Worst World Champ from our shores ever?
Worst World Champ from our shores ever?
I think I'd have Barri 'Kid Galahad' Awad overtaking Paul Butler for the top spot now
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Rezzer1967
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Re: Worst World Champ from our shores ever?
It's Alex Arthur.
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JamesPhilips
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Shannon Courtenay
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The obligatory Paul Weir thread!
To be fair there are ALOT more deserving candidate for this accolade than Galahad - lets be honest a guy who ran Warrington to a razor tight decision. For 5 and a bit rounds he looked like arguably the #1 in the division.
As much as I love him and partly not his fault, Barry Jones would be a stronger canditate. Eamonn Loughran (he was Northern Ireland wasn't he?) would probably be my non Paul Weir number 1 - particularly as this was a time when you had the likes of DLH and Trinidad as proper champions.
Brian Magee was actually a "proper" WBA champion.
Paul Silky Jones - one of the big upset wins but a domestic operator at best.
Rocky Fielding - Say no more.
Stuart Hall
Given how he disgraced the end of his career - Ola Afolabi.
Off course the other obligatory answer is Murray Sutherland, Michael Bentt (if he counts - also usually gets a mention).
Paul Butler and Alex Arthur are no where near the top.
To be fair there are ALOT more deserving candidate for this accolade than Galahad - lets be honest a guy who ran Warrington to a razor tight decision. For 5 and a bit rounds he looked like arguably the #1 in the division.
As much as I love him and partly not his fault, Barry Jones would be a stronger canditate. Eamonn Loughran (he was Northern Ireland wasn't he?) would probably be my non Paul Weir number 1 - particularly as this was a time when you had the likes of DLH and Trinidad as proper champions.
Brian Magee was actually a "proper" WBA champion.
Paul Silky Jones - one of the big upset wins but a domestic operator at best.
Rocky Fielding - Say no more.
Stuart Hall
Given how he disgraced the end of his career - Ola Afolabi.
Off course the other obligatory answer is Murray Sutherland, Michael Bentt (if he counts - also usually gets a mention).
Paul Butler and Alex Arthur are no where near the top.
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Rezzer1967
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I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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Brian Magee - exactly the same situation - Interim champion, elevated to proper champion for I think 24 hours (or something like that) and lost in his first defence.Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:47 I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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Gavin "The Rock" Rees beat M'baye when he was on valium, but I'd suggest Big Frank.
He was little more than a slow, stiff bodybuilder with a jab really.
I loved both of them and most of the other names suggested. To be World Champion - even in the multibelt era - you have to be a very good fighter indeed.
He was little more than a slow, stiff bodybuilder with a jab really.
I loved both of them and most of the other names suggested. To be World Champion - even in the multibelt era - you have to be a very good fighter indeed.
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Surely "our shores" reflects the shores of dear old Blighty, and that Ireland (the hint is in the name) has different unconnected shores?
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maverick23
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What about Robbie Regan? Decent fighter but worse than a lot of those mentioned I think.
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Women is cheating.
So far there's been about 4 women that WOULDN'T be in with a shout of 'worst ever' and Savannah is the only Brit.
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Floydendizer
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Darren Barker scraped home against Daniel Geale then lost it in first defence .
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I thought Someone would have mentioned Johnny Nelson by now
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I think Sutherland is better than most listed here. He was actually a pretty tough fighter who definitely made the most of his talents.
Nobody can doubt herbie hide’s power but who did he really beat at world level? He has a couple of names but they were well over the hill.
Nobody can doubt herbie hide’s power but who did he really beat at world level? He has a couple of names but they were well over the hill.
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Michael Bentt
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ThereByTheGrace
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Cook didn't lose it to burns. Burns beat martinez for the belt.Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:47 I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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I think Hide is a good shout - one of the best managed careers ever to be a two time world champion with his resume. He didn't even beat near the best domestically when he was British champion.orbtastic wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 17:34 I think Sutherland is better than most listed here. He was actually a pretty tough fighter who definitely made the most of his talents.
Nobody can doubt herbie hide’s power but who did he really beat at world level? He has a couple of names but they were well over the hill.
However the champion he destroyed was also British so he should always be ahead of Hide in this category.
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I did think he was worth a mention - but then the champion he beat wasn't a complete dud and he won the title fair well. He was also an interim champion when interim champions were practically considered legitimate.maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 16:27 What about Robbie Regan? Decent fighter but worse than a lot of those mentioned I think.
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Nicky Cook didn’t lose his belt to Burns.
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Do IBO, WBF, WBU and interim champs count?
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GreenLightning
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If Gavin had any decent stamina he would have been a problem for anyone, worst?? Gave Koelnik a good fight before tiring and being 4'10 at light welterweight didnt help. Gave Broner a good go but look at the size difference, Broner himsef didn't find it so easy against bigger guys eitherskanksta wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 16:17 Gavin "The Rock" Rees beat M'baye when he was on valium, but I'd suggest Big Frank.
He was little more than a slow, stiff bodybuilder with a jab really.
I loved both of them and most of the other names suggested. To be World Champion - even in the multibelt era - you have to be a very good fighter indeed.![]()
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Barry jones
How did ola afalobi disgrace himself by the way just thought he retired on his own terms after a decent career have i missed something?
How did ola afalobi disgrace himself by the way just thought he retired on his own terms after a decent career have i missed something?