he’ll go after Porter but I fancy he may have to settle for winning by decision.”
WAYNE MCCULLOUGH (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ TRAINER): CRAWFORD TKO
“The Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter fight is an interesting match. Porter showed in his fight with Errol Spence that he still has a lot to give in this welterweight division. Crawford has stopped his last eight opponents so I’m sure he will be looking to be the first to try and stop Porter. I expect Porter to push the fight with nonstop movement and aggression and try to stay close, where he will do his best work. Crawford will probably be happy to let him come close so he can use short hooks and uppercuts on Porter.
Porter will have success early but I think Crawford will pick up close rounds early with scoring punches and then, in the second half of the fight, he’ll start to use long jabs and straight rights or lefts – depending on which stance he fights in as he likes to switch. Porter will try to get close but I believe he’ll get picked off and I think there could be a possible late stoppage win for Crawford.”
RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): CRAWFORD PTS
“Crawford is the No. 3 pound-for-pound on my list. We have a fight. Round 1, they’ll come out feeling out each other but once Crawford has timed Porter, we’re going to get a really good fight where Crawford is challenged round after round. There’s going to be some close rounds. The skills of Crawford will overcome Porter will. I believe that every round will have a few seconds of fireworks and at the end we’ll be asking for rematch because we’ll want more. In an exciting fight, because Porter loves to fight, I see Crawford winning a hard-fought decision.”
PAULIE MALIGNAGGI (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/ COMMENTATOR): CRAWFORD PTS
“If there’s a guy on Crawford’s record I’d be looking at in terms of how Crawford might handle Porter, it’s probably Jeff Horn. Crawford, who was a lightweight, had me thinking he might have trouble with the bigger and physical Horn but he handled him rather easily. Porter might be better than Horn but he’s also not as big. In an entertaining fight, I can see Crawford pulling away in the second half of the fight and winning a comfortable decision.”
BRANDUN LEE (JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT PROSPECT): CRAWFORD PTS
“I think it’s going to be an ugly fight. No matter who the opponent is Porter’s always makes them not look good due to his awkward style. Overall, I have Crawford winning by decision.”
RICKY HATTON (FORMER TWO-WEIGHT CHAMPION/ TRAINER): CRAWFORD
“I’m going for Crawford. He’s unbeaten, full of confidence, he stopped Kell Brook in four-rounds and Porter lost Kell. Crawford has a better KO rate so for me Crawford by points or late stoppage.
Final Tally: Crawford 20-0
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Perhaps I’m wrong, but 2021 appears to be the year of the upset:
• Lara-Washington
• Usyk-Joshua
• Garcia-Martin
• Ugas-Pacquiao
• Martinez-Galahad
• Baumgardner-Harper
The betting odds and the vast majority of boxing insiders/pundits are expecting Crawford to beat Porter. Perceptions are so one-sided, it seems to be regarded as a borderline mismatch.
But even though I’m favouring Bud, I think it could be a very competitive fight, to the point I feel that Porter is more than capable of scoring the upset.
Boxing predictions lately have been very weird this year, almost as if everyone is choosing to exist in an echo chamber, because people seem reluctant to go against the grain (hence the shockingly one-sided nature of most predictions we’ve recently seen).
• Lara-Washington
• Usyk-Joshua
• Garcia-Martin
• Ugas-Pacquiao
• Martinez-Galahad
• Baumgardner-Harper
The betting odds and the vast majority of boxing insiders/pundits are expecting Crawford to beat Porter. Perceptions are so one-sided, it seems to be regarded as a borderline mismatch.
But even though I’m favouring Bud, I think it could be a very competitive fight, to the point I feel that Porter is more than capable of scoring the upset.
Boxing predictions lately have been very weird this year, almost as if everyone is choosing to exist in an echo chamber, because people seem reluctant to go against the grain (hence the shockingly one-sided nature of most predictions we’ve recently seen).
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
I'm not American but it seems like ESPN aren't really pushing this much for a PPV? At least compared to what Showtime or Fox do or even ESPN with MMA?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 06:22 Apparently, there's no grand arrivals or a live public weigh in..
I dnuh how this helps the fight.
The preview show was put up by Top Rank.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Arum reckons cus it’s on the ESPN+ PPV, it’ll do UFC numbers.peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 10:18I'm not American but it seems like ESPN aren't really pushing this much for a PPV? At least compared to what Showtime or Fox do or even ESPN with MMA?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 06:22 Apparently, there's no grand arrivals or a live public weigh in..
I dnuh how this helps the fight.
The preview show was put up by Top Rank.
It won’t.
But it apparently is heavily advertised on the app. Which has millions of subs.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Has Porter ever NOT thrown down? This is a great fight. Can’t wait.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 06:38 ya im picking crawford but bet some on porter , hes no mug. i see something. dudes gonna throw down
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Usyk, Ugas, and especially Bombgardner were not surprising to me.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 09:59 Perhaps I’m wrong, but 2021 appears to be the year of the upset:
• Lara-Washington
• Usyk-Joshua
• Garcia-Martin
• Ugas-Pacquiao
• Martinez-Galahad
• Baumgardner-Harper
The betting odds and the vast majority of boxing insiders/pundits are expecting Crawford to beat Porter. Perceptions are so one-sided, it seems to be regarded as a borderline mismatch.
But even though I’m favouring Bud, I think it could be a very competitive fight, to the point I feel that Porter is more than capable of scoring the upset.
Boxing predictions lately have been very weird this year, almost as if everyone is choosing to exist in an echo chamber, because people seem reluctant to go against the grain (hence the shockingly one-sided nature of most predictions we’ve recently seen).
Porter absolutely is a VERY live dog here, but I would still be surprised if he won.
Both these two are favorites of mine.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
God, this really is a pretty pointless fight.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Every fight at this division, except Crawford-Spence, may seem pointless.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Pointless? Certainly. Fun? Most likely.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 16:38Hang on, wrong thread!
I was talking about Ortiz v Martin!
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
That is even better in some sense. Two heavies in a 50-50 bout.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 16:38Hang on, wrong thread!
I was talking about Ortiz v Martin!
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Yh considering the gravy’s hardly fight decent opponents half the time.DrDuke wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 17:16That is even better in some sense. Two heavies in a 50-50 bout.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 16:38Hang on, wrong thread!
I was talking about Ortiz v Martin!
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
I thought Spence would have an easy UD vs Porter, but he went against his trainer's game plan of boxing him. Porter had something to do with that though, so credit to him.
Remember this -Crawford is no Usyk.
Remember this -Crawford is no Usyk.
Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
Is there an undercard for this?
I keep checking the schedule and nothing so far?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353
I'm not paying for one fight that is 80-20 at best...
I keep checking the schedule and nothing so far?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353
I'm not paying for one fight that is 80-20 at best...
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021
All you had to do was ask..KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 22:10 Is there an undercard for this?
I keep checking the schedule and nothing so far?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353
I'm not paying for one fight that is 80-20 at best...
Main Card (9 pm ET | 6 pm PT | 2 am GMT | 1 pm AEDT)
WBO World Welterweight Championship
Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter
12 Round IBF Middleweight Title Eliminator
Esquiva Falcao vs. Patrice Volny
10 Round Middleweight Bout
Janibek Alimkhanuly vs. Hassan N’Dam,
8 Round Lightweight Bout
Raymond Muratalla vs. Elias Araujo
Preliminary Card (7 pm ET | 4 pm PT | 12 am GMT | 11 am AEDT)
10 Round Featherweight Bout
Isaac Dogboe vs. Christopher Diaz
8 Round Featherweight Bout
Adam Lopez vs. Adan Ochoa
Undercard (6 pm ET | 3 pm PT | 11 pm BST | 10 am AEDT)
6 Round Super Featherweight Bout
Karlos Balderas vs. Julio Cortez
4 Round Welterweight Bout
Tiger Johnson vs. Antonius Grable