Demetrius Andrade vs. Jason Quigley | DAZN - November 19, 2021

[USMCer]

Unify at 160.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[handsofstone]

I'm as bored of Andrade's career as the next man and I know he flatters to deceive but what more can he do to get a big fight, Charlo has no interest in a unification even on a PBC card, his manager even come out and said he would never deal with Andrade again after some issues years ago, disgraceful behaviour blocking your fighter from taking a fight because of your own personal beef, if anything Charlo should be demanding the fight but he seems to avoid any flak here

Golovkin was offered of fight but had his heart set on a December unification with Murata since about January, easy fight to make as well seeing as both with DAZN

Munguia another one with DAZN moved up from Super Welter as WBO champ and automatically became mandatory but refused fight and has shown no interest

As I say I understand the grief Andrade gets, especially since being at Middleweight, looks a million dollars early knocks his man down but eases off and coasts to a decision, nearly every fight at 160 has played out that way but realistically who can he fight??

[Enlightened-One]

I'm as bored of Andrade's career as the next man and I know he flatters to deceive but what more can he do to get a big fight, Charlo has no interest in a unification even on a PBC card, his manager even come out and said he would never deal with Andrade again after some issues years ago, disgraceful behaviour blocking your fighter from taking a fight because of your own personal beef, if anything Charlo should be demanding the fight but he seems to avoid any flak here

Golovkin was offered of fight but had his heart set on a December unification with Murata since about January, easy fight to make as well seeing as both with DAZN

Munguia another one with DAZN moved up from Super Welter as WBO champ and automatically became mandatory but refused fight and has shown no interest

As I say I understand the grief Andrade gets, especially since being at Middleweight, looks a million dollars early knocks his man down but eases off and coasts to a decision, nearly every fight at 160 has played out that way but realistically who can he fight??

A quick question, instead of focussing on Charlo, have you ever considered the reason Eddie Hearn refuses to pit Andrade against his fellow big-name Matchroom/DAZN stablemates?

It’s a question I keep posing that very few attempt to answer - in fact, none of Andrade's fans will do so.

People keep moaning about Charlo, without even considering the bigger picture.

[USMCer]

UNIFY THE DIVISION!

What is preventing 160 division from fighting each other???
Lets get this done instead of waiting around keeping busy.

[bobcatbox]

Andrade will slaughter Quigley right? Is there an argument to be made otherwise?

[Enlightened-One]

Andrade wins this fight, but the calibre of opposition he persistently faces in world title fights is pretty dire... and I have recently started hoping someone scores the upset.

He's on the cusp of turning 34 years of age, so I reckon it's going to happen within the next 18 months or so.

[apollo creed]

Andrade wins this fight, but the calibre of opposition he persistently faces in world title fights is pretty dire... and I have recently started hoping someone scores the upset.

He's on the cusp of turning 34 years of age, so I reckon it's going to happen within the next 18 months or so.

Tbh I also have that sneaky hope that someone upsets him. It will be Quigley ? We will see.

Anyway Mung and Eubank Jr are in line for GGG if he beats Murata.

So there are no good options for Andrade at 160. Maybe Lara ?

[handsofstone]

I'm as bored of Andrade's career as the next man and I know he flatters to deceive but what more can he do to get a big fight, Charlo has no interest in a unification even on a PBC card, his manager even come out and said he would never deal with Andrade again after some issues years ago, disgraceful behaviour blocking your fighter from taking a fight because of your own personal beef, if anything Charlo should be demanding the fight but he seems to avoid any flak here

Golovkin was offered of fight but had his heart set on a December unification with Murata since about January, easy fight to make as well seeing as both with DAZN

Munguia another one with DAZN moved up from Super Welter as WBO champ and automatically became mandatory but refused fight and has shown no interest

As I say I understand the grief Andrade gets, especially since being at Middleweight, looks a million dollars early knocks his man down but eases off and coasts to a decision, nearly every fight at 160 has played out that way but realistically who can he fight??

A quick question, instead of focussing on Charlo, have you ever considered the reason Eddie Hearn refuses to pit Andrade against his fellow big-name Matchroom/DAZN stablemates?

It’s a question I keep posing that very few attempt to answer - in fact, none of Andrade's fans will do so.

People keep moaning about Charlo, without even considering the bigger picture.

[handsofstone]

I'm as bored of Andrade's career as the next man and I know he flatters to deceive but what more can he do to get a big fight, Charlo has no interest in a unification even on a PBC card, his manager even come out and said he would never deal with Andrade again after some issues years ago, disgraceful behaviour blocking your fighter from taking a fight because of your own personal beef, if anything Charlo should be demanding the fight but he seems to avoid any flak here

Golovkin was offered of fight but had his heart set on a December unification with Murata since about January, easy fight to make as well seeing as both with DAZN

Munguia another one with DAZN moved up from Super Welter as WBO champ and automatically became mandatory but refused fight and has shown no interest

As I say I understand the grief Andrade gets, especially since being at Middleweight, looks a million dollars early knocks his man down but eases off and coasts to a decision, nearly every fight at 160 has played out that way but realistically who can he fight??

A quick question, instead of focussing on Charlo, have you ever considered the reason Eddie Hearn refuses to pit Andrade against his fellow big-name Matchroom/DAZN stablemates?

It’s a question I keep posing that very few attempt to answer - in fact, none of Andrade's fans will do so.

People keep moaning about Charlo, without even considering the bigger picture.

Charlo is a fellow Middleweight champ and I mentioned Golovkin

[Enlightened-One]

Andrade wins this fight, but the calibre of opposition he persistently faces in world title fights is pretty dire... and I have recently started hoping someone scores the upset.

He's on the cusp of turning 34 years of age, so I reckon it's going to happen within the next 18 months or so.

Tbh I also have that sneaky hope that someone upsets him. It will be Quigley ? We will see.

Anyway Mung and Eubank Jr are in line for GGG if he beats Murata.

So there are no good options for Andrade at 160. Maybe Lara ?

The interviews that Hearn and Andrade gave this week suggest they’ve resigned themselves to the fact Demetrius is unlikely to receive an opportunity to engage in a meaningful bout anytime soon.

Boo Boo even mentioned that he hasn’t got long left in the sport, because the “fountain of youth” eventually runs dry.

So I definitely agree with you, there aren’t any financially lucrative or commercially meaningful options for Andrade, but I think he’s due a mandatory title defence.

And when I look at the WBO’s rankings, their highest rated title challenger, Jaime Munguia, is facing Sergiy Derevyanchenko in a WBC final eliminator, to earn the right to challenge Jermall Charlo.

The number three rated Esquiva Falcao is engaging in an IBF eliminator to earn the right to challenge GGG.

So I’m assuming that Demetrius Andrade might be forced to face Janibek Alimkhanuly next (assuming the ten-fight novice beats Hassan N'Jikam this weekend), which I think is a very exciting prospect, despite the fact the Kazakh fighter in fairly anonymous.

Janibek Alimkhanuly’s amateur pedigree (according to the stats cited by The RING) are outrageously impressive (record 300-8; nine-time Kazakhstan national cham, two-time Asian champ; and 2013 World Championship gold medallist)!

Janibek Alimkhanuly could be the guy the finally dethrones Demetrius Andrade.

[Enlightened-One]

I'm as bored of Andrade's career as the next man and I know he flatters to deceive but what more can he do to get a big fight, Charlo has no interest in a unification even on a PBC card, his manager even come out and said he would never deal with Andrade again after some issues years ago, disgraceful behaviour blocking your fighter from taking a fight because of your own personal beef, if anything Charlo should be demanding the fight but he seems to avoid any flak here

Golovkin was offered of fight but had his heart set on a December unification with Murata since about January, easy fight to make as well seeing as both with DAZN

Munguia another one with DAZN moved up from Super Welter as WBO champ and automatically became mandatory but refused fight and has shown no interest

As I say I understand the grief Andrade gets, especially since being at Middleweight, looks a million dollars early knocks his man down but eases off and coasts to a decision, nearly every fight at 160 has played out that way but realistically who can he fight??

A quick question, instead of focussing on Charlo, have you ever considered the reason Eddie Hearn refuses to pit Andrade against his fellow big-name Matchroom/DAZN stablemates?

It’s a question I keep posing that very few attempt to answer - in fact, none of Andrade's fans will do so.

People keep moaning about Charlo, without even considering the bigger picture.

Charlo is a fellow Middleweight champ and I mentioned Golovkin

Since signing up with Matchroom, Demetrius Andrade has only fought the likes of Walter Kautondokwa, Artur Akavov, Maciej Sulecki, Luke Keeler, Liam Williams and Jason Quigley over a time period spanning more than four years.

Matchroom and Golden Boy (both are boxing content providers for DAZN) have been working with some pretty huge names at 160lbs over the years, but they haven't orchestrated any meaningful bouts for Andrade.

So in my mind, if Eddie Hearn refuses to pit Demetrius against any of the big-name fighters aligned with DAZN, then it seems silly to be frustrated about Jermall Charlo’s refusal to work with Boo Boo.

Anyway, Jermall Charlo’s trainer, Ronnie Shields, explained their beef with Demetrius:

“It goes back years before to when Andrade signed a contract to fight his brother Jermell and Andrade was champion,” said Shields during an interview with Fight Hub TV. “Andrade backed out of the fight. Once he did that, they said they’ll never give him an opportunity to make money with them, in the sport of boxing.”

In 2014, a matchup between Jermell Charlo and Andrade was thought to be signed sealed and delivered. Their contest was set to be the co-feature to Amir Khan vs. Devon Alexander at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Team Andrade was perturbed with what they believed was a low-fight offer to face Charlo.

According to Andrade’s father, Paul, his son was offered a contract of $250,000. Those numbers, however, were deemed unsatisfactory. Instead of pulling out of the fight immediately, team Andrade waited until the week of the fight to do so. Their thought process was that they wanted to give both sides more than enough time to increase the initial offer. Once team Andrade realized that more money was not coming down the pike, they opted to remove themselves from the card.

Although Charlo found a replacement opponent, he lost a then, career-high payday and the opportunity to fight for a world title. Both Jermell and Jermall have pointed to that infamous incident as the main reason why a showdown between them is unlikely to ever occur.

But while fans believe Jermall Charlo and his team should move past those issues of the past, Shields doesn’t have that same thought process. With a chance to set the record straight on what exactly happened nearly a decade ago, Shields pulled back the curtain on everything that took place behind the scenes.

“Of course everybody wants to see it but some things are unforgivable,” explained Shields. “To me, that’s one of those things. You denied his brother an opportunity to fight for a world title, for no reason. Well, the reasoning was, he left his promoter and went to Jay-Z. Jay-Z didn’t like the fight and told him not to take it so he didn’t take it. That’s something he has to live with for the rest of his life.”

Andrade also burned bridges with the PBC when he rejected many opportunities they threw his way (i.e. Demetrius rejected a multi-fight contract with Showtime and also rejected bouts against the following fighters: Jermell Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Matt Korobov and Erislandy Lara).

[apollo creed]

Andrade wins this fight, but the calibre of opposition he persistently faces in world title fights is pretty dire... and I have recently started hoping someone scores the upset.

He's on the cusp of turning 34 years of age, so I reckon it's going to happen within the next 18 months or so.

Tbh I also have that sneaky hope that someone upsets him. It will be Quigley ? We will see.

Anyway Mung and Eubank Jr are in line for GGG if he beats Murata.

So there are no good options for Andrade at 160. Maybe Lara ?

The interviews that Hearn and Andrade gave this week suggest they’ve resigned themselves to the fact Demetrius is unlikely to receive an opportunity to engage in a meaningful bout anytime soon.

Boo Boo even mentioned that he hasn’t got long left in the sport, because the “fountain of youth” eventually runs dry.

So I definitely agree with you, there aren’t any financially lucrative or commercially meaningful options for Andrade, but I think he’s due a mandatory title defence.

And when I look at the WBO’s rankings, their highest rated title challenger, Jaime Munguia, is facing Sergiy Derevyanchenko in a WBC final eliminator, to earn the right to challenge Jermall Charlo.

The number three rated Esquiva Falcao is engaging in an IBF eliminator to earn the right to challenge GGG.

So I’m assuming that Demetrius Andrade might be forced to face Janibek Alimkhanuly next (assuming the ten-fight novice beats Hassan N'Jikam this weekend), which I think is a very exciting prospect, despite the fact the Kazakh fighter in fairly anonymous.

Janibek Alimkhanuly’s amateur pedigree (according to the stats cited by The RING) are outrageously impressive (record 300-8; nine-time Kazakhstan national cham, two-time Asian champ; and 2013 World Championship gold medallist)!

Janibek Alimkhanuly could be the guy the finally dethrones Demetrius Andrade.

I don't know what they re waiting for but if Andrade wants to make some noise he should challenge Benavidez at 168 or at c/w and also keep his strap at mw. If things would go wrong for Andrade with Benavidez, then he'd still have a title at mw. But if he'd defeat Benavidez then he'd get Canelo's attention.

Also Andrade is a big dude too. It's crazy how big framed fighters like Charlo and Andrade still make 160.

[Enlightened-One]

Tbh I also have that sneaky hope that someone upsets him. It will be Quigley ? We will see.

Anyway Mung and Eubank Jr are in line for GGG if he beats Murata.

So there are no good options for Andrade at 160. Maybe Lara ?

The interviews that Hearn and Andrade gave this week suggest they’ve resigned themselves to the fact Demetrius is unlikely to receive an opportunity to engage in a meaningful bout anytime soon.

Boo Boo even mentioned that he hasn’t got long left in the sport, because the “fountain of youth” eventually runs dry.

So I definitely agree with you, there aren’t any financially lucrative or commercially meaningful options for Andrade, but I think he’s due a mandatory title defence.

And when I look at the WBO’s rankings, their highest rated title challenger, Jaime Munguia, is facing Sergiy Derevyanchenko in a WBC final eliminator, to earn the right to challenge Jermall Charlo.

The number three rated Esquiva Falcao is engaging in an IBF eliminator to earn the right to challenge GGG.

So I’m assuming that Demetrius Andrade might be forced to face Janibek Alimkhanuly next (assuming the ten-fight novice beats Hassan N'Jikam this weekend), which I think is a very exciting prospect, despite the fact the Kazakh fighter in fairly anonymous.

Janibek Alimkhanuly’s amateur pedigree (according to the stats cited by The RING) are outrageously impressive (record 300-8; nine-time Kazakhstan national cham, two-time Asian champ; and 2013 World Championship gold medallist)!

Janibek Alimkhanuly could be the guy the finally dethrones Demetrius Andrade.

I don't know what they re waiting for but if Andrade wants to make some noise he should challenge Benavidez at 168 or at c/w and also keep his strap at mw. If things would go wrong for Andrade with Benavidez, then he'd still have a title at mw. But if he'd defeat Benavidez then he'd get Canelo's attention.

Also Andrade is a big dude too. It's crazy how big framed fighters like Charlo and Andrade still make 160.

A bout between Benavidez and Andrade is an excellent idea!

Both fighters are hyped-up, but regularly face poor opposition.

So the winner of that fight could realistically justify the praise that’s been prematurely bestowed on them and would have finally earned the right to engage in a well-deserved meaningful bout.

[apollo creed]

The interviews that Hearn and Andrade gave this week suggest they’ve resigned themselves to the fact Demetrius is unlikely to receive an opportunity to engage in a meaningful bout anytime soon.

Boo Boo even mentioned that he hasn’t got long left in the sport, because the “fountain of youth” eventually runs dry.

So I definitely agree with you, there aren’t any financially lucrative or commercially meaningful options for Andrade, but I think he’s due a mandatory title defence.

And when I look at the WBO’s rankings, their highest rated title challenger, Jaime Munguia, is facing Sergiy Derevyanchenko in a WBC final eliminator, to earn the right to challenge Jermall Charlo.

The number three rated Esquiva Falcao is engaging in an IBF eliminator to earn the right to challenge GGG.

So I’m assuming that Demetrius Andrade might be forced to face Janibek Alimkhanuly next (assuming the ten-fight novice beats Hassan N'Jikam this weekend), which I think is a very exciting prospect, despite the fact the Kazakh fighter in fairly anonymous.

Janibek Alimkhanuly’s amateur pedigree (according to the stats cited by The RING) are outrageously impressive (record 300-8; nine-time Kazakhstan national cham, two-time Asian champ; and 2013 World Championship gold medallist)!

Janibek Alimkhanuly could be the guy the finally dethrones Demetrius Andrade.

I don't know what they re waiting for but if Andrade wants to make some noise he should challenge Benavidez at 168 or at c/w and also keep his strap at mw. If things would go wrong for Andrade with Benavidez, then he'd still have a title at mw. But if he'd defeat Benavidez then he'd get Canelo's attention.

Also Andrade is a big dude too. It's crazy how big framed fighters like Charlo and Andrade still make 160.

A bout between Benavidez and Andrade is an excellent idea!

Both fighters are hyped-up, but regularly face poor opposition.

So the winner of that fight could realistically justify the praise that’s been prematurely bestowed on them and would have finally earned the right to engage in a well-deserved meaningful bout.

Yeah, it'd be good if Hearn would make Benavidez a good offer to fight Andrade at 168 or at 165lbs. I think Benavidez would not refuse it.
Also Benavidez should call out Andrade too.

After seeing that Canelo is aiming for challenging fights I don't think guys with poor resumes and profile like Bena and Andrade should coasting and wait for Canelo's call.

Maybe Canelo would want to fight Usyk or Fury in the future.

[peter barlow]

Not sure why Andy Lee ain't over? But Wayne McCullough ain't a bad replacement

[Bandog]

I don't know what they re waiting for but if Andrade wants to make some noise he should challenge Benavidez at 168 or at c/w and also keep his strap at mw. If things would go wrong for Andrade with Benavidez, then he'd still have a title at mw. But if he'd defeat Benavidez then he'd get Canelo's attention.

Also Andrade is a big dude too. It's crazy how big framed fighters like Charlo and Andrade still make 160.

A bout between Benavidez and Andrade is an excellent idea!

Both fighters are hyped-up, but regularly face poor opposition.

So the winner of that fight could realistically justify the praise that’s been prematurely bestowed on them and would have finally earned the right to engage in a well-deserved meaningful bout.

Yeah, it'd be good if Hearn would make Benavidez a good offer to fight Andrade at 168 or at 165lbs. I think Benavidez would not refuse it.
Also Benavidez should call out Andrade too.

After seeing that Canelo is aiming for challenging fights I don't think guys with poor resumes and profile like Bena and Andrade should coasting and wait for Canelo's call.

Maybe Canelo would want to fight Usyk or Fury in the future.

Yup. 190 catch weight.

[Bandog]

I honestly wish Benevidez would call out Andrade, but until Andrade moves up, it's lame to do that. I'd love to see that fight though!

Mall Charlo calling out Benevidez at 160 is totally pathetic, knowing Benevidez has to drain to make 168. Fight at your weight, move up, move down, STFU. Benevidez may be the best guy at 168 and 175, who knows? Only 23-24. I can see why Canelo doesn't want to fight him.

[margaret thatcher]

benavidez should show some ambition and fight someone for once, its laughable when these guys fight nothing but cans and then moan that they arent getting their fair due

[brilo33]

benavidez v c smith should of happened

[apollo creed]

I honestly wish Benevidez would call out Andrade, but until Andrade moves up, it's lame to do that. I'd love to see that fight though!

Mall Charlo calling out Benevidez at 160 is totally pathetic, knowing Benevidez has to drain to make 168. Fight at your weight, move up, move down, STFU. Benevidez may be the best guy at 168 and 175, who knows? Only 23-24. I can see why Canelo doesn't want to fight him.

Both fighters are saying they are avoided, so if Benavidez would call out Andrade even at a C/W of 165, it would be a good fight. Benavidez still has some fat on his body. He's not shredded.

Benavidez24, Joe Smith Jr32 and Bivol30 are young fighters. They still have that freshness. These are the top fights for Canelo

Charlo is just waiting Canelo's call at 168.

[DrDuke]

I don't remember, when I watched a full Andrade's fight for the last time, except this one, if I have ever done that actually.