Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 Nov 2021, 05:34

Crawford - Decision
40
57%
Crawford - T/KO
15
21%
DRAW
1
1%
Porter - T/KO
5
7%
Porter - Decision
9
13%
 
Total votes: 70

oogiebe
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:26
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:23
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:15 I slightly favour Crawford, but I’ve received some excessively tempting betting odds compelling me to place a bet on Porter scoring a TKO from round 9 onwards.
Somehow I've heard this story before.
Yes. And I won some money on the Usyk-Joshua bout.

I also told the forum my plans before executing them.

Porter isn’t just an underdog, he’s a massive underdog.

In my mind, this is a 55-45 type bout where I favour Crawford.

But the betting odds are outrageously in Crawford’s favour.

What are your thoughts? Am I doing something you feel is entirely unreasonable, to the point I deserve to be ridiculed, or can you show empathy with my mindset?
Ridiculed? No. I just see this as foreshadowing.

I think Craw wins handily. 55-45 is too close odds for me. More like 70-30.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:55
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:26
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:23

Somehow I've heard this story before.
Yes. And I won some money on the Usyk-Joshua bout.

I also told the forum my plans before executing them.

Porter isn’t just an underdog, he’s a massive underdog.

In my mind, this is a 55-45 type bout where I favour Crawford.

But the betting odds are outrageously in Crawford’s favour.

What are your thoughts? Am I doing something you feel is entirely unreasonable, to the point I deserve to be ridiculed, or can you show empathy with my mindset?
Ridiculed? No. I just see this as foreshadowing.

I think Craw wins handily. 55-45 is too close odds for me. More like 70-30.
Hey Oogs, did you see McKean fight?
I would have thought you all over a new HW prospect to peruse? :maybe:
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:35
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:55
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:26
Yes. And I won some money on the Usyk-Joshua bout.

I also told the forum my plans before executing them.

Porter isn’t just an underdog, he’s a massive underdog.

In my mind, this is a 55-45 type bout where I favour Crawford.

But the betting odds are outrageously in Crawford’s favour.

What are your thoughts? Am I doing something you feel is entirely unreasonable, to the point I deserve to be ridiculed, or can you show empathy with my mindset?
Ridiculed? No. I just see this as foreshadowing.

I think Craw wins handily. 55-45 is too close odds for me. More like 70-30.
Hey Oogs, did you see McKean fight?
I would have thought you all over a new HW prospect to peruse? :maybe:
Demsey? Nah, he doesn't do it for me. Heard he was unimpressive though. Isn't he like 31 or something?
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:37
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:35
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:55
Ridiculed? No. I just see this as foreshadowing.

I think Craw wins handily. 55-45 is too close odds for me. More like 70-30.
Hey Oogs, did you see McKean fight?
I would have thought you all over a new HW prospect to peruse? :maybe:
Demsey? Nah, he doesn't do it for me. Heard he was unimpressive though. Isn't he like 31 or something?
Yep. A bit old, but long career in kickboxing so he can move. His opponent wasn't showing anything either. Eddie's picked him up, dunno who he is going to feed him to. 20-0 looks impressive enough for AJ's comeback fight after he loses the rematch to Uysk :lol:
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:40
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:37
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:35

Hey Oogs, did you see McKean fight?
I would have thought you all over a new HW prospect to peruse? :maybe:
Demsey? Nah, he doesn't do it for me. Heard he was unimpressive though. Isn't he like 31 or something?
Yep. A bit old, but long career in kickboxing so he can move. His opponent wasn't showing anything either. Eddie's picked him up, dunno who he is going to feed him to. 20-0 looks impressive enough for AJ's comeback fight after he loses the rematch to Uysk :lol:
Ouch! yeah I agree. He seems a buildup to a ko by a top 10 guy or fringe contender.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:42
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:40
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:37
Demsey? Nah, he doesn't do it for me. Heard he was unimpressive though. Isn't he like 31 or something?
Yep. A bit old, but long career in kickboxing so he can move. His opponent wasn't showing anything either. Eddie's picked him up, dunno who he is going to feed him to. 20-0 looks impressive enough for AJ's comeback fight after he loses the rematch to Uysk :lol:
Ouch! yeah I agree. He seems a buildup to a ko by a top 10 guy or fringe contender.
He is defiantly being groomed for somthing, I really dont rate him and i just dont think you would sign him without a plan. If i'm matchroom my plan is to put him in with Babic, Close fight, but babic should win i think, then you get babic a good IBF ranking (and some respect), Then you do an IBF elliminator Babic vs Hrgovic...
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:57
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:42
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:40
Yep. A bit old, but long career in kickboxing so he can move. His opponent wasn't showing anything either. Eddie's picked him up, dunno who he is going to feed him to. 20-0 looks impressive enough for AJ's comeback fight after he loses the rematch to Uysk :lol:
Ouch! yeah I agree. He seems a buildup to a ko by a top 10 guy or fringe contender.
He is defiantly being groomed for somthing, I really dont rate him and i just dont think you would sign him without a plan. If i'm matchroom my plan is to put him in with Babic, Close fight, but babic should win i think, then you get babic a good IBF ranking (and some respect), Then you do an IBF elliminator Babic vs Hrgovic...
Still think the 20-0 is for bigger things than that. Eddie playing the long game, doesn't have many male champs left.
I don't think there is an upwards plan for Babic. He makes money doing what he is doing. Keeping his O and knocking guys of a certain level out. Casuals love him, and I don't mind a bit of entertainment either.
I think McKean out points the cabbage. He can move.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 21:03
gregregegg wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:57
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:42

Ouch! yeah I agree. He seems a buildup to a ko by a top 10 guy or fringe contender.
He is defiantly being groomed for somthing, I really dont rate him and i just dont think you would sign him without a plan. If i'm matchroom my plan is to put him in with Babic, Close fight, but babic should win i think, then you get babic a good IBF ranking (and some respect), Then you do an IBF elliminator Babic vs Hrgovic...
Still think the 20-0 is for bigger things than that. Eddie playing the long game, doesn't have many male champs left.
I don't think there is an upwards plan for Babic. He makes money doing what he is doing. Keeping his O and knocking guys of a certain level out. Casuals love him, and I don't mind a bit of entertainment either.
I think McKean out points the cabbage. He can move.
Eddie still has hrgovic dosent he? I think mckean has been signed for his IBF ranking, hearn will likely try an elliminator with mckean and hrgovic.... I just personaly think putting the babic fight in the middle would be better. I dont think you can build mckean for a higher levle than that. He wont beat the guys you need to beat to be built higher than what he is. guess he Might try use him to headline some Dazn expantion shows. Aus, or NZ, or even china vs zhang?
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 21:20
KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 21:03
gregregegg wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 20:57

He is defiantly being groomed for somthing, I really dont rate him and i just dont think you would sign him without a plan. If i'm matchroom my plan is to put him in with Babic, Close fight, but babic should win i think, then you get babic a good IBF ranking (and some respect), Then you do an IBF elliminator Babic vs Hrgovic...
Still think the 20-0 is for bigger things than that. Eddie playing the long game, doesn't have many male champs left.
I don't think there is an upwards plan for Babic. He makes money doing what he is doing. Keeping his O and knocking guys of a certain level out. Casuals love him, and I don't mind a bit of entertainment either.
I think McKean out points the cabbage. He can move.
Eddie still has hrgovic dosent he? I think mckean has been signed for his IBF ranking, hearn will likely try an elliminator with mckean and hrgovic.... I just personaly think putting the babic fight in the middle would be better. I dont think you can build mckean for a higher levle than that. He wont beat the guys you need to beat to be built higher than what he is. guess he Might try use him to headline some Dazn expantion shows. Aus, or NZ, or even china vs zhang?
He's being groomed for a fall against someone much closer to a title shot than Babic.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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May the fighter with the best resume win. 😂
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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That's how a guru of boxing deals with Porter, not like different spences.
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